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[akira28]

ahaha how many fucking centuries will they fight the faith vs good works battle? They have money in the bank, so really this is just about turf at this point.

So much so, they'll even overrule the Pope.

 

[legbone]

It is ok for you to believe what you believe. That is your right.
It is great that you have the ability to challenge and question dogma. Never stop questioning, never stop thinking critically. Those are the two more important things. Good luck.

thanks. i will never stop questioning and thinking critically. i'd be a fool if i did.

 

[cmr-94]

Well atleast the pope knows what's gunna "happen"

 

[boiled goose]

ahaha how many fucking centuries will they fight the faith vs good works battle? They have money in the bank, so really this is just about turf at this point.

So much so, they'll even overrule the Pope.

Both arguments can be made from the Bible. The argument will never end till people chuck the bible entirely.

 

[JWong]

Those Atheist gods are going to have to do something about this.

 

[John Dunbar]

In response to the media attention, the Rev. Thomas Rosica, a Vatican spokesman, said that people who know about the Catholic church “cannot be saved” if they “refuse to enter her or remain in her.”

(Translation: Atheists are going to Hell if they don’t accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour.)

The translation bit sounds less strict that the original quote. It makes it sound like all Christians are going to heaven, but the actual quote sounds like those dirty protestants are fucked.

 

[boiled goose]

Those Atheist gods are going to have to do something about this.

gods that don't believe in themselves?

 

[Riposte]

Whatever, I think Satan gets a bad rap in the first place.

 

[Log4Girlz]

This pope seems like a cool guy.


The Vatican though, why you gotta hate on my shit?

Unlike some who may accuse atheists of being arrogant, at least I believe in the end, everyone is equal regardless of beliefs or lack of thereof. I do not understand how expecting hellfire on anyone who doesn't share your beliefs is somehow indicative of humility.

 

[Broken Arrow]

If their heaven is filled with Catholics, I'd rather be in hell

 

[PJV3]

Kayden Kross will be in hell, sorry Jesus.

 

[Wickerbasket]

Well, they can't let everyone think they're going to heaven, otherwise who's going to give them money?

 

[BocoDragon]

Lol Catholic Church!

Knew it, by the way. The "only through me" bit is a doctrine they can never slide on, because its what gives them legitimacy.

 

[gurudyne]

I do not understand how expecting hellfire on anyone who doesn't share your beliefs is somehow indicative of humility.

It's indicative of humility, just not in any way relevant to non-believers. Logic goes like this:

Humility before God (by staying true to one's own faith regardless of outcome) > humility before fellow man.

In fact:

Anything in regards to God > anything in regards to man.

I agree with you that paying more service to one's faith than to fellow human beings erodes one's own humanity, but that's because I'm an atheist and see religious faith as largely meaningless. If I were a religious man, that would be reversed, especially in the Judeo-Christian set where God's interactions with the first Israelite laid down the groundwork for faith in God trumping human concerns like compassion, love and saddest of all, even reason (Abraham's sacrifice on the mountain.)

It's a sad and tragic worldview, but it makes sense. Just comes down to the question "How much do we owe God?"

 

[BocoDragon]

It's indicative of humility, just not in any way relevant to non-believers. Logic goes like this:

Humility before God (by staying true to one's own faith regardless of outcome) > humility before fellow man.

In fact:

Anything in regards to God > anything in regards to man.

I agree with you that paying more service to one's faith than to fellow human beings erodes one's own humanity, but that's because I'm an atheist and see religious faith as largely meaningless. If I were a religious man, that would be reversed, especially in the Judeo-Christian set where God's interactions with the first Israelite laid down the groundwork for faith in God trumping human concerns like compassion, love and saddest of all, even reason (Abraham's sacrifice on the mountain.)

It's a sad and tragic worldview, but it makes sense. Just comes down to the question "How much do we owe God?"

God is like a loan shark. Better pay him back or he'll bust up your shins.

 

[Magni]

This is some terrible innuendo.

Fuck the Church!

 

[Schadenfreude]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_mK0nrrsbI

 

[xenist]

Kayden Kross will be in hell, sorry Jesus.

What if there's some secret clause about hot women getting in heaven no matter what?

 

[PJV3]

What if there's some secret clause about hot women getting in heaven no matter what?

God can't have his cake and eat it, He can have the nuns.

 

[commedieu]

so the vaticans power level is higher?

 

[crackhead_bob]

I find it telling that the Vatican church is very explicit in what ultimate fate they feel is appropriate for atheists but are conflicted when it comes to pedophiles within their own gates.

 

[Freezie KO]

We're back to going to hell?

I'm okay with this dot gif?

 

[Aiii]

That's fine Vatican, we don't believe in Hell. Thanks for clarifying this for us, though.

 

[jaxword]

About time they took a hard line stance against the scourge of atheism!

 

[NullPointer]

gods that don't believe in themselves?

We call them 'people'.

 

[BocoDragon]

Think about the fact that there are GROWN MEN discussing things like this.

Religion.

 

[HalfBakedProphet]

This is pretty awesome because it shows how petty and fucked up the Catholic Church is with one single line.

 

[NullPointer]

This is pretty awesome because it shows how petty and fucked up the Catholic Church is with one single line.

And how irrelevant the idea of a Pope really is.

I didn't know the word of God needed so many asterisks.

 

[entremet]

might also be due to a translation from latin or italian so there are no gender neutral pronouns?

Pronouns were not used in that passage. The noun for bride was used.

 

[HalfBakedProphet]

And how irrelevant the idea of a Pope really is.

Indeed. Totally undermines his authority

 

[jaxword]

Think about the fact that there are GROWN MEN discussing things like this.

Religion.

Grown men are willing to murder each other over this, dude. Discussing it is petty but still less destructive.

 

[Iadien]

I'll sure be surprised when I end up in a place I don't believe in. "Well I'll be damned!"

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Think about the fact that there are GROWN MEN discussing things like this.

Religion.

Is it as bad as grown men arguing over games?

 

[AHA-Lambda]

This is some terrible innuendo.

Dat sexual frustration

 

[akira28]

Both arguments can be made from the Bible. The argument will never end till people chuck the bible entirely.

That kind of misses the point. The point isn't to make a case or finding an argument to make, and they've forgotten that. They forget that, they may as well chuck the bible entirely, because it hasn't done them any good.

But no, I won't support bible chucking, except in self-defense.

 

[BocoDragon]

Grown men are willing to murder each other over this, dude. Discussing it is petty but still less destructive.

But at least nutty activity like murder is consistent with the nutty nature of religious source material.

A beauracracy of elderly men having a big important debate over who goes to World 8 - Fire World for thinking the wrong thoughts is just that much more absurd.

Is it as bad as grown men arguing over games?

Games are real.

 

[Kinyou]

to bad the pope already said it no givesies backsies

Yep, and there's also the Papal infallibility.

 

[jgminto]

Well shit. I was so excited too. What a shame.

 

[Majmun]

Ah fuck, looks like I'm going to hell :/

Let's go together

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

If their heaven is filled with Catholics, I'd rather be in hell

hahaha, I know you didn't thought of it, but this sounds like some good'ole turn of the century racism if anything.

 

[Horseticuffs]

Frankie baby! I thought we we paisans!

 

[t-ramp]

Think about the fact that there are GROWN MEN discussing things like this.

Religion.

It especially boggles my mind whenever a supposedly rational person makes claims about the sneaky shenanigans Satan is up to.

Also amusing is the fact that protestant Christians I'm acquainted with poke fun at the ridiculous stuff Mormons or Catholics believe. Plank in your own eye, etc.

 

[Ikael]

This headline is facetious as fuck. So a priest is now a "Vatican spokesman" and his autority overrides the Pope's? Also, no mention on hell or whatsoever on his quote but hey, let's put it there for good shocking measure. Fucking pathetic piece of "journalism" that had to shit unpon an actual much needed gesture of goodwill towards atheists, but then again, articles that reinforces people's beliefs, such as the inherent evilness of the catholic church are always popular, I guess. For some people it is really easy to fall for this.

 

[jaxword]

This headline is facetious as fuck. So a priest is now a "Vatican spokesman" and his autority overrides the Pope's? Also, no mention on hell or whatsoever on his quote but hey, let's put it there for good shocking measure. Fucking pathetic piece of "journalism" that had to shit unpon an actual much needed gesture of goodwill towards atheists, but then again, articles that reinforces people's beliefs, such as the inherent evilness of the catholic church are always popular, I guess. For some people it is really easy to fall for this, I guess.

So you're saying that this priest doesn't represent Catholics?

 

[NullPointer]

Yep, and there's also the Papal infallibility*

fixed

But I thought God loved me? Or is he really so egotistical and petty that he would damn people to eternal suffering for not worshiping him regardless of their other actions during life?

Of course God loves* you. Don't be silly.

 

[Alchemy]

But I thought God loved me? Or is he really so egotistical and petty that he would damn people to eternal suffering for not worshiping him regardless of their other actions during life?

 

[akira28]

I think atheists should seize upon this and press the issue.

It's guaranteed to be interesting.

 

[eso76]

So, you heard them guys. If you're an atheist you can do what you want, it doesn't make a difference if you help old ladies cross the street or sell drugs to 8 years olds.

 

[remist]

This headline is facetious as fuck. So a priest is now a "Vatican spokesman" and his autority overrides the Pope's? Also, no mention on hell or whatsoever on his quote but hey, let's put it there for good shocking measure. Fucking pathetic piece of "journalism" that had to shit unpon an actual much needed gesture of goodwill towards atheists, but then again, articles that reinforces people's beliefs, such as the inherent evilness of the catholic church are always popular, I guess. For some people it is really easy to fall for this.

Yes, he is a Vatican spokesman. He part of the Holy See press office and a official spokesperson. I really don't see where people are getting that he is overriding the pope. The pope's original remarks weren't clear and Rosica claims to speak to the pope's intentions. If that is a lie then I'm sure the pope will clear things up. And unless I'm mistaken Hell and purgatory are part of official catholic dogma.

 

[Cameron122]

NOOOOOOOOO