https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcai...marvel-and-for-superhero-movies/#2dba96fa1672
I liked it about the same as Wonder Woman.
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What 'Spider-Man's 73% Fri-to-Fri Fall Means For Sony, Marvel, And other Cape films
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcai...marvel-and-for-superhero-movies/#2dba96fa1672
I liked it about the same as Wonder Woman.
HeartlessNobody213
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A little bit of Spidey fatigue and probably the competition is what I think happened.
Guardians and Wonder Woman benefited from not having that much competition and Wonder Woman, besides being something new is a pretty good movie.
Guardians and Wonder Woman benefited from not having that much competition and Wonder Woman, besides being something new is a pretty good movie.
Garou
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First of all: Forbes Contributor, might as well read any random blog.
Secondly: If the drop is big, one might turn this around and think of the first week having been over-acheiveing. Anyway, A2 and CA3 performed worse in this metric und ultimately nobody was disappointed with those.
Secondly: If the drop is big, one might turn this around and think of the first week having been over-acheiveing. Anyway, A2 and CA3 performed worse in this metric und ultimately nobody was disappointed with those.
What did he mean by this?
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Weird article since they say themselves Marvels biggest films had worse drops
WW had way more competition
WW had way more competition
Did gameproff write this article
Lol
Duane Cunningham
Member
Yeah, unfortunately Spider-Man lost the War
for the Planet of the Apes
People definitely considered their legs disappointing.
Fancyarcher
Member
What a random article. Spider-Man: Homecoming is going to be huge worldwide, and will make more then the Amazing Spider-Man films. Yes the second weekend drop is a bit poor, but it's not like it's a mega bomb or something.
Wow, they're in real trouble if they're doing just better in terms of drop off relative to that $1.1 billion that Civil War brought in.
I'm going to make a wild prediction and say that fatigue will set in and Marvel's moneyhatting coffers will dry up in the next 10 minutes!
I'm going to make a wild prediction and say that fatigue will set in and Marvel's moneyhatting coffers will dry up in the next 10 minutes!
Kill Your Masters
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Weren't both very successful in the end?
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Mediocre competition.
Fox Mulder
Member
It's all over. Time to sell Marvel.
VeryGooster
Banned
Give the Marvel rights back to Sony
I doubt it was the movie itself. If I truly was a Marvel or Sony exec I would see this coming with it being the first Spidey standalone since AS2 AND putting it up in the middle of Summer.
Domestically and critically it'll probably be close to Winger Soldier which is seen as a top MCU film. There's really nothing to worry about.
Domestically and critically it'll probably be close to Winger Soldier which is seen as a top MCU film. There's really nothing to worry about.
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Saint Titanfall
Wonder woman has great legs, the new Spiderman film has awful legs, what a summer, shocking stuff left and right.
People are desensitized a bit. If this was the first Spidey movie ever then it would have done bonkers. This is essentially the 6th Spider Man film in the franchise. Had Sony been more reponsible with the property maybe it would have done better.
I have a friend who even thinks this is Spider Man 6 had to break it down.
I have a friend who even thinks this is Spider Man 6 had to break it down.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Nintendo is doomed. Let's just cancel the MCU. And Star Wars while we're at it.
Unless... Wait. Maybe James Wan's James Cameron's Aquaman will redeem Stan Lee next year.
Unless... Wait. Maybe James Wan's James Cameron's Aquaman will redeem Stan Lee next year.
kunonabi
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Pretty sure AoU was considered a disappointment which is why there were some internal changes made afterwards.
Fancyarcher
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TOM HOLLAND IS A NATIONAL TREASURE
He's British though, lol.
Still mostly had poor legs. Poor WOM already kicked in on opening weekend, didn't help that it was hyped to hell, and failed to deliver on expectations.
That wasn't because of AOU though. That was to demote Perlmutter who was causing a ruckus / stalling when it came to certain films getting made like Black Panther & Captain Marvel.
HeartlessNobody213
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I disagree. Pirates came out the week before and hasn't done well domestically for a long time.
Captain Underpants doesn't have that big of a brand recognition.
The Mummy looked like a bomb from the start.
I guess Cars 3 but those aren't the most popular Pixar movies.
Transformers is in the same situation as Pirates.
I don't think any of those films are comparable to being in between Despicable Me 3 and Apes 3.
To be clear, I'm not trying to take anything from WW as I really enjoyed the movie but I don't think the competition was on the same level.
ZeroTheShadow
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Movie sucked, not surprised.
I'll let this pass because that last bit is clever
MugiwaraCole
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Maybe critically, it made a billion dollars.
But this article is clearly implying it dropped 73%. Is it being front loaded a good thing? If it can't sustain success doesn't the $117 show a good launch but bad sustainability. Don't you want the movie to keep doing good?
Honestly why did Sony not wait on the Garfield take. Those movies felt like throw stuff against a wall and see what sticks. The swinging and suit were cool though.
I don't think you can blame Apes for that big of a drop. ANd not sure how a future movie can also be blamed. It was just a front loaded cbm. I would say it's spidey fatigue. The fans showed up opening weekend but the rest just aren't as interested as we thought.
The Statue of Liberty is French.
MY HOLLAND TIS OF THEE
SWEET SPIDER'S LIBERTY
OF THEE I THWIP
Dunkirk isn't out yet.
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Saint Titanfall
This is all very retroactive points. Apes isn't some massive competition be real now, Transformers unexpectedly underperformed massively, same with pirates.
Spiderman has Apes Dunkirk and freaking vlerian as nearby competition, lets not kid ourselves Wonder woman would have kicked just as much ass under those cirmsumstances.
People have been inundated with shit spiderman films for awhile now. I think the big opening weekend had a lot to do with the people that understood this was now a Marvel movie, with the drop off reflective of the general public being burnt too many times by the property in recent years. A sequel will do well as the goodwill is being rebuilt. There will be a lot of "the last one was actually really good."
And he is pretty super by ape standards...
gundamkyoukai
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Bobby Roberts
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Rob Cain needs to leave the Box Office stuff to Scott Mendelsson over at Forbes.
This drop doesn't mean anything out of the ordinary.
This drop doesn't mean anything out of the ordinary.
longdi
Banned
I think people are growing tired of standalone marvel films.
I certainly am, haven't watch Homecoming yet. The last i watched was Gotg2, while fun, felt too much the samey marvel formula. Unless they start doing more crossover and more IW development, i dont really care about new heroes like Dr Strange, Black Panther, milking the MCU..
I certainly am, haven't watch Homecoming yet. The last i watched was Gotg2, while fun, felt too much the samey marvel formula. Unless they start doing more crossover and more IW development, i dont really care about new heroes like Dr Strange, Black Panther, milking the MCU..
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