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The XNA Indie Games Official Thread
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Digital Limit
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yyr said:
It's really unfortunate how ugly so many of these games are.
An art-bump can make a decent, simple game great.
PhlivoSong
Member
Christ, some of these games look great.
Help me understand this. Is it a rule that if your game is over 50mb you are not allowed to charge $2.50 or does MS take a bigger chunk if it's over 50mb and you are saying you need to sell it for more to compensate for that? Of course, neither could also be the answer... then you can just fill in the blank with the correct answer.
yyr said:
Help me understand this. Is it a rule that if your game is over 50mb you are not allowed to charge $2.50 or does MS take a bigger chunk if it's over 50mb and you are saying you need to sell it for more to compensate for that? Of course, neither could also be the answer... then you can just fill in the blank with the correct answer.
Psychotext
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http://creators.xna.com/en-GB/faq#anchor_1_15PhlivoSong said:
I ended up finishing Being last night.
It's roughly 4 levels long, completable in about half an hour to an hour. As an incredibly simple platformer I had fun with it. I just wish it wasn't so ugly. I've no idea if getting all the coins does anything (I got 14 / 16).
200 Points for an hour's not so bad.
Lines seems to be the only game currently that has some variant of online leaderboards. The game will give you a password to put through onto their website:
http://www.edngames.com/
And you'll show up on there.
It's roughly 4 levels long, completable in about half an hour to an hour. As an incredibly simple platformer I had fun with it. I just wish it wasn't so ugly. I've no idea if getting all the coins does anything (I got 14 / 16).
200 Points for an hour's not so bad.
Lines seems to be the only game currently that has some variant of online leaderboards. The game will give you a password to put through onto their website:
http://www.edngames.com/
And you'll show up on there.
Psychotext
Member
I can't speak for how expensive the iPhone etc stuff is... but yeah, anything like this will rely on either sorting through the crap or going on recommendations.Flunkie said:
On that note... Alien Ambush, don't bother.
Metalic Sand
who is Emo-Beas?
They should really let the Devs decide the trial limit. With acheivements not being in these and no leaderboards with such a high price on some i see a good %75 or more of these never getting anywhere. I love the community games though but the way there doing the trials/cost really puts me off.
Also where the hell is JellyCar!?!?!? love that game.
Also where the hell is JellyCar!?!?!? love that game.
Psychotext
Member
Oh... and hopefully we'll see the re-appearance of Shuggy at some point. I played this back when it was a Dream Build Play competitor and fell in love with it.
PIMPBYBLUD
Member
Somebody needs to do a Rez like game. Woulds gladly pay 400+ MSP for that
Gowans007 said:
If you complete a course, or after playing Survival mode, you'll receive a 16-digit code (numbers and A-F, it's not that bad). Bring it to www.snake360.com and put it in the Ranking area. Your score will be ranked among everyone else's. There will be separate boards for all modes, courses and difficulties, over 50 in all. It should be ready by the end of the week.
PhlivoSong said:
If a game is over 50mb, the game creator cannot select the $2.50 price point.
AlphaTwo00
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This. I am trying all the games now, and most of it I can't see myself paying more than 100 points.Flunkie said:
When Graphics isn't your strong point, your gameplay better be up to the task to take the slack. Of the few that I've tried, DUOTrix, Endless Swarm, Lines are decent time killers. Drift is cool for like 3 minutes, but even as the creators said, this isn't a game, and there really isn't much to it. So why would I even pay 400 points?
But most of the attempts at 3D games are by far the worst. Fuel Depot 360 and Head Banger both put me to sleep before the 4 minute timer went up.
Clearly as of right now, in this early stage, it's simply a market of unknown titles working by themselves on a simple project - see what they can do, and see how well it turns out.
It's also a matter on just how much time a creator puts into a project before they're bored with it. As previously mentioned, I used to run Sonic Fan Games HQ, where many MANY people would release demos of their little Click & Create or Multimedia Fusion title. Do you know how many people actually FINISHED a game? Very few of them, and that's with very simple tools and a ton of graphic libraries available to them.
Shit takes time, and these guys want results NOW. It's a horrible process but it's what we're dealing with here.
But look at what's being worked on right now: Hurricane X and Battle Tennis look great for 3D titles. They have actual art and design in them. Again, we're getting bombarded because people want to be in there at launch.
It's also a matter on just how much time a creator puts into a project before they're bored with it. As previously mentioned, I used to run Sonic Fan Games HQ, where many MANY people would release demos of their little Click & Create or Multimedia Fusion title. Do you know how many people actually FINISHED a game? Very few of them, and that's with very simple tools and a ton of graphic libraries available to them.
Shit takes time, and these guys want results NOW. It's a horrible process but it's what we're dealing with here.
But look at what's being worked on right now: Hurricane X and Battle Tennis look great for 3D titles. They have actual art and design in them. Again, we're getting bombarded because people want to be in there at launch.
roosters93
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Rlan said:
Digital Limit
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homez99 said:
A game's basic origins don't have to directly correlate to its future iterations.
I'd be all over this game if it just wasn't so unappealing to my eyes. :\
Yeah I would agree with a couple of things here.
I think XNA's closest relation is the iTunes App store where Free - $5 dollars seems to be the sweet spot for people to bite. I can't see anyone (especially outside the niche) paying more for some of these titles so far. Hope they bring things down to this.
I'm sure more polished items will be up and well worth the 800 points - $10 (mainly things like all the small developed self published PC stuff).
No online leaderboards at the mo blows, its a big pull to me for these smaller games.
And the enforced 4 min trial time over the top of each games trial modes is a bit too much also.
Blow looks interesting will check it out before work.
I think XNA's closest relation is the iTunes App store where Free - $5 dollars seems to be the sweet spot for people to bite. I can't see anyone (especially outside the niche) paying more for some of these titles so far. Hope they bring things down to this.
I'm sure more polished items will be up and well worth the 800 points - $10 (mainly things like all the small developed self published PC stuff).
No online leaderboards at the mo blows, its a big pull to me for these smaller games.
And the enforced 4 min trial time over the top of each games trial modes is a bit too much also.
Blow looks interesting will check it out before work.
Well Blow is pretty damn good, its basically lemmings with bubbles and fans in a charming little fantasy forest setting.
Might purchase but that god damn 4min trial didn't let me past the tutorial!!!!
Colosseum is the first 800 pointer up? its a 3D Area beat em up with Two Human style controls, looks great visually and very polished with a character creator etc but its far far too slow. Felt like I was playing on 1/2 the speed mode. If they could bump it up to x2 if should be so much better.
Artoon is also up and excellent from what the timer would let me play. The art and sound are great it really makes an impact. Your a little blob guy and you bounce on a grid platforms to colour them in and then reach an exit. Its a little puzzly and platformy and the levels all have different music and graphical filters.
New Releases
Artoon - 400 points
Colosseum - 800 points
Totem- 400 points
Might purchase but that god damn 4min trial didn't let me past the tutorial!!!!
Colosseum is the first 800 pointer up? its a 3D Area beat em up with Two Human style controls, looks great visually and very polished with a character creator etc but its far far too slow. Felt like I was playing on 1/2 the speed mode. If they could bump it up to x2 if should be so much better.
Artoon is also up and excellent from what the timer would let me play. The art and sound are great it really makes an impact. Your a little blob guy and you bounce on a grid platforms to colour them in and then reach an exit. Its a little puzzly and platformy and the levels all have different music and graphical filters.
New Releases
Artoon - 400 points
XNA Profile Page
Colosseum - 800 points
XNA Profile Page
Totem- 400 points
XNA Profile Page
some of these games look really awful, then some... like Blow, Artoon, Colosseum etc, look so polished its quite amazing, 800p tho? are they kidding themselves? these games should be 100, 200, or 400 max, cant wait to give them ago, however, as said already in this thread...
WHERE IS JELLY CAR!
WHERE IS JELLY CAR!
acm2000 said:
Yeah there are reaching a little, defo not goign to fly for a lot of the stuff and definatly not with the expanded audience they get.
I would say take out the size = atleast this much option and give choices of
- Free
- 50
- 100
- 200
- 400
- 600
- 800
The smaller amounts might even help with some people blowing there change.
acm2000 said:
on the iTunes app store for free.
I cant wait to see what happens when everyone has them available on Wednesday.
TheGreatDave
Banned
I enjoyed my brief time with Artoon. I may buy it. It's simple but very pretty.
Our little attempt at a puzzler for XNA.
It's a little way off yet, but it's keeping us busy in the down time...
It's a little way off yet, but it's keeping us busy in the down time...
nofi said:Our little attempt at a puzzler for XNA.
It's a little way off yet, but it's keeping us busy in the down time...
nice nofi, I like the clean, spacey look, very attractive, hope its just as nice in motion, sure you will make sure it plays well.
Hope you go for the online option too.
You been checking out whats going on in the XNA stuff at tho mo?
Whats your thoughts on it and the implementation?
Gowans007 said:
I'm not doing the coding, that's not my thing.
It'll move like silky stuff, that's for sure. We're still messing with the scope (less balls per row, a random mode etc) and then once we're set we'll push to get the game done ASAP. To be honest, it's more of a taster to get our toes in the water and see if this is a viable route.
XNA, as far as I'm told, is pretty cool. We're definitely going for multiplayer, hopefully online, yeah, although that's harder to test.
nofi said:I'm not doing the coding, that's not my thing.
It'll move like silky stuff, that's for sure. We're still messing with the scope (less balls per row, a random mode etc) and then once we're set we'll push to get the game done ASAP. To be honest, it's more of a taster to get our toes in the water and see if this is a viable route.
XNA, as far as I'm told, is pretty cool. We're definitely going for multiplayer, hopefully online, yeah, although that's harder to test.
Good stuff, yeah silky smooth or consistent frame rates can really stand out compared to some of the community games I have seen.
I'm looking forward to seeing some interviews with the XNA developers on what they think of the service and how it performs for us and them.
I have an idea and could put it together but its a big time investment for me and one thing I don't have a lot of.
Kafel said:
They can chop and change the prices like the iTunes store?
Hmm dunno if thats a good thing.
Wonder what data you get for your sales if you publish on XNA.
- Trials downloaded?
- Games Purchased?
- How the other games and price points perform?
its good but 200 was fair I thought, 400 maybe too much, Price if definatly gonna be a dificult one here for a lot of people, I'm guessing a lot of discussion will come from it and I hope they are set to react quickly.
AlphaTwo00
Member
Damn. One of the better games at 200 points. At 400, I'm hesitating.Kafel said:
Culture seems to have gone down now too.
XNA Preview: What You'll Be Playing On Day 1, Part 1
http://www.gamerbytes.com/2008/11/xna_preview_what_youll_be_play.php#more
How To Play Community Games When They're Not In Your Region
http://www.gamerbytes.com/2008/11/how_to_play_community_games_wh.php
XNA Preview: What You'll Be Playing On Day 1, Part 1
http://www.gamerbytes.com/2008/11/xna_preview_what_youll_be_play.php#more
How To Play Community Games When They're Not In Your Region
http://www.gamerbytes.com/2008/11/how_to_play_community_games_wh.php
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Damn, stuff goes up on here so quickly. There seems to be like 5 new games every single day.
If a game's gone down, it's probably because the author made one or more changes and wants to resubmit it. I saw that Brain Party in peer review last night...it must be the new version.
Stuff going into peer review now should still make it up to the Marketplace by Wednesday.
Digital Limit, Snake360 looks a whole lot better in motion than it does on YouTube. Once the game is up, grab the trial...I can't guarantee that you'll find it attractive, but it'll look a lot better.
Stuff going into peer review now should still make it up to the Marketplace by Wednesday.
Digital Limit, Snake360 looks a whole lot better in motion than it does on YouTube. Once the game is up, grab the trial...I can't guarantee that you'll find it attractive, but it'll look a lot better.
Galax-e-mail Is Up:
"Galax-e-mail has you delivering e-mails by controlling a squad of spaceships battling its way through galaxies of increasing difficulty. You have powerups, multiple weapons and multiple ship types at your disposal. There will be explosions. There will be fast-paced battles between flocks of fighters. Join the fray and deliver some e-mail!"
"Galax-e-mail has you delivering e-mails by controlling a squad of spaceships battling its way through galaxies of increasing difficulty. You have powerups, multiple weapons and multiple ship types at your disposal. There will be explosions. There will be fast-paced battles between flocks of fighters. Join the fray and deliver some e-mail!"
Rlan said:
Games are free to implement their own trial mode, but requires custom development. The timed trial is "out of the box" meaning that the developer doesn't have to do anything to get it to work - they can simply enable it with a checkbox and it'll automatically have a timed trial mode. That's why you're seeing most games with this type of trial.
5 Things You Didn't Know About Community Games
http://www.gamerbytes.com/2008/11/things_you_dont_know_about_xna.php
http://www.gamerbytes.com/2008/11/things_you_dont_know_about_xna.php
Spider_Jerusalem
Member
That's Dishwasher: Dead Samurai, and that's coming out complete as an XBLA game, not part of the Community Games initiative.
From the quick look I had at Galax-e-mail it's actually quite a bit of fun. Simple, clean 2D graphics which actually look quite nice. It knows exactly what it is and has a bit of fun with itself.
Very soon two more games will pop up:
SMASHELL (400 Points)
"Smashell is a score game with platform-like gameplay. Reach the highest score by taking advantage of several bonuses and upgrades, collecting coins and eating fruits, making combos and more!"
Video here
and In The Pit (400 Points)
"An "audio-only" stealth action game. Control a horrible monster who lives at the bottom of a dark pit and eats the people who fall in!"
Video Here.
From the quick look I had at Galax-e-mail it's actually quite a bit of fun. Simple, clean 2D graphics which actually look quite nice. It knows exactly what it is and has a bit of fun with itself.
Very soon two more games will pop up:
SMASHELL (400 Points)
"Smashell is a score game with platform-like gameplay. Reach the highest score by taking advantage of several bonuses and upgrades, collecting coins and eating fruits, making combos and more!"
Video here
and In The Pit (400 Points)
"An "audio-only" stealth action game. Control a horrible monster who lives at the bottom of a dark pit and eats the people who fall in!"
Video Here.
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