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What 'Spider-Man's 73% Fri-to-Fri Fall Means For Sony, Marvel, And other Cape films
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broncobuster
Banned
Realistically, it doesn't mean much.
But if we're exaggerating, Parker's time is DONE. Time to reboot it again with Miguel O'Hara in the spotlight.
But if we're exaggerating, Parker's time is DONE. Time to reboot it again with Miguel O'Hara in the spotlight.
Even if the movie is good, different from the previous movies in a lot of significant ways, and part of the MCU and featuring Iron Man, being the second reboot in five years, and coming after three bad movies with SM3, ASM1 and ASM2 will have had an effect. If Transformers and PotC can suffer from fatigue, so can Spider-Man.
I'm sure even if the movie was a cinematic masterpiece, it would still have suffered, though maybe to a lesser extent.
Edit: Just saw kwis' post. Seems like it'll do fine after all.
I'm sure even if the movie was a cinematic masterpiece, it would still have suffered, though maybe to a lesser extent.
Edit: Just saw kwis' post. Seems like it'll do fine after all.
Didn't you know a movie with a sensible villain with actual motivations that didn't revolve around big time shit was a standard cbm thing?
Vampirolol
Member
I think this may be the right time for another reboot. Amy Pascal to write and direct it, Shia Labeouf as Spidy, Charlie Sheen as Kraven and Pewdiepie as Harry Osborn. 4 hours flick with lots of slowmo, jump cuts and cranes. Thousands of cranes.
I think Spider-Man is fine at Sony and things are looking good in the future. Sony and Marvel are together in pushing Spider-Man on a variety of fronts besides the MCU and Sony Spidey films. I'm not even just talking about the Venom or other spiderverse spin offs but the PS4 game from Insomniac.
That looks pretty damn good to me and is only a small snippet of a game a still a year out or there abouts. It looks strong on all fronts and will only help in building the Spidey brand further. Hell the game could be bigger than the movie as there has been a severe glut of AAA super hero games out there outside of the Arkham games and we haven't gotten a great Spider-Man great in even longer.
That looks pretty damn good to me and is only a small snippet of a game a still a year out or there abouts. It looks strong on all fronts and will only help in building the Spidey brand further. Hell the game could be bigger than the movie as there has been a severe glut of AAA super hero games out there outside of the Arkham games and we haven't gotten a great Spider-Man great in even longer.
Yeah, EVERY blockbuster has a big FRI-FRI dropoff, since the 2nd Friday is being compared to two days combined. Non-issue.
They've been evolving, MCU phase 1 is completely different than MCU phase 3.
And then X Men 2 happened.
serenewarfare
Banned
Guys I'm gonna make another post linking to my own blog about why this is all okay and Spider-Man is doing fine.
Obliterator
Member
Just wait for when the first "Rotten" Marvel film on RT drops.
There's people that have been waiting a long time to let out some pent up energy
MugiwaraCole
Member
People reeeeeally wanna believe this movie is a failure lol. And that Apes isn't very decent competition.
Anyways, Logan has been mentioned. Here's my stop.
Anyways, Logan has been mentioned. Here's my stop.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
All right, I'm okay with this.
This was Tom Rothman's goal all along ever since X-Men in 2000.
#itsallpartoftheplan
They still follow either the standard "Save the Cat!" pacing or the inversion. They've just been packaging it slightly different with each film. Deadpool and Logan were good deconstructions of the genre but we really need something else to push it forward. The problem is pushing forward a genre is risky and no studio wants to take a risk with a 300 million dollar project after production and advertising.
I'm not saying they aren't fun, they usually are, just they could be much more.
Save the Laura!
Like, you can reduce anything when you talk about a movie's narrative like that.
I'm praying for Thor as we speak.
Um, yeah? People do budget. I won't see Apes until later because I'm planning on seeing Dunkirk in IMAX.
Ocarina_117
Banned
So did apes do very well at B.O?
Remember the odd post mentioning Spiderman would eat into It's competition this summer (namely in the apes review thread). Personally, I'm expecting Dunkirk to be the big summer movie.
Remember the odd post mentioning Spiderman would eat into It's competition this summer (namely in the apes review thread). Personally, I'm expecting Dunkirk to be the big summer movie.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Answer: Jack shit.
Not really, Handmaiden, Fury Road, Even Baby Driver avoided the save the cat formula.
Don't know but will say Apes is the bet hero film all year. For me at least.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
YUP.
And who's in here thinking Ragnarok is gonna be the studio's first "rotten" film?
That thing is going to be probably top 3, critically, when the dust clears.
Fancyarcher
Member
God bless Tom Holland!
When people talk about legs for a film, they usually use the opening weekend multiplier as a quick and dirty yardstick.
If a film opens to $100M and makes $300M domestic, it has an OW multiplier of 3x. A film with that run would be viewed to have better legs than something that opened to $150M and made $300M. Both had the same final gross, but the first film only made 33% of that in its opening weekend, vs 50% for the second film.
Here's the second weekend percentage drops, and 10-day OW multipliers for all Marvel DC films from 2016 and 2017
Other than Wonder Woman's phenomenal run, nothing else is fairing all that much better than Spider-Man. Summer Weekdays compensate for the smaller weekends.
When Homecoming finishes its run, it won't be particularly front-loaded for a comic film.
If a film opens to $100M and makes $300M domestic, it has an OW multiplier of 3x. A film with that run would be viewed to have better legs than something that opened to $150M and made $300M. Both had the same final gross, but the first film only made 33% of that in its opening weekend, vs 50% for the second film.
Here's the second weekend percentage drops, and 10-day OW multipliers for all Marvel DC films from 2016 and 2017
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TITLE 2nd Weekend Drop 10-day OW Multiplier
Deadpool 57% 1.79x
Batman v Superman 69% 1.57x
Civil War 60% 1.65x
X-Men Apocalypse 64% 1.79x
Suicide Squad 67% 1.66x
Doctor Strange 50% 1.80x
Logan 57% 1.73x
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 56% 1.70x
Wonder Woman 43% 2.00x
Spider-Man Homecoming 61% 1.78xOther than Wonder Woman's phenomenal run, nothing else is fairing all that much better than Spider-Man. Summer Weekdays compensate for the smaller weekends.
When Homecoming finishes its run, it won't be particularly front-loaded for a comic film.
Considering how a mediocre a movie as Wonder Woman is holding up so well, Marvel Studios really should have accelerated Captain Marvel instead of doing fucking Ant Man or Doctor Strange.
But yeah, the OP cites a Forbes Contributer article, which is about as worthless as any other blog post.
But yeah, the OP cites a Forbes Contributer article, which is about as worthless as any other blog post.
Violence Jack
Member
It doesn't mean anything. It's already surpassed ASM2 in 2 weeks. If anything, people just didn't want to see another Spiderman film so quickly, but the fact that it isn't an origin store, and it being really good is what elevated it over ASM.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
Probably due to lackluster word of mouth. Unless you're a super fan of comics or MCU, I never saw that high of praise for the movie. The movie isn't bad, it's just not as good of an adventure as some want you to believe.
I'd say coming up on about a decade of full universe continuity has done plenty to push the genre forward and was honestly the shot in the arm that comic book movies needed. movies like Avengers and Civil War were huge and they did a lot to bring the DNA of comic books to the big screen in a way that hadn't really been done prior. the Infinity War movies seem like another huge event for the MCU.
If Thor: The Dark World could be fresh with 66%, then no MCU movie may ever be rotten.
Obliterator
Member
kswis, there is no need for logic. Its time for knee jerk articles and reactions.
Gentleman Jack
Member
Next time on "Forbes, come get your boy": "What 'Thor: Ragnarok's' 12% Fri-to-Fri RT Audience Score drop means for Sony, Marvel, and the US 2018 Midterm Elections."
Bobby, sometimes I see your posts and I'm like, "Why I oughta."
Then I see posts like this and I'm like
Ragnarok going to destroy.
UnemployedVillain
Member
Maybe it because we've seen 5 Spiderman movies, comprising of 2 rebooted over a relatively short amount of time and there's some franchise fatigue?
Why would it be? Everything about it looks significantly better than the previous Thor movies and it they weren't "rotten" I don't see why it would be
Why would it be? Everything about it looks significantly better than the previous Thor movies and it they weren't "rotten" I don't see why it would be
It's going to be the most critically acclaimed cape movie of all time, period.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Unspeakable Evil
Member
It's almost like everyone who really wants to see a movie sees it in the first weekend
Vincent Alexander
Member
I told all my friends to wait for DVD, so I am with you on that.
Gentleman Jack
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George Oscar Bluth II
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