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[PaulExcellent]

No, junior.

Don't do that.

To make it a better response: No. Nintendo's eShop has worked very well for some developers. Some games have even sold more on Nintendo's hardware than on the other consoles. It shows that Nintendo has a pretty decent market for indie/small games.

 

[Metalmurphy]

people, stop this, your not funny and its already been said twice already on the 1st page and only a few posts away from eachother.

It's not funny cause it's true? (or close to it)

A spike that big means the sales were pretty insignificant before.

 

[Tybolt]

(proving Tybolt wrong)

WELL THEN. Maybe I was thinking of WiiWare sales? I have no source to immediately link but I thought that was a huge issue for several developers, at least.

 

[zroid]

So 8027 people bought it?

I'll be honest. I laughed.

 

[Tripon]

Will those updates come to PC version?

The update is the PC version. This just allows the Wii U version to be the same as the pc version.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

WELL THEN. Maybe I was thinking of WiiWare sales? I have no source to immediately link but I thought that was a huge issue for several developers, at least.

WiiWare, sure. Only a handful of devs did well on the platform.

 

[foxuzamaki]

It's not funny cause it's true? (or close to it)

A spike that big means the sales were pretty insignificant before.

8027% does not equal 8027 sales exactly

 

[gngf123]

I'm assuming this is the case. Aren't Nintendo's digital sales for indies usually nonexistent under normal circumstances?

Okay this is a 3DS game (Gunman Clive) and not a WiiU game, but indies can do very well on Nintendo systems.

 

[zroid]

What's the old pice / new price on this?

$15 -> $9

 

[Prince Vultan]

Seems a bit meaningless without numbers tbh.

 

[cacildo]

Where would you get this idea?

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=45521866&postcount=52

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...reams_director_pleased_with_early_wii_u_sales

I think its pretty nice that Eshop smaller games can do well. The reaction on miiverse usually already gives me the impression the games are selling. And people get to know about other games on the miiverse.

I just want the "indie devs" to move on to 3d games. You dont need the best graphics, you dont need the bigger world, you just need to make a good game and put a decent price to it. We will buy it on the eshop for sure.

I bet a decent, innovative FPS multiplayer only on the Eshop could sell a lot.

 

[Flamfas]

So 8027 people bought it?

It's a percent. If you were going for the witty "one person bought it before", you'd say that 80.27 people bought it now ; )

 

[Lonely1]

So 8027 people bought it?

That's still a decent number, I would think.

 

[Metalmurphy]

8027% does not equal 8027 sales exactly

I didn't say it did.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

It's not funny cause it's true? (or close to it)

A spike that big means the sales were pretty insignificant before.

Again, prove it. Why would Two Tribes announce three more games if their title was bombing? The only evidence we have in support of your argument are some statements from John Harker, who's opinion means fuck all.

 

[hawk2025]

I just came in here to say that Toki Tori 2 was one of the most inventive, creative, and fun puzzle games I've played in a long, long time. I beat it when it came out on the Wii U and was incredibly impressed by the charm and design of it.

 

[Portugeezer]

It's pretty lame when % is used as a bullet point for news.

8000%+ of what?

Yep, that's the point. 8000% sounds more impressive than... 1000 sales or whatever.

 

[Riki]

That's still a decent number, I would think.

(If it was really that number) It would be phenomenal for just a day of sales.

Again, prove it. Why would Two Tribes announce three more games if their title was bombing? The only evidence we have in support of your argument are some statements from John Harker, who's opinion means fuck all.

His statement means quite a bit. However, his statement was in relation to a specific developer (Ubisoft) who had not seen good sales for their games on eShop.
This is about small developers with far cheaper games, who likely are selling more units than any retail games.

 

[Lonely1]

(If it was really that number) It would be phenomenal for just a day of sales.

Yep, that's the point. 8000% sounds more impressive than... 1000 sales or whatever.

I don't know how the calculated that percentage, but is hard to get fractional numbers of sales I would think.

 

[PaulExcellent]

It's not funny cause it's true? (or close to it)

A spike that big means the sales were pretty insignificant before.

How do you know it's true?
That seems like quite an assumption.

Toki Tori 2 is a really neat game that works well with Nintendo's eShop market. If I had a WiiU, I would purchase it again, just because of how fun it is. I believe this game will sell rather well throughout the WiiU's lifetime.

 

[Javier]

Does anyone remember how many people rated the game on the eShop before the sale? It should tell us the minimum number of downloads the game got.

 

[foxuzamaki]

I didn't say it did.

then what was the point of your comment, it isnt true, they were making a joke, obvious, unfunny joke.

 

[Kazuma Kiryu]

I figured the OP would have learned from the WiiU/Pikmin 3 thread, guess not.

 

[Metalmurphy]

Again, prove it. Why would Two Tribes announce three more games if their title was bombing? The only evidence we have in support of your argument are some statements from John Harker, who's opinion means fuck all.

I don't need to prove simple statistics and common sense. You learn that in high school. You just don't get a spike like that if your sales aren't low, you just don't.

then what was the point of your comment, it isnt true, they were making a joke, obvious, unfunny joke.

My point is that the 8027% is kinda meaningless/missleading, and I'm pretty sure that was everyone point too. You don't actually believe they meant literally that it only sold ~80 copies did you?

 

[KillerTravis]

What's wrong with some of you people? The devs are seemingly happy that their game is doing well, what's the point of shitting up a thread like this? Nintendo is not stealing your indies lol

 

[Colonel Mustard]

His statement means quite a bit. However, his statement was in relation to a specific developer (Ubisoft) who had not seen good sales for their games on eShop.
This is about small developers with far cheaper games, who likely are selling more units than any retail games.

Which is exactly what I'm getting at. Using Ubisoft as a barometer, he was alluding that no developer (indie or not) could find success on the eShop. Which is shit.

 

[Nosgoroth]

It's too late for this, the math part of my brain is already asleep, but I feel the impulse to do this anyway.

Assumption: 8027% is not a random number meaning "a lot".

So, no number lower than 100 yields an integer when multiplied by 81.27*, and that means that the number of previous sales must be a multiple of 100, which is, uh, well, 0.01 probable, but okay. Therefore, sales must be a multiple of 8127. What am I doing wrong.

* A 8027% increase means (x + 80.27x), which is (81.27x).

In context, 8127 or 16254 (up from 100 or 200 respectively) seems appropriately big for an indie game receiving an update relatively late after launch on a console with a limited install base. (Assuming weekly)

 

[ab.aeterno]

Congrats to the developers. Always good to hear a developer is doing well.

But without any hard numbers, the percentage comes across as sensationalist. That percentage increase means a lot more if sales were at 5000 and not 500, for example.

 

[Riki]

Congrats to the developers. Always good to hear a developer is doing well.

But without any hard numbers, the percentage comes across as sensationalist. That percentage increase means a lot more if sales were at 5000 and not 500, for example.

The percentage is all they can give, really.
Developers aren't allowed to share specific sales from eShop.

 

[GulAtiCa]

Why are some of you acting like it was a failure in first place? That percentage is most likely compared to last week. Though we don't have a time reference.

Keep in mind that this game launched about 5 months ago.

Anyways this is good news

 

[foxuzamaki]

I don't need to prove simple statistics and common sense. You learn that in high school. You just don't get a spike like that if your sales aren't low, you just don't.


My point is that the 8027% is kinda meaningless/missleading, and I'm pretty sure that was everyone point too. You don't actually believe they meant literally that it only sold ~80 copies did you?

no I dont believe anything, only thing I know is that twotribes were pleasantly shocked at the huge spike

 

[Colonel Mustard]

I don't need to prove simple statistics and common sense. You learn that in high school. You just don't get a spike like that if your sales aren't low, you just don't.

In context, what is low for an independent developer?

 

[Tan]

So Miiverse implementation = 8027% increase huh.

 

[Jucksalbe]

Assumption: 8027% is not a random number meaning "a lot".

That number might be rounded, though.

 

[Nessus]

It's almost as if huge sales are a major component of the success or failure of digital distribution models...

 

[ab.aeterno]

The percentage is all they can give, really.
Developers aren't allowed to share specific sales from eShop.

I don't doubt that's true. I'm just saying that without knowing what either the before or after numbers are, it's hard to give context to the increase. The percentage is in a vacuum, so all we can know is that is a great increase, not how great.

I love Sales-Age, so my curiosity is naturally piqued.

 

[BurnOutBrighter]

Is this how Nintendo expresses sales now? In percentages?

They always look so much higher when you have a low starting amount.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

Is this how Nintendo expresses sales now? In percentages?

They always look so much higher when you have a low starting amount.

Being that the basis of this thread is a tweet from Two Tribes, what does Nintendo have to do with any of this?

 

[Nosgoroth]

That number might be rounded, though.

It would mean bigger sales, though. 8027% is already very specific, to get integer sales from something like 8027.15% you'd have to have a bigger base number.

EDIT: No, not necessarily, no. That could happen, yes.

 

[Jucksalbe]

Is this how Nintendo expresses sales now? In percentages?

This number was made public by the developer, not by Nintendo.

 

[fabricated backlash]

Good news for Two Tribes.

I find the responses in this thread to be very amusing and telling.

 

[Jinfash]

people, stop this, your not funny and its already been said twice already on the 1st page and only a few posts away from eachother.

Stop the giving the number some real context?

 

[d[-_-]b]

No DBZ reference, GAF disappoints... as the Wii U threads are pretty much the same.

 

[Zoramon089]

Is this how Nintendo expresses sales now? In percentages?

They always look so much higher when you have a low starting amount.

Why is it like half the posts in this thread are trolling? Either people making stupid jokes about eShop games not selling (False) or posts like this which show you didn't even go to the link...

 

[tmarques]

people, stop this, your not funny and its already been said twice already on the 1st page and only a few posts away from eachother.

It's not only unfunny, it shows an embarrassing lack of basic mathematical knowledge.

 

[foxuzamaki]

Stop the giving the number some real context?

sigh...

 

[Tripon]

Even if it was only 8027 copies sold in one day, that's $80,189. Still a nice chuck of money for a small indie dev.

And with just one tweet, they managed to get publicity on Neogaf, so it did its job. =P

 

[Codeblue]

So 8027 people bought it?

So that's 8027 copies sold right?

But seriously, this is good news. I welcome more games to be on the eshop.

Stop the giving the number some real context?

Your mathematics teachers have failed you miserably.

 

[Nosgoroth]

Even if it was only 8027 copies sold in one day, that's $80,189. Still a nice chuck of money for a small indie dev.

And with just one tweet, they managed to get publicity on Neogaf, so it did its job. =P

Assuming industry standard 30% cut for Nintendo:

($8,99 * 8127) * 0.7 = $51,140

 

[iMerc]

eshop has been the one main positive grace for the wiiU platform and indies have gone on record again and again how their games have sold pretty well & that nintendo has been very 'liberal' with what they allow developers to do on it.

regardless of how the sales were before, a massive increase in sales can ONLY be a GOOD thing.
Disgusting to see so many morons try to spin this to be a negative just because it's on a nintendo platform.