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What 'Spider-Man's 73% Fri-to-Fri Fall Means For Sony, Marvel, And other Cape films
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Obliterator
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Marvel's real test will be how they handle the transition from the current roster of Avengers / Thanos build up, to whatever the overarching theme for the next round of the MCU is. It will be interesting if they will be able to keep interest levels's the same once we move on from Cap, Thor, Iron-Man, etc.
Linkstrikesback
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Gentleman Jack
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Not until the end of August or early September most likely.
China didn't like seeing that Hollywood films were thoroughly beating out their domestic films this year, so they brought back the summer protection period. Despicable Me 3 was the last foreign film cleared for release until mid August.
I said this in last week's box office thread, but the only sequels, reboots, or relaunches to make more than their predecessors in the domestic box office this year were Logan, GotG2, John Wick 2, and Spider-Man Homecoming. Everything else is down.
People have been calling for Dunkirk to be Nolan's first financial disappointment. And it's a WW2 movie about a little known evacuation in France involving the British. No one is skipping out on Homecoming to see that movie
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Bits N Pieces
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Too many reboots in a relatively short period of time has lessened the hype for Spider-Man going by who went to see it out of my friends and colleagues.
Bobby Roberts
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This isn't really how the Box Office threads go at all, though.
This is what happens when Box Office talk escapes those threads and gets spilled all over Off-Topic like a truck full of eels.
It's not box office GAF. It's a Marvel thread.
PhoncipleBone
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I understood that reference.
It's a comic book movie thread. It happens in DC threads too.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Nah, proper Box Office-GAF is much better than this.
The people in these threads are hop-ons.
DarkLordMalik
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I just don't see Black Panther being the same breakout success as Guardians of the Galaxy or Wonder Woman. Sorry.
Could be that people have been yearning for a WW movie since she haven't had her own solo outing yet, plus wanting a female lead superhero movie. And it happens to be great, so that is definitely helping.
Spiderman have been rebooted twice in a relatively short period of time. Audiences definitely notices that.
I hope Blank Panther follows a similar success as WW.
Spiderman have been rebooted twice in a relatively short period of time. Audiences definitely notices that.
I hope Blank Panther follows a similar success as WW.
Ding ding ding.
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Here's what's coming out mear BP: Pacific Rim 2, A Wrinkle in Time, Tomb Raider
Those movies fall a few weeks after BP
NipplesAndToes23
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Spider-Man doesn't wear a cape though.
Bobby Roberts
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We're talking about Black Panther's potential in the actual Box Office thread quite a bit, if you guys curious about that wanna swing over
But basically:
It's opening really wide w/ no real competition for about a month
The talent behind & in front of the camera is fuckin' nuts
It's wholly unique as a Superhero film
Those three things are going to be very big factors. Don't look at other Marvel movies (although the insurance of that big red brand being right up front can't be discounted) look at February results from previous years. Look at the month's breakouts, look what they did, and look at what those breakouts have in common with Black Panther.
For example: Deadpool broke out largely because there were passionate people behind and in front of the camera, they were careful in how they did what they did, they presented something new and interesting that audiences hadn't seen before, they sold it well, and nothing was in its way for a very long time, so the word of mouth floated it more than it otherwise might have.
Now think about how that could apply to Black Panther, directed by Ryan Coogler, starring that ridiculously stacked cast, opening during Black History month with a much less restrictive rating, with Marvel putting their full weight behind the thing.
You really think using Doctor Strange as the measuring stick is the best call there?
But basically:
It's opening really wide w/ no real competition for about a month
The talent behind & in front of the camera is fuckin' nuts
It's wholly unique as a Superhero film
Those three things are going to be very big factors. Don't look at other Marvel movies (although the insurance of that big red brand being right up front can't be discounted) look at February results from previous years. Look at the month's breakouts, look what they did, and look at what those breakouts have in common with Black Panther.
For example: Deadpool broke out largely because there were passionate people behind and in front of the camera, they were careful in how they did what they did, they presented something new and interesting that audiences hadn't seen before, they sold it well, and nothing was in its way for a very long time, so the word of mouth floated it more than it otherwise might have.
Now think about how that could apply to Black Panther, directed by Ryan Coogler, starring that ridiculously stacked cast, opening during Black History month with a much less restrictive rating, with Marvel putting their full weight behind the thing.
You really think using Doctor Strange as the measuring stick is the best call there?
I'm positive the..exact..opposite..happened...
Sibersk Esto
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It was actually the opposite of that.
Bobby Roberts
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Apes didn't do well enough to explain this drop, I don't think.
The movie's massive drop would suggest otherwise? Or am I missing something.
yeah that last part
Bobby Roberts
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And 61.4% weekend-to-weekend isnt' really a massive drop. It's not a great one, but 55-60% weekend-to-weekend drops arent' out of the ordinary at all, really.
Eh, I'd say it might be the weather too. Ridiculously nice weather pretty much nation wide. People wanna be chilling outside not in the theater.
Flying0Dutchman
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hopefully this means we finally reached a point of super hero fatigue...
We haven't. The movie is doing great.
But honestly, I understand how hard it must be for you, being forced to go to the theater and see them. I can't imagine how annoying that is.
I mean yeah it was acclaimed by critics, thus the massive opening weekend. But I'm not seeing a lot of buzz afterwards. Unlike Wonder Woman who had a lot of positive buzz from fans and did pretty well after opening weekend. Seeing the opposite of that here for Spider-Man.
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Obliterator
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The Age of Marvel is finished
Marvel movies don't have that buzz because people expect them to be good, Wonder Woman was expected to be shit, so it had a lot of people talking because it was actually good. Guardians 2 was reviewed great by fans and critics, and even lower than Homecoming, but it didn't have a ton of buzz around how good it was because the first one was good already.
Dreams-Visions
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Guess it's time to sell my shares.
oh hey I have that comic in a box somewhere. I only remember it because the red around the sides is in a metallic finish.
oh hey I have that comic in a box somewhere. I only remember it because the red around the sides is in a metallic finish.
Pai Pai Master
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WTF is this fanfic article, no one at Sony is pulling their hair out about one of their most successful movies in years
It's unfair to compare everything to Wonder Woman's run, which was record breaking and surprising.
As has been pointed out, this is not some massive unheard of drop. It dropped 61% from weekend to weekend. A little more than Sony would have liked but it's still doing great.
Fans loved this movie. It will forever be in the discussion of "Which is the best Spider-Man? 2 or Homecoming?"
MugiwaraCole
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Black folks are going to propel that movie to an insane amount of fucking success, and I cannot wait.
This is pure clickbait. The internet hot takes are unsufferable for both Marvel and DC.
Oh the irony.
Not even close.
Spider-Man is surrounded by quite a few good flicks.
MagnaderAlpha
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People fall too easy to the "doom and gloom" mentality. I think it's more what others in this thread have stated, there's a BIG movie coming out each week, they are going to cut into each others earnings. People like seeing lots of different BIG MOVIES, so they are going to do so. If studios wanted to spread out their releases, they should've considered releasing these movies farther apart, rather than the "dick measuring contest" of "My movie's sooooooo much better, It can hold up agianst _! Bring it on!!!"
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