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[ArkkAngel007]

I can't believe this forum sometimes. It looks great. Even the vehicle section looked great. The gif is from a section where a light shone towards the camera, so it looks all faded. Why is everyone so jaded and critical?

Can you explain why it's so great?

 

[SwiftDeath]

Wow that GTA: Vice City port for next gen consoles sure is looking good

 

[MaLDo]

exactly this. look at the wind and dust in the original footage and how much depth and atmosphere it brings to the scene. compared to the 2014 footage that has none of that.

I mean, look at this:

I can't unsee the old old gen water shader.

Water in promo shots

 

[GamingIsDead]

what in the hell is up with those light flashes on the road, by the way? That has to be a glitch, no? Haven't seen lighting that bad in quite some time.

Ubisoft likes to make horrendous ui choices see the highlight and graphical artifacts in all assassins creeds or every usable object flashing yellow in fc3 or the annoying floating hud in future solder.

 

[spookyfish]

Wii U definitive version again, it seems.

 

[LegoArmo]

Lighting and shadows remain absolutely horrible.

 

[Kinyou]

But, where is this scene from?

I only can find this trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuAbH8Z8iwk

and the scene is not there. Also, cars in the trailers have reflections.

Since reveal, characters have lost sss in skin shaders, but otherwise, looks like an awesome piece of tech for an open world.

It's from this italian site

http://www.everyeye.it/ps4/articoli/watch-dogs_hands-on_21862

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

One gif. 15 page thread.

Wonder what the final version looks like. Also other scenes. The trailer didn't look as bad as that gif.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Beats me. They said it was a mistake. Maybe a bit of PS3 footage?

Where did they say it was mistake ?

 

[chubigans]

Whoever runs PS Denmark's twitter said it was PS4 footage. It doesn't make any sense to use inferior footage to advertise your game with, but how/why do you make the lightning look that flat?

They said this was PS4 footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtAXMxEB13A

edit: not sure what that footage is from in the OP.

 

[Alienous]

I can't unsee the old old gen water shader.

Water in promo shots

Fucking Ubisoft.

Damn you.

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

I can't believe this forum sometimes. It looks great. Even the vehicle section looked great. The gif is from a section where a light shone towards the camera, so it looks all faded. Why is everyone so jaded and critical?

we have eyes

 

[Dany]

Man, what abummer

 

[Broder Salsa]

Could smell this coming from miles away, especially with it being ps360 too they were never going to truly push the consoles.

Never trust "gameplay trailers".

 

[GrayFoxPL]

Perfect bail out. What movie is this from?

"Cold Eyes".

 

[Valnen]

I hope digital foundry rips this game apart when it comes out, comparing it to older footage and everything.

 

[jmdajr]

Asscreed looks very good on PS4.

This looks like shit.

I guess. I don't know what I expected.

 

[K.Sabot]

Looks like the capability of mid-range PC hardware to me.

 

[meanspartan]

Didn't we see actually Gameplay demos that looked better than this though? I coulda sworn IGN or someone had a video of a friggin sidequest where they took down some base and it looked graphically pretty good, and absolutely better than this. (Although it also looked boring)

 

[plagiarize]

I can't unsee the old old gen water shader.

Water in promo shots

again, I know everyone is focusing on the lighting, but these shots highlight the complete lack of atmospherics really well. the mist from the water which added so much depth to the scene is completely gone. trees, grass, wires in the sky, are all just completely motionless now too. the environment is completely static.

 

[MaLDo]

Fucking Ubisoft.

Damn you.

Or maybe is another Just Cause 2 case

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/gamescom-2013-nvidia-watch-dogs-interview

 

[TheRealTalker]

Taken from Italian preview trailer.

That surely can't be PS4, GTA5 looks better than that on last gen.

this has to be las gen


so the OP footage from that is kinda irrelevant

still the Story trailer shows that the PS4 version is still a HD last gen port with baked lighting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGf35yUj4qo&feature=c4-overview&list=UU-2Y8dQb0S6DtpxNgAKoJKA

 

[MikeJAMoran]

We're forced to be jaded and critical when no one in the industry is. It's on the consumer's shoulders to be wary of everything right now, in a world where bullshots, scams and deceitfulness are ordinary things, condoned by the press.

Hmm... well I don't think is an Alien: Colonial Marines situation, where we had no idea what had changed until it was actually out, but I get what you mean. I still think we need to see more gameplay footage.

I do think that gif isn't really representative of the vehicle section as a whole, though.

Can you explain why it's so great?

Technically, no, but I don't see why it's so bad. I'm just think everyone is overreacting.

 

[DyTonic]

I would rather wait another year.

 

[J3ffro]

This feels like one of those from the penthouse to the basement type deals. I watched the launch date trailer this morning, and for the first time actually started caring about the story and getting pumped for the game. Now this.

Holding onto a shred of hope that it doesn't ship like this.

 

[Axass]

Haha goddamnit Ubisoft.

You guys want to guess what The Division will look like when it finally comes out?

When this:

won't be in, people are gonna ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ RIOT ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ.

 

[StevieP]

We're forced to be jaded and critical when no one in the industry is. It's on the consumer's shoulders to be wary of everything right now, in a world where bullshots, scams and deceitfulness are ordinary things, condoned by the press.

Some of us on this forum warned you guys about extremely high-end PC reveals vs retail console builds many times for many of these games. We get insulted out of threads, unfortunately, and the press laps up as many bullshots as they can publish on their sites constantly.

 

[razgriz417]

One gif. 15 page thread.

Wonder what the final version looks like. Also other scenes. The trailer didn't look as bad as that gif.

The rest of the trailer looked alright, nothing to get excited about (IMO) and when in comparison to the reveal trailer I'm super bummed at how this game looks. Hope the story and gameplay are still good, it's definitely not a visual showpiece anymore

 

[Mr_Antimatter]

Yeah, i'll be waiting on this one money wise till release. Not all that inspired by the previews so far.

 

[IcyBlueStrawberry]

I can't unsee the old old gen water shader.

Water in promo shots

It pains me to think of what could have been...

 

[Green Yoshi]

So they built a demo area with all the game's assets just for that video? How do you know this?

It is unfortunately the most likely version. The E3 2012 demo was done on a Highend-PC without the limitations of the consoles.

 

[TyrantII]

Something about the new lighting engine just seems... off

(screencaps from a very low bitrate "HD" re-encode from that Italian site. B-Roll isn't up yet on gamersyde)

Maybe they went to a combination of pre-baked and dynamic light, where before it was more some form of GI? In the initial reveal, the lighting was everything IMO and it seems to have been totally neutered in these new videos.

The video of the car might be a tad misleading also. Here's a reverse angle showing a hilarious wide spot light coming from the Helicopter:

Not sure why they changed the tight, realistic looking spot light. Probably for gameplay reason as well as technical, but it breaks the immersion.

 

[See You Next Wednesday]

Might as well downgrade that Division hype now before someone gets hurt.

After this debacle, NO ONE will expects anything of The Division.
Expectations of it have dropped to zero.

 

[Jigolo]

not buying this confirmed. I thought with the 8 month delay they were going to get to close to E3 2012 levels. boy was I wrong

 

[Woo-Fu]

From this point forward all bullshots will be referred to as ubishots.

 

[SykoTech]

That gif in the OP....wow. I refused to believe that was real at first. Surely it was just an exaggeration mocking the downgrade or something. What have they been doing all these months?

My hype for Watch_Dogs had already fizzled considerably already. Now, I'll probably skip it entirely.

Also, glad I was never that excited for The Division.

 

[Pryce]

Something about the new lighting engine just seems... off



Maybe they went to a combination of pre-baked and dynamic light, where before it was more some form of GI? In the initial reveal, the lighting was everything IMO and it seems to have been totally neutered in these new videos.

The video of the car might be a tad misleading also. Here's a reverse angle showing a hilarious wide spot light coming from the Helicopter:

(vids from a very low bitrate "HD" re-encode from that Italian site. B-Roll isn't up yet on gamersyde)

lololol holy shit looks terrble.

Is this Watch Dogs or GTA 4.

 

[Valnen]

From this point forward all bullshots will be referred to as ubishots.

Sounds good to me.

 

[Dany]

So why was it delayed?

 

[nick380]

Wow, Ubisoft is losing it...all that delay for a downgrade. I almost feel swindled and I haven't even per-ordered... I'll be getting infamous, thank you for making that clear now.

 

[danwarb]

It pains me to think of what could have been...

...If next-gen console hardware wasn't so lame. That water was never going to happen.

 

[Nzyme32]

I can't unsee the old old gen water shader.

Water in promo shots

The PC version is partnered with nVidia, so it might be possible that this is still around using one their features, but we'll have to wait and see

 

[keltickennedy]

Hard to believe that this was the original reveal.

Not HARD to believe...its UbiSOFT.

Remember "Next gen starts here"

 

[Xater]

Earlier today I thought it didn't look that different at all, but that was just based on seeing the new trailer. Now seeing these gifs side by side there is quite the difference. Seems like the initial reveal in 2012 was a lot of smoke and mirrors and cross gen development show it's ugly head now.

 

[LegendofLex]

This is why you never trust footage for a game for which there are no free-to-access, playable demos at the E3 for the year in which it's projected to release.

 

[Valnen]

So why was it delayed?

Further downgrades it would seem. The game looks even worse than the downgraded footage we saw last year. There's no way around it, Ubisoft is incompetent.

 

[Axass]

So why was it delayed?

Because in November the game was worse than last gen GTAV.

 

[danwarb]

The video of the car might be a tad misleading also. Here's a reverse angle showing a hilarious wide spot light coming from the Helicopter:


Not sure why they changed the tight, realistic looking spot light. Probably for gameplay reason as well as technical, but it breaks the immersion.

I think it's highlighted, because you can hack/raise the bridge?

 

[Goro Majima]

So why was it delayed?

Apparently they had to actually make a game and the rest of the time before that was spent making awesome "gameplay" demos.

 

[Wishmaster92]

And this is how its done on PS4 correctly ...

Try these:

I can't unsee the old old gen water shader.

Water in promo shots

hmmm i wonder what happened to the jell-o water?