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What is Treasure's best game?
- Thread starter mrmickfran
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It truly is incredible, one of my absolute favourite games that shows just how amazing the Wii remote and nunchuck combo could be when utilised properly.
Bangai-o Spirits (DS) is another standout title for me - bringing the game to an absolute standstill due to an excess of missiles on the screen never got old. Downloading user created levels through the console's microphone was also suitably ridiculous.
Bakkus
Member
Probably S&P 2 but that has a lot to do with me sucking haaaaaard at both Ikaruga and Gradius V, the rest of their games are pretty much all on my to do list (alongside like 100+ other games, yikes)
You don't own any GBA device, any DS device pre DSi, nor a GB Player for GameCube?
I will when SEGA gets off their ass and releases it on the eShop
You don't own any GBA device, any DS device pre DSi, nor a GB Player for GameCube?
Alien Soldier is my choice as well. Screen filling sprites, intricate battle mechanics, fantastic bosses.
I tried to like Gunstar Heroes, but never got into it. It's great from a technical perspective, but I don't find it particularly engaging.
Ikaruga also has an incredible amount of polish!
PassiveObserver
Member
Gradius V
OrbitalBeard
Member
Resident Evil 4 is the best action game ever made.
I love what an artistic and cohesive project Ikaruga is, but I've been on a PS2 kick lately, and I think Gradius V edges it out. Such an amazingly fun, tough, old school, modern STG.
Still need to play RS. I'll probably and up picking up a 360 just for that and Guardian Heroes.
Still need to play RS. I'll probably and up picking up a 360 just for that and Guardian Heroes.
mrmickfran
Member
OMG Same. I'm still stuck on like stage 3/4 on both games. Gradius V's second stage boss rush is nasty.
I have a DS-lite but its D-Pad is garbage, not in the mood to buy a GBA.
Neoleo2143
Member
1. Amazing and Clever Combat Mechanics? Check.
2. Lots of Unique Ways to Use that Combat without feeling like you're breaking the game? Check.
3. Incredibly Varied Encounter Design? Check.
4. Ashley? What's an Ashley?
5. Epic as Hell Upgrades? Check.
Yeah, I can roll with that.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
Alien Soldier and Sin and Punishment: Star Successor are godlike. From what I've played of Treasure's library, nothing else comes close.
It definitely feels bad if you end up in a situation like that, but you can avoid it by not picking a lineup of weapons that can run into a roadblock like that. Not something you can know the very first time you play the game, but you learn quickly enough that some weapons aren't as effective against all enemy types.
It definitely feels bad if you end up in a situation like that, but you can avoid it by not picking a lineup of weapons that can run into a roadblock like that. Not something you can know the very first time you play the game, but you learn quickly enough that some weapons aren't as effective against all enemy types.
Star Successor is one of my favorite games of all time, so I'd have to go with that. Sprsk hit the nail on the head with that description, so I don't have much to add.
Omega Factor is also incredible though. It's a really fun, dense, love letter to a creator and all of his characters, and it pulls it off perfectly.
Omega Factor is also incredible though. It's a really fun, dense, love letter to a creator and all of his characters, and it pulls it off perfectly.
Abstrusity
Member
My favorite is Ikaruga, but I'm a big fan of the sort of thing that happens at the end of that game. Mischief Makers was pretty ace, Gradius V was pretty damn awesome, too.
Ikaruga's music iswhat makes it better than Radiant Silvergun and Gradius V.
TheSadRanger
Banned
OT but I always wondered what that schmup Treasure was working on looked like that was supposed to be a 360 exclusive before MS pulled the funding on it ;_;
Supposedly it was over halfway through development before MS gave up on the Japanese market.
Supposedly it was over halfway through development before MS gave up on the Japanese market.
Neoleo2143
Member
Indeed, and it's freaking fantastic at that. Love Treasure's wacky and fun scoring systems.
Fug Slanderson
Member
Does Castlevania 4 count? Because, if so, that.
Probably a close call between Ikaruga and Alien Soldier. These games are masterpieces, even if Ikaruga was the subject of such insufferable grandstanding for a decade.
Gradius V is really good with a few small flaws. Both Sin & Punishment games are dope but I prefer arcade pacing and think they're a little too slow? But I haven't dug into Hard modes yet, and it's been a few years. Radiant Silvergun is an aesthetic triumph and maybe a great game, but I've talked about my distaste for power-ups being tied to score. It's neat, but the scoring doesn't seem particularly optional, and the dog hunts aren't very fun to me.
The Bangai-O series is solid, but I'm not a huge fan of the tiny stages structure and things get a little too samey as the series progresses. I think Gunstar Heroes is a pretty mediocre game: great aesthetics, lame stages, some cool bosses. I don't like Guardian Heroes much, either, with the guard mechanic and skeleton knight partner.
I find Treasure to be... well, I can't deny their top games, but they have such a hilariously overblown reputation. I don't think I'd put them on a top ten list of 2D action game developers.
Gradius V is really good with a few small flaws. Both Sin & Punishment games are dope but I prefer arcade pacing and think they're a little too slow? But I haven't dug into Hard modes yet, and it's been a few years. Radiant Silvergun is an aesthetic triumph and maybe a great game, but I've talked about my distaste for power-ups being tied to score. It's neat, but the scoring doesn't seem particularly optional, and the dog hunts aren't very fun to me.
The Bangai-O series is solid, but I'm not a huge fan of the tiny stages structure and things get a little too samey as the series progresses. I think Gunstar Heroes is a pretty mediocre game: great aesthetics, lame stages, some cool bosses. I don't like Guardian Heroes much, either, with the guard mechanic and skeleton knight partner.
I find Treasure to be... well, I can't deny their top games, but they have such a hilariously overblown reputation. I don't think I'd put them on a top ten list of 2D action game developers.
I'm gonna go with the unpopular choice of Mischief Makers, though I fully understand why someone would say Gunstar Heroes or Radiant Silvergun instead.
MIschief Makers is great fun in a regular playthrough, but transforms into something else when you start going for S ranks, which at times can seem almost impossible, but is very achievable with practice.
MIschief Makers is great fun in a regular playthrough, but transforms into something else when you start going for S ranks, which at times can seem almost impossible, but is very achievable with practice.
McBradders
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Undoubtedly Gunstar Heroes.
The unskippable cutscene early in stage 1 is pretty awful.
gunstarhero
Member
◕‿◕ Gunstar Heroes of course. Silhouette Mirage in 2nd, Guardian and Alien Soilder a close third.
Edit: forgot about Silhouette Mirage - LOVED that game on Saturn.
Edit: forgot about Silhouette Mirage - LOVED that game on Saturn.
breadtruck
Member
This is the correct answer
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
I didn't think we got this game in the states outside of the wii eshop. I also remember this game being hard as hell, even for a Treasure game.
Damn... This is such a tough question. They really pushed every aspect of game design as far as it would go. Each one of their best games have totally unconventional controls that stretch the player to master very interesting mechanics with hypnotic music, visuals and enemy patterns that are pretty much unrivaled in videogames. They're one of my favorite developers ever.
If pressed to select only one of their games as my favorite, I'd probably have to choose....this one:
If pressed to select only one of their games as my favorite, I'd probably have to choose....this one:
Pinko Marx
Banned
It was a sega channel exclusive.
GrantDaNasty
Member
I got a soft-spot in my heart for Astro Boy: Omega Factor.
That game is so fucking legit, but I think being on the GBA + franchise that was relatively unknown outside Japan might've caused a lot of people to overlook it.
That game is so fucking legit, but I think being on the GBA + franchise that was relatively unknown outside Japan might've caused a lot of people to overlook it.
natsuyasumi
Member
Gunstar Heroes. They peaked early for me. I submit that the game only had a single flaw: the inability to switch between free and fixed fire a la later Contra games. I would love a rom hack to add that.
Second maybe Astro Boy, though I find that harder to return to due to its length and level-up system.
Edit: Oh yeah, Gradius V is pretty great too.
Second maybe Astro Boy, though I find that harder to return to due to its length and level-up system.
Edit: Oh yeah, Gradius V is pretty great too.
Hello? This is Hailun!
Member
Move gradius v to number one and swap ikaruga with radiant and you have my list
ViewtifulJC
Banned
1. Sin & Punishment: Star Successor
2. Alien Soldier
3. Gradius V
4. Bangai-O Spirits
5. Ikaruga
6. Dynamite Headdy
7. Guardian Heroes
8. Gunstar Heroes
9. Miscief Makers (SHAKE SHAKE)
10. Astro Boy: Omega Factor
2. Alien Soldier
3. Gradius V
4. Bangai-O Spirits
5. Ikaruga
6. Dynamite Headdy
7. Guardian Heroes
8. Gunstar Heroes
9. Miscief Makers (SHAKE SHAKE)
10. Astro Boy: Omega Factor
RGamer2009
Neo Member
There needs to be more love for Wario World! Very underrated gem.
Have a rotten day! Hahahahaha
But yeah its Gunstar Heroes.
forknknife
Banned
Damn... This is such a tough question. They really pushed every aspect of game design as far as it would go. Each one of their best games have totally unconventional controls that stretch the player to master very interesting mechanics with hypnotic music, visuals and enemy patterns that are pretty much unrivaled in videogames. They're one of my favorite developers ever.
If pressed to select only one of their games as my favorite, I'd probably have to choose....this one:
Finally! I'm with you man, Bangai-O is a masterpiece.
Treasure is my favorite developer of all time though, so it's a tough choice.
gunstarhero
Member
2 pages and no mention of Silohuette Mirage?!?!!
Edit: fixed in my original post ;-)
Edit: fixed in my original post ;-)
mrmickfran
Member
So, I was thinking about getting a 360 just so i could finally play the 360 Treasure titles as well as a few other games.
Worth it?
Worth it?
DarknessTear
Banned
Mischief Makers?
MadOdorMachine
No additional functions
What happened to Treasure? They made some of my favorite games and I was hoping to see something from them, but they seem to have fallen off.
As far as the topic goes, I found out about them early in the Gamecube era. S&P is the only import game I own and one of the reasons I still have my N64 hooked up. Also, the Gamecube along with the Gameboy Player is my favorite Nintendo generation. Combined, they had a fantastic library of what I consider to be some of the best 2D and 3D games ever made. Treasure was a big part of that. Now I'm wax nostalgic thinking about. Their name really is fitting isn't it? My favorite games by them are:
Sin and Punishment (N64)
Ikaruga (GC)
Gunstar Super Heroes (GBA)
Astroboy (GBA)
Gradius V (PS2)
Sin and Punishment: Star Successor (Wii)
As far as the topic goes, I found out about them early in the Gamecube era. S&P is the only import game I own and one of the reasons I still have my N64 hooked up. Also, the Gamecube along with the Gameboy Player is my favorite Nintendo generation. Combined, they had a fantastic library of what I consider to be some of the best 2D and 3D games ever made. Treasure was a big part of that. Now I'm wax nostalgic thinking about. Their name really is fitting isn't it? My favorite games by them are:
Sin and Punishment (N64)
Ikaruga (GC)
Gunstar Super Heroes (GBA)
Astroboy (GBA)
Gradius V (PS2)
Sin and Punishment: Star Successor (Wii)
I've heard that some people left, which would be huge blow to such a tiny company.