Alligatorjandro
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Could this be like Heavenly Sword?
Technical wonder, not much content?
Technical wonder, not much content?
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The Order 1886 Review Thread
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There are varying degrees of failure. But they're all failures. There are fewer potential degrees for success, because usually you either met your specific goal, or you failed, and failure can have a large variety of causes.
And I'd argue that it's a QB's responsibility to have at least a average % complete. If the average is 60 and he falls 40% short of that he'll likely be fired.
Interfectum
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DarkLordMalik
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I remember you were so hyped for the game. Great GIF
I love this post's length.
There are varying degrees of failure. But they're all failures.
And I'd argue that it's a QB's responsibility to have at least a average % complete. If the average is 60 and he falls 40% short of that he'll likely be fired.
Eli Manning just called, he wants you to be his agent. =)
There are varying degrees of failure. But they're all failures.
And I'd argue that it's a QB's responsibility to have at least a average % complete. If the average is 60 and he falls 40% short of that he'll likely be fired.
So we are now comparing The Order to Ryan Tannehill?
True, sadly the community isn't growing up about it. Instead it's becoming more and more childish. Like when you have a gaming journalism site posting shit like that. Wow. That speaks volumes about how fucked up things are.
Joke post? Are you talking about the non-existent 70 meta critic shit-info that got shot down? Even if there was a threshold, I guess Sony *could* release it, it would be their own policy to bend.
-MD-
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Can a game that had a frame rate that frequently slowed to a crawl be considered a technical wonder?
It's not often that a GAF post makes me laugh really hard but congratulations to you. That gif was too perfect
I'll admit it, I don't get it. Is it just because there's so many cutscenes that you don't actually need a controller and you can just sit back? Or just the image filter that makes it look cinematic?
If that's it, it's a pretty weak joke.
Guess I don't agree. I don't understand why reviewers have to be some shining beacon of humanity.
Lovely
I always try and keep a level head during HYPE lolWell, it is something technical that makes you wonder.
CarbonFire
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This thread is incredible. Simply incredible.
It's too bad RAD couldn't properly capitalize on that awesome setting. With scores this bad, it seems like an Order sequel might not be in the cards. Bummer.
It's too bad RAD couldn't properly capitalize on that awesome setting. With scores this bad, it seems like an Order sequel might not be in the cards. Bummer.
Mr. Giggles
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Wow, I don't think Ive ever seen a review thread blow up like this!
Lots of people seem really happy that the game is not getting good scores :/
Lots of people seem really happy that the game is not getting good scores :/
*bows*
The_Darkest_Red
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Ha, The Order wishes. Tannehill was 5th in the NFL last season in completion percentage, bud.
bananafactory
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Killzone got an amazing sequel despite sitting only a few points higher than The Order on MC.
I don't think a sequel could be ruled out just yet.
LoveCake
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Seems like the only hype train to be a passenger on is the Nintendo one.
This is gold
They don't have to be. But when they're acting like children like everyone else- then it's hard to take them serious. I mean it's already becoming harder and harder to take the gaming community seriously as it is.
Don't give me the bullshit: "It's just video games," it's a freaking multi-billion dollar industry. Not some niche fan hobby.
Bigbillybeef
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You are really hard to get a read on.
You seem to write intelligently so I guess your just joking? If people like visuals SO much that they are willing to sacrifice even gameplay then perhaps they should just watch a movie. GAMES! it's in the name. No game is expected to be all things to all people, but it better damn well be a game.
I'm all for pushing the boundaries of what we expect from games, but it strikes me as a monumental waste of resources and talent to sacrifice everything important to a game just to make it look pretty.
anexanhume
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Pre-order numbers were good and it's still doing ok on Amazon. If it sells well, that should be enough to warrant a sequel. Then we'll get to see how RAD responds to the criticisms. I certainly would expect a vastly tuned experience.
Firedemon2370
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In the event that anyone from RAD is reading...I think you forgot the "game" part of your "video game". Well, if anyone at your company has any brains at all, you'll know to just quit.
Captain Tuttle
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Who's celebrating the reviews?
I see some people who are happy that reviewers are doing their job.
bananafactory
Banned
The fuck is this.
If it still manages half decent sales, they could bring people back by developing a much more meaty sequel (the engine is done after all), and perhaps offer this game as a digital pack-in for those who skipped out on it.
SkylineRKR
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For 2007 , HS had some amazing visuals going on at times.
Most people will remember this first shot from chapter 2. Nice cinematic experience, bad gameplay. However, we've progressed nearly 10 years. People want more meat. A shallow one way ticket like the Order is going to be slaughtered nowadays. I think The Order has better gameplay than HS though.
Amentallica
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As I said earlier, if these games are being assigned numerical values, which people place heavy reliance on with regard to their purchasing habits, then it should make sense.
Reviewers using a rating system should lay out what they emphasize as most important and least important. If there are four categories, for example, that a reviewer considers most important and as qualifiers in a final score, then these categories should each be assigned their own values to demonstrate how they're valued.
With that said, it's clear many of these reviewers lament how the game plays or its lack of interactivity (or so they say). Therefore, consider the following example:
On a scale from 1 - 10
Gameplay (40%): 6 (or 24/40)
Visuals (20%): 10 (or 10/10)
Sound (25%): 8 (or 20/25)
Story (15%): 5 (or 7.5/15)
Final Score: 61.5
If I was informed that this was the rationale behind the rating systems for some reviewers, it would make more sense to me since clearly certain aspects of a game are considered more important to them than others (as with gameplay above, for the sake of an example). If not, then get rid of scoring entirely. This would help those who only look at scores understand the differences between their own values and a reviewer's values and adjust for themselves based on what is more important (gameplay, visuals, sound, story, or whatever other category one can mention).
Edit: Using an adjusted version of the above example to match my own criteria, it would look something like this:
On a scale from 1 - 10
Gameplay (25%): 6 (or 15/25)
Visuals (20%): 10 (or 20/20)
Sound (30%): 8 (or 24/30)
Story (25%): 5 (or 12.5/25)
Final Score: 71.5
Reviewers using a rating system should lay out what they emphasize as most important and least important. If there are four categories, for example, that a reviewer considers most important and as qualifiers in a final score, then these categories should each be assigned their own values to demonstrate how they're valued.
With that said, it's clear many of these reviewers lament how the game plays or its lack of interactivity (or so they say). Therefore, consider the following example:
On a scale from 1 - 10
Gameplay (40%): 6 (or 24/40)
Visuals (20%): 10 (or 10/10)
Sound (25%): 8 (or 20/25)
Story (15%): 5 (or 7.5/15)
Final Score: 61.5
If I was informed that this was the rationale behind the rating systems for some reviewers, it would make more sense to me since clearly certain aspects of a game are considered more important to them than others (as with gameplay above, for the sake of an example). If not, then get rid of scoring entirely. This would help those who only look at scores understand the differences between their own values and a reviewer's values and adjust for themselves based on what is more important (gameplay, visuals, sound, story, or whatever other category one can mention).
Edit: Using an adjusted version of the above example to match my own criteria, it would look something like this:
On a scale from 1 - 10
Gameplay (25%): 6 (or 15/25)
Visuals (20%): 10 (or 20/20)
Sound (30%): 8 (or 24/30)
Story (25%): 5 (or 12.5/25)
Final Score: 71.5
Alligatorjandro
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The graphics were good at least so there's that
Interfectum
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Really dude... really?
Maybe he's building a character?
However, I don't disagree with the visual merits of a game being totally dismissed part, be that serious or not. Some people may want to play a game just to enjoy the graphics. And I may even be one of them.
Mr. Giggles
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Well, certainly a lot of "I told you so" in the earlier pages
MegaSackman
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This made me sad. It's a great post.
That's way too harsh, they have obviously talented folk over there at RAD they just need to focus on other area's as much as they did visuals for this game and they'll be golden.
gifs are the greatest thing ever
Same goes for liking something, it seems.
Well, because they're professional. But also because they (Kotaku) usually write weepy stories about how a studio closed, some developers got fired, look they're human! And then to do a 180 and say "ha, you shit on their crappy game" sucks.
Hahah
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Maybe. I mean, I'm skeptical of this game myself. I want to like it because I like the whole concept, but something about its trailers always struck me as stilted. I guess I hope my opinion will fall in line with some of the higher reviews (and there's honestly more of them than you'd ever guess by the narrative in this thread). I don't think this game had that high of a budget btw. compared to today's AAA releases. It had probably a small fraction of a budget allocated to AC:U or Destiny, and I also think that even looking at it as 'just TPS' on current consoles there's not much of that right now. Other than obvious TLOU:R I can't think of anything, actually.
I'm sure they presented this as a TPS game first and foremost when it was a greenlight time, but I also think they knew all along that's not the sole thing they wanted to make. Admittedly, I may be talking out of my butt here as I haven't really seen that much of the game, much less played it - but I think there's a heavy focus on slow burn moments and story exposition in this game.
Always-honest
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This is so disrespectful and foolish imo.
jim-jam bongs
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NFL is a multi-billion dollar industry where the press just spent weeks making jokes about a player's balls.
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