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What is Treasure's best game?
- Thread starter mrmickfran
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Astroboy: Omega Factor - if you haven't played this, you should.
Gunstar Heroes
Both of these win. Both are absolutely amazing games. Astro Boy in particular was a VERY pleasant surprise as I initially didn't expect much from it back then.
Pretty sure he's referring to Bangai-O
Ahhh, that would make sense. How could anyone not love the beauty that is S&P2:SS?
SOME-MIST
Member
yea right... compared to something like silhouette mirage?
professor denim
Member
To me would be Radiant Silvergun. Its just a monster of a videogame.
I didn't bold the error, I used an arrow. JC already had S&P bolded.
Dynamite Headdy.
Hell, I was just about to post this (Angry Gatekeeper) in the "Unforgettable boss music" thread.
Hell, I was just about to post this (Angry Gatekeeper) in the "Unforgettable boss music" thread.
Soltype
Member
Here's a collection of interviews about Alien Soldier, shows how ambitious these guys really are.Can't believe the game was only half done.
http://shmuplations.com/aliensoldier/
http://shmuplations.com/aliensoldier/
My favorite is probably the original N64 Sin and Punishment. 2 is more refined, but I like being able to finish the first one so quickly and have a huge soft spot for the first game's hilarious pacing. I sorta have more fun not being able to fly around as much as I want too, the groundedness of the gameplay is still pretty unique for that kind of rail shooter. Also, the airship raid stage is probably the best thing to come out of any shooter, period.
Second place probably goes specifically to the 3DS port of Gunstar Heroes because even if quick weapon/stance switching breaks the game, it makes it easier to just kinda casually run through some of the harder difficulties. Stance switching feels like it should have been in the game from the start, really.
Having looked at it for the first time recently, the biggest letdown for me is probably Silhouette Mirage. It's easily got some of Treasure's most beautiful and fun setpieces, but they're held back by game mechanics that do nothing but get in the way of actually fighting enemies while making you grind repeatedly.
Second place probably goes specifically to the 3DS port of Gunstar Heroes because even if quick weapon/stance switching breaks the game, it makes it easier to just kinda casually run through some of the harder difficulties. Stance switching feels like it should have been in the game from the start, really.
Having looked at it for the first time recently, the biggest letdown for me is probably Silhouette Mirage. It's easily got some of Treasure's most beautiful and fun setpieces, but they're held back by game mechanics that do nothing but get in the way of actually fighting enemies while making you grind repeatedly.
you got me
ikaruga is a good time. not transcendent, or the best shooter ever as some crazies around here would claim, but it's decent enough.
rsg...i'd put it down at the bottom of the barrel with stuff like silhouette, easily. all the pretty cutscenes and cool music won't make me go near that dumpster fire of a scoring system. the best i can say about it is that it is stylish and functional...but it's definitely not fun
big treasure fan, definition of a 7.2 that's a 9.4, fi you know what I mean.
BTW You have the right series, but wrong game. One of my few import games, but it was so good on the n64
thepenguin55
Member
Yuke Yuke Troublemakers is the best! It was also my first Treasure game as I was a Nintendo kid growing up.
Thanks for posting this. I'm a little dissapointed that they toned down the difficulty but to think they were only halfway done with the game is insane. I mean is has over 30 bosses already and it's all quality stuff
Yuke Yuke Troublemakers is the best! It was also my first Treasure game as I was a Nintendo kid growing up.
Shake Shake!
jwillenn
Member
Ikaruga is my favorite, but I own all of Treasure's masterpieces, plus some that were not.
And yeah, I always cite S&P2 (along with Trauma Center and some others) when trying to explain to fools (kidding) why a remodeled Wiimote & Chuk should be the standard NX (and everything else) controller.
edit:
Tell me about it. I only did a standard run through the game when I was thirsty for the score attack from the moment the game was announced. I don't remember what was going on at the time that kept me from getting this going. Of all games that I really want to go back to for scoring, this is at the very top. I'm constantly reminding myself that I need to do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ree--2H3xg4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N-AmvWkBTo
And yeah, I always cite S&P2 (along with Trauma Center and some others) when trying to explain to fools (kidding) why a remodeled Wiimote & Chuk should be the standard NX (and everything else) controller.
edit:
Tell me about it. I only did a standard run through the game when I was thirsty for the score attack from the moment the game was announced. I don't remember what was going on at the time that kept me from getting this going. Of all games that I really want to go back to for scoring, this is at the very top. I'm constantly reminding myself that I need to do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ree--2H3xg4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N-AmvWkBTo
Soltype
Member
Yeah, it's nuts.We definitely need a sequel now.
BudokaiMR2
Member
Astroboy: Omega Factor - if you haven't played this, you should.
I honestly have a hard time choosing between this and S&P2.
But considering S&P2 should have made the entire industry go "Oh shit so THAT'S how you create a good wii control scheme!" I will give it the edge.
It's too bad that didn't happen.
Lumpy Onion
Member
Probably not their best overall but I liked the two Bleach fighting games they made for DS. Felt like a good use of the license and it played well and had good production values.
Sin and Punishment SS is my favorite though. I remember some of the bosses around the middle had you really paying attention to how you played. I remember the boss on the lake that could make copies/shadows of itself taking at least 20 tries. Overall the game had an exciting cinematic quality to it that was a joy to see unfold.
Sin and Punishment SS is my favorite though. I remember some of the bosses around the middle had you really paying attention to how you played. I remember the boss on the lake that could make copies/shadows of itself taking at least 20 tries. Overall the game had an exciting cinematic quality to it that was a joy to see unfold.
The Hermit
Member
I think I only played to end the Astro Boy game.
I tried both S&P but I sucked terribly at them.
Can I still get them from eShop?
Edit: I just realized I have eShop gunstar héroes but never played it
I tried both S&P but I sucked terribly at them.
Can I still get them from eShop?
Edit: I just realized I have eShop gunstar héroes but never played it
#1 is totally alien soldier. Treasure made that with love. That's evident in the 2 minute intro - 68000 heart on fire, duh.
The game the wanted to be their opus? Guardian Heroes. No other game embodies the "soul" of Treasure - fast action, lots of words, sprites, and cheesy music. Treasure *wanted* GH to be their Mona Lisa. Their flawed masterpiece, as someone said earlier.
The game the wanted to be their opus? Guardian Heroes. No other game embodies the "soul" of Treasure - fast action, lots of words, sprites, and cheesy music. Treasure *wanted* GH to be their Mona Lisa. Their flawed masterpiece, as someone said earlier.
mrmickfran
Member
Both Sin & Punishment games are available on eShop.I think I only played to end the Astro Boy game.
I tried both S&P but I sucked terribly at them.
Can I still get them from eShop?
Edit: I just realized I have eShop gunstar héroes but never played it
Also, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING, PLAY GUNSTAR HEROES
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
This thread reminded me that I still haven't played star successor. Gonna buy that right now.
My vote goes to Gunstar Heroes for the amazing co-op experience. Bangaioh on dreamcast and Gradius V may be after that. I enjoyed those more than their more well known shmups, but of course those are amazing too.
With treasure I feel like you can make a case for almost any of their titles being their best, they are all so damn good.
My vote goes to Gunstar Heroes for the amazing co-op experience. Bangaioh on dreamcast and Gradius V may be after that. I enjoyed those more than their more well known shmups, but of course those are amazing too.
With treasure I feel like you can make a case for almost any of their titles being their best, they are all so damn good.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Have a rotten day! Hahahahaha
What was the criticism for this game? I recall people didn't like it for some reason when it came out.
Zomba13
Member
HEEEEEELP MEEEEEEEE MARINAAAAAAA!
Gotta be Mischief Makers. *shake shake* Such a weird and unique platformer *shake shake* with weird characters and mechanics *shake shake* and some awesome bosses *shake shake* and that thing about getting gold crystals to get more time on the ending cutscene was a great incentive to really dig into levels *shake shake* also it looks super cool *shake shake* and has that weird olympic games/track and field segment *shake shake* and that cat!
Gotta be Mischief Makers. *shake shake* Such a weird and unique platformer *shake shake* with weird characters and mechanics *shake shake* and some awesome bosses *shake shake* and that thing about getting gold crystals to get more time on the ending cutscene was a great incentive to really dig into levels *shake shake* also it looks super cool *shake shake* and has that weird olympic games/track and field segment *shake shake* and that cat!
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Astroboy imo.
Spent ages on that game. So fun
Spent ages on that game. So fun
User123456
Member
Alien Soldier, definitely.
Sin and Punishment - Star Successor a close second.
Sin and Punishment - Star Successor a close second.
FF Seraphim
Member
God Treasure made some excellent games back in the day. It would have to be Gunstar Heroes or Guardian Heroes for me. Like how the two games are linked as well.
Yeah, Shake Shake is great. Mischief Makers is definitely my #1.Yuke Yuke Troublemakers is the best! It was also my first Treasure game as I was a Nintendo kid growing up.
Sin and Punishment: Star Successor is a close #2 though.
It still to this day remains Gunstar Heroes from what I've played. I've yet to play a 2D scrolling action game that comes close to it tbh. Gunstar Super Heroes is honestly probably the next-best thing though.
I really need to more Treasure games though. From what I've played I'd tier their stuff:
Phenomenal:
Gunstar Heroes
Great:
Guardian Heroes
Gunstar Super Heroes
Fairly good but flawed:
Wario World
Bleach: Dark Souls
Ikaruga
Decent I guess:
(Not really a Treasure game but kinda sorta one) Code of Princess
Sin and Punishment
Bad:
Dynamite Headdy
I really need to more Treasure games though. From what I've played I'd tier their stuff:
Phenomenal:
Gunstar Heroes
Great:
Guardian Heroes
Gunstar Super Heroes
Fairly good but flawed:
Wario World
Bleach: Dark Souls
Ikaruga
Decent I guess:
(Not really a Treasure game but kinda sorta one) Code of Princess
Sin and Punishment
Bad:
Dynamite Headdy
GalacticSushiman
Member
Thank you for posting this... A 'non poseur SHMUP fan' (god I hate the wording) is (IMHO) someone who's able to both appreciate the freshness and addictive nature of Ikaruga's design, and the absolute epicness and pure adrenalyne of a Battle Garrega/(insert cave shooter)...
I want to add this before this thread is totally dead.
(Ichigo is totally broken but Flash Step is such a fun mechanic.)
(Ichigo is totally broken but Flash Step is such a fun mechanic.)
Lionel Richie
Member
Absolutely, it's a terrific game all around. Most of the Treasure games are just flat out fantastic, I miss them so much.
It's so hard to name my favorite. I've played and loved most of their stuff, but the standouts for me are Radiant Silvergun, Ikaruga, Mischief Makers, Gunstar Heroes, and Guardian Heroes. But truthfully, I really enjoy every game I've ever played by them. Even Wario, despite its simplicity.
And the fact that I was able to appreciate the Bleach games without having ever watched the anime just shows how great of a developer they are (were?).
And the fact that I was able to appreciate the Bleach games without having ever watched the anime just shows how great of a developer they are (were?).
Naked Lunch
Member
Radiant Silvergun will forever be Treasure's magnum opus. Just a stunning work in all areas with boss patterns that are in a class of their own. That fact that there are dozens of bosses at that high quality level is unreal. The blue crystal part of the running man last boss will be forever etched in my brain.
Sin and Punishment 1 is really close too. Very skilled gameplay that allows for improvisation. The whole game just has this flow - once you get in the zone, its hard to put down. Infinitely replayable.
Sin and Punishment 1 is really close too. Very skilled gameplay that allows for improvisation. The whole game just has this flow - once you get in the zone, its hard to put down. Infinitely replayable.