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Tomb Raider II Remake Incoming?
- Thread starter MadClacker
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oh i remember that, it was not good god damn it i hope all games just let us save whenever we want -.-
Well, I guess what I said before about remake speculation remains:
There's at least a better excuse for some major changing around in TR2, because many of the modern environments in the first half are so impossibly abstract (as opposed to the original that had the excuse of mostly being in places intentionally designed as an obstacle) there's no way they could work with modern graphics with their current design. But I'd much rather they came up with decent replacement design rather than just slicing off everything that doesn't fit, and, based on Anniversary, I suspect the latter is what would happen.
Still, if it happened I wouldn't be able to resist getting hyped, and (intentionally or otherwise), based on Anniversary, at least they should nail a few segments.
There's at least a better excuse for some major changing around in TR2, because many of the modern environments in the first half are so impossibly abstract (as opposed to the original that had the excuse of mostly being in places intentionally designed as an obstacle) there's no way they could work with modern graphics with their current design. But I'd much rather they came up with decent replacement design rather than just slicing off everything that doesn't fit, and, based on Anniversary, I suspect the latter is what would happen.
Still, if it happened I wouldn't be able to resist getting hyped, and (intentionally or otherwise), based on Anniversary, at least they should nail a few segments.
RandomSeed
Member
Anniversary was pretty good, accepting the fact that magnet hands are here to stay. I'd check out a TR2 like that for sure.
Got quite nostalgic reading this thread, pining for the days of TRII on the Playstation. Have it for the PC but its a nightmare to get up and running so to my surprise (and absolute delight) discovered its available on Android. One 99c download and a 360 joypad and bit of chromecast dongling later and I have an absolutely exquisite version of it on my living room tv, all from the comfort of my phone. Got the original too for old times sake.
Man, its clunky but then, it wouldn't be TR if it wasn't
Man, its clunky but then, it wouldn't be TR if it wasn't
Shadax the wizard
Member
God damn it, I miss early Lara..
yesrushdt
Member
Couldn't agree with you any more Harlequin. I was so disappointed with Crystal's TRA that I'll never play it again. It would be great if Square Enix let the people that were working on Core Design's Tomb Raider Anniversary Edition finish it. Capcom's recent RE remasters have done very well sales wise and I'm sure that the RE2 remake will be just as popular (if not more) if it remains faithful to the original. Square Enix could enjoy the same success with PROPER Tomb Raider I & II remakes.
TakeItSlowDude
Member
Got quite nostalgic reading this thread, pining for the days of TRII on the Playstation. Have it for the PC but its a nightmare to get up and running so to my surprise (and absolute delight) discovered its available on Android. One 99c download and a 360 joypad and bit of chromecast dongling later and I have an absolutely exquisite version of it on my living room tv, all from the comfort of my phone. Got the original too for old times sake.
Man, its clunky but then, it wouldn't be TR if it wasn't
Interesting, looks nice with widescreen support and an updated UI, will have to try the Android version. It is too bad that the Steam versions are not updated.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I would be over the fucking moon if they redid it in the same style as Tomb Raider Anniversary. That stands as my favorite TR game, by far. And TR2 is arguably better source material than the original TR.
Psamtik. Death's Demise
Banned
I'd nearly forgotten that this one featured not one, but two (!) tyrannosauruses. Beneath the Great Wall of China, naturally.
CamHostage
Member
Probably is nothing, but either way, Tomb Raider 2 Anniversary would be great, the first Anniversary was wonderful and they should keep going.
If not, though, it'd be nice if they did the re-textured versions (like the TR2 iOS one mark_79 showed above) on more platforms than just mobile or PC the way Square Enix has with the Steam version of Final Fantasy VII on PS4 (though they didn't reciprocate yet on FF VIII or IX yet.)
If not, though, it'd be nice if they did the re-textured versions (like the TR2 iOS one mark_79 showed above) on more platforms than just mobile or PC the way Square Enix has with the Steam version of Final Fantasy VII on PS4 (though they didn't reciprocate yet on FF VIII or IX yet.)
potatohead
Member
Got quite nostalgic reading this thread, pining for the days of TRII on the Playstation. Have it for the PC but its a nightmare to get up and running so to my surprise (and absolute delight) discovered its available on Android. One 99c download and a 360 joypad and bit of chromecast dongling later and I have an absolutely exquisite version of it on my living room tv, all from the comfort of my phone. Got the original too for old times sake.
Man, its clunky but then, it wouldn't be TR if it wasn't
That's freaking hawt. Beautiful textures.
I got a Sony pad with DS4 connectivity... I should pick these up. I read that TR2 is also available actually.
Stereogatari
Banned
Got quite nostalgic reading this thread, pining for the days of TRII on the Playstation. Have it for the PC but its a nightmare to get up and running so to my surprise (and absolute delight) discovered its available on Android. One 99c download and a 360 joypad and bit of chromecast dongling later and I have an absolutely exquisite version of it on my living room tv, all from the comfort of my phone. Got the original too for old times sake.
Man, its clunky but then, it wouldn't be TR if it wasn't
That's what you call level design.
speedwagon_
Banned
That's the thing, core tomb raider was all about level design, platforming, and puzzles. The Atmosphere was spot on. Sadly CD games are more about the shooting, combat, and the movement just felt too smooth, making a jump was never risky.
EDIT: I truly hope I get to see a TR: Last revelations remake at some point in my life. Shame there is no love for that game anymore.
Piston Hyundai
Member
Is there a TR game that focuses on platforming? The combat and the puzzles in the Core games (the first three, at least) are nowhere near as fun as avoiding traps and lining up jumps.
Correctomundo
Member
I'm a Tomb Raider fan. Anniversary style remake or a simple port, I don't care. I'm always ready for more.
Not as fun as locking the final boss in there.
Not as fun as locking the final boss in there.
speedwagon_
Banned
Isn't that what TR I-V are? making risky jumps that meet to a sudden end. The combat is jank though but never felt like the focus. I would definitely recommend TR last Revelation if you have not played.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I know Square Enix are keen on their HD Remasters, but this seems like a stretch based on not very much at all.
Shadax the wizard
Member
Last revelations is amazing! It, along with TRII are by far my favorites in the series.
speedwagon_
Banned
To me, it's one of the most cohesive games in the series and actually brought decent changes to the formula set by TRI-III.
ubersticky
Member
No thanks, not if it's gonna be with the nuLara. I can see them fucking this up.
BluenoseGames
Member
Nope they had Tomb Raider 1 a while back, they're just going through all of the Tomb Raider games to celebrate 20 Years of Tomb Raider. The only anniversary type thing that I can see happening is classic levels re-imagined in the GO format.
I don't think NuLara is part of this. They seem to be running Classic Lara Croft brand in parallel to the shooter games - GO, Temple of Osiris.
I hope this is Anniversary II
Piston Hyundai
Member
I thought II had too much combat in the middle chapters of the game and the puzzles were so rough in III that I ended up skipping the penultimate level since it was just a gigantic, annoying mess.
What's so good about Last Revelation?
speedwagon_
Banned
The game is designed around being in the only Egypt, so this means bigger levels that intersect with each other (you can go from one level into a loading screen into the other and then back again) the levels are also less linear and the game is pretty much set only in tombs, there is no globe trotting which is a downer to some.
TRI-III used largely the same engine and all look pretty similar in terms of fidelity, TRIV has a retooled engine for improved lighting and more polygons. gone away is the disk inventory for a much better UI, I would get a picture but I can't find one right now.
the game pretty much fixes your problems with TRII and TRIII.
EDIT: Sorry I didn't answer your question properly, quite busy at the moment.
That was a different time when QTE was the big thing. I'm sure they wouldn't commit to the same design principles again.
potatohead
Member
The first 3 crystal dynamics games were far more faithful to the source material. They aren't nearly like the last two reboot games.
Don't know what crystal is trying to do now though. They've bet so much on the Uncharted cloning that I don't think they can go back until we get another total reboot.
Caipirinha
Member
Considering there hasn't been a real Tomb Raider game released since The Last Revelation I wouldn't say no.
Caipirinha
Member
Best Tomb Raider.
The original games were about raiding tombs, the new ones are just a poor man's Uncharted reskin. I absolutely despise them and what they have done to the series. To me, they are a bigger afront to the original than even Angel of Darkness.
I truly miss getting from one side of a level to the other and looking back at where I came from and thinking phew, look what I've achieved, after spending so much time intricately maneuvering Lara every inch of the way.
Now it's a third person shooter with a few "tap X to traverse obstacle" segments. Trash.
Patrick S.
Banned
Got quite nostalgic reading this thread, pining for the days of TRII on the Playstation. Have it for the PC but its a nightmare to get up and running so to my surprise (and absolute delight) discovered its available on Android. One 99c download and a 360 joypad and bit of chromecast dongling later and I have an absolutely exquisite version of it on my living room tv, all from the comfort of my phone. Got the original too for old times sake.
Man, its clunky but then, it wouldn't be TR if it wasn't
I need this in my life! How do you do that?
Caipirinha
Member
Do you think rock climbing and absailing in real life is easy?
Controlling Lara should be difficult and precise, that's where the challenge came from in a TR game.
My dream Tomb Raider is basically a rock climbing simulator with huge beautiful environments and customisable loadouts.. Not weapon loadouts, but different types of equipment for traversing the landscape, determining which of multiple paths you can take. Included in this would be first aid gear needed to patch yourself up as necessary eg. twist your ankle? Better have picked a splint and some painkillers otherwise you're gonna be limping and those jumps will be even harder to make etc.
The only combat Tomb Raider needs is a couple of pistols to deal with wild animals and very occasionally, enemy humans, and once or twice in the entire game.. Supernatural threats.
Take a screenshot? Or play the game on TV?
I don't - but I'm not trying to rock climb in real life or simulate it. This is a video game. It's supposed to be fun. I finished TRII back when it was released so I'm well acquainted with it. TRII has the very definition of tank controls. Modern gamers would eviscerate it if they kept that control scheme.
Caipirinha
Member
I don't necessarily want tank controls, but I want there to be challenge in maneuvering the environment. I love Uncharted but "traversal" in that game is utterly brain dead as a gameplay mechanic, it's basically window dressing, and that's fine for Uncharted but it has always been the core of Tomb Raider.
That's what I've wanted from every reboot, but every reboot has moved further and further away from it to the point where now, you don't even have the window dressing, it's literally just a third person shooter starring a girl that happens to have the same name.
I'm Spartacus
Member
I've learned from this thread that I'm not in the minority of one in having a dislike for Tomb Raider Anniversary! I thought I was the only one.
potatohead
Member
Did you try the 6th gen TR games? I really liked Legend and Underworld.
Not saying they are the same as the OG series, and you probably already played them.
There's room for failing jumps and such but not as much or as hardcore as OG TR of course.
Caipirinha
Member
I found them a bit too easy and linear. Things like big glowing UI markers for where to throw your grappling hook etc. just feels so against what TR was all about imo.
I never played Underworld though, I liked the look of it aesthetically but that engine burned me with Legend and I never gave it a shot.
I kind of liked Angel of Darkness though so maybe there's just something wrong with me.