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What is Treasure's best game?
- Thread starter mrmickfran
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Alien Soldier without a doubt. Cuts the in between bullshit to a few seconds and only throws well designed bosses at you. You really have to plan ahead with which weapons you choose at the beginning and when to upgrade which ones. The core mechanics are fast, unique, varied, and fun. Hovering, being able to walk on the ceiling, the invincible dash, the split second shield that can nullify certain projectiles, etc. It's a masterpiece. I think it's biggest flaw is that the final boss is too easy.
We need more devs like Treasure that push the limits of game design ;_;
We need more devs like Treasure that push the limits of game design ;_;
Ryu bogard
Member
My favorite is guardian heroes. I was really happy when they re released it on 360 a few years back.
Baleoce
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i3allistic
Member
man, i wish they would release a greatest hit series or remaster series for PS4/XBO
Sojiro
Member
Hmm, I have to go with either Mischief Makers, Dynamite Headdy, or Gunstar Heroes personally, really hard to choose one of those three. Star Successor is pretty close too though.
Oh Shit, Treasure was responsible for Bangai-O? I did not remember that. Well hell, that really screws my picks up...I really really love Bangai-o.
Oh Shit, Treasure was responsible for Bangai-O? I did not remember that. Well hell, that really screws my picks up...I really really love Bangai-o.
djplaeskool
Member
Toss-up:
Radiant Silvergun, Gunstar Heroes, Sin & Punishment 2, Silhouette Mirage
Shout outs:
Alien Soldier, Gradius V, Ikaruga, Bangai-O
Damn near their entire catalog is amazing.
Radiant Silvergun, Gunstar Heroes, Sin & Punishment 2, Silhouette Mirage
Shout outs:
Alien Soldier, Gradius V, Ikaruga, Bangai-O
Damn near their entire catalog is amazing.
Ritzboof
Member
i really love the original S&P for the n64. it as japan exclusive, but yknow, its still awesome. theres something about the visual style of that game that i really love. so many angles, and so much cool looking biomechanoid junk. i really feel like its one of the best looking games on the n64. the assets made up of a bunch of other assets that treasure is especially good with moved into 3D flawlessly with some extra sausage wieners on top. so slick and cool. ive never played star successor, though, and its hard for me to appreciate the visual style with the original as my benchmark
that aside, alien soldier and dynamite headdy will always have a place in my heart. i tried to get good at speedrunning alien soldier for the longest time, and yeah, its awesome and i should get back into it again. radiant silvergun rules, too, even if i suck at it and like einhander better. i never played much of gunstar heroes, but dammit i played it twice, and it deserves to be mentioned
wario world is a blast to play, as well. ive been a fan of wario world since i had it on the gamecube, and it only recently dawned on me that it was made by treasure. i was amazed, cuz i had the same thing happen with dynamite headdy; i vaguely remembered it from when i was like 3, and fast forward 80% of my life, i find out its made by treasure. these guys touched all of our hearts whether we know it or not
gaist crusher GOAT tho
edit: i almost forgot to mention stretch panic. its not that good, but theres nothing else in the world like it, and the gimmick of stretching things is so well executed and fun
that aside, alien soldier and dynamite headdy will always have a place in my heart. i tried to get good at speedrunning alien soldier for the longest time, and yeah, its awesome and i should get back into it again. radiant silvergun rules, too, even if i suck at it and like einhander better. i never played much of gunstar heroes, but dammit i played it twice, and it deserves to be mentioned
wario world is a blast to play, as well. ive been a fan of wario world since i had it on the gamecube, and it only recently dawned on me that it was made by treasure. i was amazed, cuz i had the same thing happen with dynamite headdy; i vaguely remembered it from when i was like 3, and fast forward 80% of my life, i find out its made by treasure. these guys touched all of our hearts whether we know it or not
gaist crusher GOAT tho
edit: i almost forgot to mention stretch panic. its not that good, but theres nothing else in the world like it, and the gimmick of stretching things is so well executed and fun
MadOdorMachine
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I did a google search. The article links back to a NeoGAF thread from March this year.
From Niche Gamer:
Going off of this it looks like they are focusing on re-releasing their older games, but that a team could be put together to make a new game if need be. The thing is, I thought that was how they have been operating for a long time. They talked this in the "Iwata Asks" for S&P2.
BasedKiliK
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There's a reason my avatar is Epsilon.
That said, S&P2 is fucking amazing and sits near the top for me.
That said, S&P2 is fucking amazing and sits near the top for me.
deadscreensky
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Ikaruga has a purity to its design that really appeals to me. It's a complete experience in a way so few games manage, with the art design, story/setting, and game mechanics all feeding into each other. Art and story going together obviously isn't especially unusual, but to have the gameplay fit in as well is nearly unique. In Ikaruga there's a dystopic world wracked by some kind of corrupted religious expression, a twisted form of systematic dualism, and the only solution is for you the player to overcome this false dualism yourself, which is done entirely via the game's actual polarity-focused mechanics. It's not only a video game, it's also a religious ritual, a prayer or meditation which you participate in just by playing. What a brilliant work of art.
Astroboy: Omega Factor - if you haven't played this, you should.
Yes.
Everyone needs to try this. You don't even need to be familiar with Astro Boy as the game has a made up story (although if you're a fan of Tezuka's works it'll be a treat because it's basically one big crossover).
That and Gunstar Heroes and Mischief Makers are my favorites. I have a ton of their games on my backlog tho, I should try Sin and Punishment next.
chillybright
Banned
Gunstar Heroes
Astroboy: Omega Factor - if you haven't played this, you should.
I have played these two. And they are all AMAZING! Gunstar Heroes hard mode is hard as fuck. Spent a lot of time with my friend on this game when we were kids.
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Deleted member 74300
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They should start doing that someday.
VendettaRed07
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It's Radiant Silvergun
Tyrant Rave
Banned
Sin & Punishment 2 is SO good. My favorite.
I really love Gunstar Heroes too. Super fun in co-op.
I really love Gunstar Heroes too. Super fun in co-op.
The correct response is Guardian Heroes!
One of a few games that I actually made fan art for!
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/3q2DJ
One of a few games that I actually made fan art for!
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/3q2DJ
DeadPhoenix
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V
Vilix
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My all time favorite would be a game made by Hideo Ueda before he left Konami to start Treasure.
Axelay!
Axelay!
Radiant silvergun is more fun than ikaruga
Skiptastic
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RiderKairuu
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Gunstar Heroes.
InfiniteCombo
Banned
I like the way you think.
Bakkus
Member
Aren't their over a dozen games owned by around 10 different publishers? It's never gonna happen.
mrmickfran
Member
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
I keep seeing this and i'm going to call Bullshit on it again for the Xth hundred time
For whatever reason there is a strong stench in the SHMUP community that wants to constantly drag down Treasure. I certainly don't recall many "treasure fans" at the time hating it but i do recall the same shitty trolls moaning about "Treasure think they are clever" and "it's not a shmup it's a puzzle game" etc etc. Hell, people were talking shit about it BEFORE it even came out because people already loved hating on Radiant Silvergun because... oh where do we start? it became the pin up for high priced imports and , of course, if you didn't buy it at the start you were some how "a poseur" and if you bought it and liked it you "didn't like shmups" and TRY A REAL SHMUP like Battle Garrega or (cave game here). Everyone is a poseur and only a certain troll set know the real truth of SHMUPAGE and RETROAGE. Wankers paradise. Long may it wallow in it's own stench.
Even Cave in the later end of their pomp were getting the exact same turds saying the exact same things because , for whatever reason, there's a poison that runs through SHMUPS and Retrogaming where people just can't help being arseholes. It's why i walked away from both scenes. Too many people WAY too far up their own arseholes.
Back on topic, Ikaruga is solid.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
For me it's Gunstar heroes. A game I replay once a year.
neostapler
Member
Ikaruga.......hands.....down.
close runner up...Astro boy.....i imported that shit
close runner up...Astro boy.....i imported that shit
Just in case here is a reference list:
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_(company)
- Gunstar Heroes
- McDonald's Treasure Land Adventure
- Dynamite Headdy
- YuYu Hakusho Makyoutoissen
- Alien Soldier
- Light Crusader
- Guardian Heroes
- Silhouette Mirage
- Radiant Silvergun
- Rakugaki Showtime
- Bangai-O
- GunBeat
- Silpheed: The Lost Planet
- Stretch Panic
- Ikaruga
- Tiny Toon Adventures: Buster's Bad Dream AKA: Scary Dreams
- Hajime no Ippo: The Fighting!
- Tiny Toon Adventures: Defenders of the Universe
- Dragon Drive: D-Masters Shot
- Astro Boy: Omega Factor
- Gradius V
- Advance Guardian Heroes
- Gunstar Super Heroes
- Bleach: The Blade of Fate
- Bleach: Dark Souls
- Gunstar Heroes Treasure Box
- Bangai-O Spirits
- Bleach: Versus Crusade
- Bangai-O HD: Missile Fury
- Radiant Silvergun
- Guardian Heroes
- Mischief Makers
- Wario World
- Sin and Punishment
- Sin & Punishment: Star Successor
- Gaist Crusher
- Gaist Crusher God
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_(company)
ImNotRegret
Neo Member
So, I had this account for 2 years now and never posted anything. Why not start now when it´s concerning my favourite developers?
Ikaruga is the game that influenced my gaming habits the most. It´s just that it had a pretty big impact on me and I guess it´s a bit stupid, but for whatever reason it drew me in with it´s artstyle, the music, the story (as simple as it is),
and of course the gameplay. If you look at high level play you realize how well thought out it is and it is mesmerizing to watch... yeah,I know, that´s true for many shmups and I know that Ikaruga, for some reason, is not well liked in some shmup circles...
... but Ikaruga made me realise how much more games can be than just simple entertainment, it also made me realise that games can be art.
So yeah. Ikaruga is their best game, Followed by either of the 2 Sin & Punishments (both are pretty much perfection, but what do I know).
Ikaruga is the game that influenced my gaming habits the most. It´s just that it had a pretty big impact on me and I guess it´s a bit stupid, but for whatever reason it drew me in with it´s artstyle, the music, the story (as simple as it is),
and of course the gameplay. If you look at high level play you realize how well thought out it is and it is mesmerizing to watch... yeah,I know, that´s true for many shmups and I know that Ikaruga, for some reason, is not well liked in some shmup circles...
... but Ikaruga made me realise how much more games can be than just simple entertainment, it also made me realise that games can be art.
So yeah. Ikaruga is their best game, Followed by either of the 2 Sin & Punishments (both are pretty much perfection, but what do I know).
Gunstar Heroes
The rest of the game plays a lot differently. I hate that people keep posting this, even if it is a good fight. The rest of the starting stages are decent, but the game never gets any better.
S&P 2 is simply a better game (I would rate Gunstar over the original S&P though).
baberunisei
Member
For me it certainly is Ikaruga. Sadly there's probably not going to be another shmup as good as it is.
There's a tumor in your post
How anyone can like that mess of a sandbox is beyond me
You must be thinking of a different game. Sin & Punishment 2 is an on-rails shooter.
randomengine
Banned
Gunstar Heroes is perfection.
Guardian Heroes is their flawed masterpiece.
Guardian Heroes is their flawed masterpiece.
SOME-MIST
Member
s&p star successor for sure
granted, it's not utilized in the exact same fashion, but great mahou daisakusen (dimahoo) predates ikaruga in its polarity mechanics.