No Democratic primary/caucus is winner take allPropagandhim said:I thought SC was on winner-take all.
npm0925 said:On MSNBC, Pat Buchannan said that Bill Clinton said, "So what. Jesse Jackson won SC, too." Any more on this?
Joe said:Amy Holmes....
Incognito said:Dems are proportional.
grandjedi6 said:No Democratic primary/caucus is winner take all
Kittonwy said:Oh this is going to be FUN, when teh Clintons strike back, it's going to get SO DIRTY from now on.:lol
harSon said:There is a rather large difference between Jesse Jackson winning the state as the only 'different' candidate and Obama winning in a land slide vs a Clinton who is also female.
grandjedi6 said:No Democratic primary/caucus is winner take all
Ripclawe said:Now over the next week, count how many whisper campaigns about the black candidate who brought out the black voters. A big blowout win can hurt him.
quadriplegicjon said:yup. which is why analysts are thinking that this wont be over after super tuesday.
StoOgE said:i like bill, but my opinion is dropping like a rock. jesse jackson is a great american and has helped the clintons, why minamize the first black primary winner?
Ripclawe said:Now over the next week, count how many whisper campaigns about the black candidate who brought out the black voters. A big blowout win can hurt him.
harSon said:They've been attempting to to minimize the impact of black voters. Between this, their comments on Martin Luther King, and their full force slime campaign aimed at Obama they're not going to have much of a black vote if they continue on this path.
Not sure how much money he has, but doing a national campaign could be pretty expensive.sp0rsk said:So does Edwards drop out now?
sp0rsk said:So does Edwards drop out now?
The South Carolina Democratic primary has been a bitter, hard-fought contest with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama taking jabs at each other in Monday's televised debate. In the exit polls, we asked voters in this primary if the candidates were attacking each other unfairly. Fifty-six percent of those voting so far think Obama attacked Clinton unfairly, and while that is a high number, more people thought Clinton unfairly attacked Obama -- 70%.
The Clintons have been accused of playing the race card in this contest. We do see some potential fallout for the Clintons in the African-American community: 74% of African-American voters think that Clinton unfairly attacked Obama. But when we look at the same question among white voters, a comparable number thought Clinton unfairly attacked Obama -- 68%.
sp0rsk said:So does Edwards drop out now?
sp0rsk said:So does Edwards drop out now?
sp0rsk said:So does Edwards drop out now?
harSon said:They've been attempting to to minimize the impact of black voters. Between this, their comments on Martin Luther King, and their full force slime campaign aimed at Obama they're not going to have much of a black vote if they continue on this path.
sp0rsk said:So does Edwards drop out now?
RubxQub said:Not sure how much money he has, but doing a national campaign could be pretty expensive.
Best case scenario is that he drops and endorses Obama.
Worst case scenario is that he stays in and keeps white men from voting for Hilary.
perfectchaos007 said:Yay Barack! Too bad this may be one of the last states he wins but its a good last boost of momentum. He should win Georgia and Alabama though.
grandjedi6 said:Edwards dropping would be the worst case scenario for Obama. Edwards MUST stay in for Obama to win, since Edwards competes with Hillary for voter base
SRG01 said:Who?
.thekad said:White women over the age of 30?
Larry Sabato said:What of John Edwards? It is evident to all that he will not be the Democratic nominee for President. Really, how could the Democrats, the party of diversity, nominate a white male when the other major candidates were a woman, an African-American, and a Hispanic? After South Carolina, the state of his birth, Edwards will have three choices: (1) Stay in through the primaries, collect delegates under the party's proportional rules, and hope that the Clinton/Obama split is so close that his delegates can make Edwards the kingmaker, with a payoff of the post of Attorney General or another vice-presidential nomination; (2) Drop out before or after February 5th, and endorse one of the candidates (surely Obama, given what Edwards has said during the campaign); or (3) Drop out and save his nod for later. Option three is the least likely, since Edwards will quickly become irrelevant. If the second option is chosen, can Edwards actually steer his delegates and voters to Obama? Will Edwards campaign enthusiastically for Obama to enable the transfer? Should Edwards truly prefer Obama, Edwards may conclude that the first option helps both Obama and himself the most. Many of Edwards' white, blue-collar supporters may be more inclined to choose the white female over the black male in a one-on-one match-up, no matter what Edwards says or does for Obama. Splitting the white vote may be Edwards' real favor to Obama
grandjedi6 said:.
Obama supporters don't want Edwards to leave the race. Even when Richardson left, Hillary got his voter base
StoOgE said:no, he wants to stay in it so he can force himself to be the veep. if his delegates can be the difference, he is the veep.
perfectchaos007 said:CNN projects Clinton gets second!
I'm happy because I'm hoping Edwards drops out now because we know most of his supporters would go to Obama.
perfectchaos007 said:CNN projects Clinton gets second!
I'm happy because I'm hoping Edwards drops out now because we know most of his supporters would go to Obama.
perfectchaos007 said:CNN projects Clinton gets second!
I'm happy because I'm hoping Edwards drops out now because we know most of his supporters would go to Obama.
There goes the black vote for Hillary. Now she will need Obama as VP if she wins the nomination, meaning that she will have tone down her attacks against him.Incognito said:Would people PLEASE STOP REPEATING THIS CANARD???
And, yeah, it looks like Bill Clinton did say the Jesse Jackson line. Disgusting.
Domino Theory said:I don't know if this is the right thread, but since all you politicans are in here right now, I think I'll settle for in here.
California's primary is coming up soon and I'm a new voter (right when I turned 18 in July 07, I registered to vote). Is there anything I need to take when I go to vote?
if you're white, no. if you're a minority, bring every form of ID you can.Domino Theory said:I don't know if this is the right thread, but since all you politicans are in here right now, I think I'll settle for in here.
California's primary is coming up soon and I'm a new voter (right when I turned 18 in July 07, I registered to vote). Is there anything I need to take when I go to vote?
harSon said:I'd imagine they're going to shift their focus to Edwards, playing dirty with Obama is rather difficult for obvious reasons and may have hurt them in a big way even if they get the nomination.