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The Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix Official Thread
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diffusionx
Gold Member
Sinatar said:
It doesn't matter how many people are "tournament level", that's how the game is played at this moment. I mean, if I wanted to go play StarCraft online I know what to expect, its a bunch of people that have been playing the game for years using the newest tactics and I have a lot of catching up to do if I want to compete.
I'm not quite sure why SSF2T or any other game has to cater to "everyone". Especially an old game, in an online environment. The "trial by fire" against players much much better than you used to be a common ritual in online games. Now it's a bad thing, an FPS has to give you some ultra powerful weapon right off the bat (see CoD4) or people will cry. People will cry if a game is like Quake and has a powerful weapon that can be locked down through map knowledge. On and on.
Yesterday I was playing against an old friend and he beat me I think 28 out of 30 times in HDR. That's how it goes.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Kinda lttp with this I guess.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Some of the tick throw patterns are so easy to execute that they ARE "some ultra powerful weapon" given "right off the bat" in lower level play. In lower level play if you're not using it against someone who is, you're at a big disadvantage. The ultimate conclusion here is two players spamming the same pattern against each other the whole match. People have a right to complain when something that is very easy to do is hard to counter. It's there, and it's not going to magically be changed, but I don't have to like it. You're being obtuse if you think the game is sold as only catering only to the experts or people that have the time to put in to become very good.diffusionx said:
For the record I've only fought 2 people online who I thought were cheap. 1 of them was far inferior to me when not allowed to use a single tick throw pattern over and over.
How to get out of throw setups
Sirlin's beginner tutorial for throw softens and mashing out of holds
NKI's tutorial for reversing tick command throws
That's all you need to know
Sirlin's beginner tutorial for throw softens and mashing out of holds
NKI's tutorial for reversing tick command throws
That's all you need to know
Okay, i'm close to either quitting playing, or buying that 40 dollar ripoff SFIV pad. I was playing on expert on classic mode and had to face T Hawk at least 10 times, mostly because I couldn't do a damn shoryuken.
Anyone know where I can find character changes from SF2 turbo to Super, and changes from Super to Super Turbo? From my memory of SF2 turbo (15 years ago!), it seems like some of Ryu's shit got nerfed. His crouching roundhouse seems to have a slightly longer recover, and his dragon punch doesn't seem as invincible. Vega did a standing claw and it outprioritied my reversal jab dragon!
Anyone know where I can find character changes from SF2 turbo to Super, and changes from Super to Super Turbo? From my memory of SF2 turbo (15 years ago!), it seems like some of Ryu's shit got nerfed. His crouching roundhouse seems to have a slightly longer recover, and his dragon punch doesn't seem as invincible. Vega did a standing claw and it outprioritied my reversal jab dragon!
UC1 said:How to get out of throw setups
Sirlin's beginner tutorial for throw softens and mashing out of holds
NKI's tutorial for reversing tick command throws
That's all you need to know
I like the tick guide. Hmm... how can I pull out of a tick with a character like Chun Li or Vega?
Relix said:
If it's a command grab, then you still need a reversal. Chun's got up kicks and Vega has the flip kick. You can do a reversal off any special or super, but those are probably the best for those characters. If they jump at you to set up a tick command throw, you have to anti-air, otherwise there's no way to charge those moves. So if they safe-jump, they can lock her down.
I already beat it on the hardest. Some of the guys took forever, especially because I can't get my dragon punches and supers off when I need to. I tried it because I heard it was harder and the expert hardest in hd remix wasn't very difficult. I didn't think the hardest difficulty in classic was much harder than what I remember of 8 star difficulty in turbo for the sega genesis.UC1 said:
Are supers easier to execute on an arcade stick? I have a feeling even on a good dpad I couldn't combo into super on command.
Well if you don't believe me because of my opinion on throws or whatever, that's fine. I know it was classic because i couldn't get ryu's original costume. I've already beaten it in hard mode in remix with few losses. Some of the characters in classic took me 10-15 tries to beat (fucking t hawk, cammy[my first opponent] and vega). Discounting those two each character probably took me an average of 3 maybe 4 times to beat. The only reason I bothered with classic is that it was so hard and Ryu was unchanged in remix other than the fake fireball, so it is good practice with basically the same character.
Timedog said:
Fair enough man I'll take your word for it. You must be pretty good if you managed to do all that, just seems really weird that you'd complain about throws if you are that good tho :lol
Kadey said:
I don't use honda, but something worth trying is doing the flying butt when Guile does a sonic boom, the butt should win. That should make him scared of doing booms, and if you're lucky he'll make a mistake with a whiffed flash kick, if that happens, headbutt, and if you're up close, ochio. Then you can pressure him with meaty low jab > ochio and force him to do a reversal, or (when he's knocked down) safe jump in splash, tick ochio, he shouldn't be able to get out of that.
just finished beating it on classic expert again just to make sure I didn't accidentally pick the wrong difficulty level. Anyone else notice some weirdness during crossups sometimes? Like you have to block in teh wrong direction or your character sometimes will do a move in the wrong direction, even if the move was started after the opponent had already switched side? This happened in hyper fighting I remember, but it was completely predictable every time it would happen. When I was fighting bison there was some weird cross up action going on and I was blocking in the correct direction because I was on the left side of him and blocking left, but he still hit me. I think my sprite was facing as if I was on the right side of him though. I can't seem to get a handle on when this crossup weirdness will occur, and i invariably get hit when it happens.
I'm not talking about the normal crossups where you need to block in the opposite direction.
I'm not talking about the normal crossups where you need to block in the opposite direction.
I'm so in love with this game since beginning to play it online
There's not much that's more satisfying than playing with 'Rog and being on your shred of health against a shoto, he then sends a fireball thinking "lol chip damage win" only to have you time your super such that you go through the fireball and clobber him:lol
I can't believe I was a shoto player for all those years, charge characters are so much fun.
There's not much that's more satisfying than playing with 'Rog and being on your shred of health against a shoto, he then sends a fireball thinking "lol chip damage win" only to have you time your super such that you go through the fireball and clobber him:lol
I can't believe I was a shoto player for all those years, charge characters are so much fun.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
UC1 said:How to get out of throw setups
Sirlin's beginner tutorial for throw softens and mashing out of holds
NKI's tutorial for reversing tick command throws
That's all you need to know
Really, it's almost common sense in a way--you can feel that you can special out of stuff like 'Gief's tick (which always makes Hawk/'Gief an epic battle). The biggest hurdle for new players is pulling it off quickly enough and identifying when tick set-ups are beginning.
Geezer said:
I'm all about grapplers now or people that mix-in some command holds. Hugo, 'Gief, Hawk, Alex and of course, Makoto.
SwitchBladeKneegrow
Banned
Was practicing with my arcade stick tonight, and got REALLY fed up with the shoto fireball spammers. So I loaded up E-Honda and turned on the TURBO. I made 3 akumas, and 2 ryus quit out!:lol
Revenge felt gooooood.
Revenge felt gooooood.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
Am I the only one who doesn't think this game measures up to the original Super Turbo? I just got the 100 win achievement (along with another 150 or so on my ps3 before it broke) and I won't be playing it for a long time now. I don't like the look (the graphics aren't bad but they're more suited for and alpha game rather then the SF II look) and the OC remix music just isn't as good as the original (I set it to original music after about ten matches). Some of the re-balances are kinda cool and others are just meh. This game didn't really need any re-balancing to begin with. Sure it has it's issues but it's still one of the more balanced Street Fighter games. Why don't they re-balance a game that needs it like Third Strike (yeah I know because re-drawing that game would be a nightmare) or Alpha 3? The world may never know.
In short, whenever I'm playing this game all I can think is "Why don't I just play the original on GGPO". Am I the only one that feels this way?
In short, whenever I'm playing this game all I can think is "Why don't I just play the original on GGPO". Am I the only one that feels this way?
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Yeah, I'm having a hell of a time reversing Zangief and T Hawk ticks with Cammy. I can beat Akumas until the sun goes down and not feel particularly frustrated, but I always seem to have trouble with Giefs and Hawks. I can just never get the cannon spike motion out quickly enough.
'course, part of this probably has to do with the fact that I'm too poor to invest in a stick.
'course, part of this probably has to do with the fact that I'm too poor to invest in a stick.
gutter_trash
Banned
i'm gonna go an play my last matches of HDR now
migration to SF4 tomorrow,
anyone on my list, hit me up
migration to SF4 tomorrow,
anyone on my list, hit me up
SwitchBladeKneegrow
Banned
Relix said:
I was stomping the shit out of shotos all night with honda, I love this fucking arcade stick!
I made 5 Akuma players quit out and several kens and ryus, so funny. Finally got my 100 wins achievement as well. I've got an even win/loss ratio again, before I got the arcade stick I was at around 40 wins/80 losses!
polyh3dron
Banned
Who's up for a PS3 tournament?
gutter_trash
Banned
arstal said:
IMO, Evo should just go with good old ST
HDR is too fucked up IMO
polyh3dron
Banned
is anyone else getting a shitload of dropped connections on PSN with this game? I hope SF4 isn't like this or I'll have to get my VSHG dual modded.
MobiusPigeon
Banned
the rantings bug is fixed! woohoo! (360 vers.)
Antdogg355
Member
MobiusPigeon said:
Huh? I just played a good 30 matches and I am still at 0 rating.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Ferrio said:
This won't die. It's better than SFIV.
There are a lot less Akumas than I thought there'd be tonight (360), but it's late so that might be why.
Finally improved my win loss ratio to the point where I have a winning record. God moving from that shitty pad to a stick has made life so much better.
edit: nevermind five straight akumas. beat 4 out of 5 but fuck. D:
Finally improved my win loss ratio to the point where I have a winning record. God moving from that shitty pad to a stick has made life so much better.
edit: nevermind five straight akumas. beat 4 out of 5 but fuck. D:
MobiusPigeon
Banned
Eggo said:
i was up to 14th on the weekly then fought another 0 rank and it took me back down. first i've seen anything other than 0 in months. maybe its working its way thru the system
Rhazer Fusion
Member
polyh3dron said:
I got alot of them a few nights ago and had to restart my system. It did resolve the issue temporarily. The dropped connections started again after a few matches. Then I went into the practice mode and the screen wouldn't load past the vs screen. The background was still moving though and this happened about 3 times. Very strange.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
duffey said:
I hate facing Akuma, even when I beat him. He's annoying as fuck and his ridiculous juggles don't belong in Super Turbo.
