That's where this ends for me.
It's a great game when taken on its own which is all that matters.
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Why am I enjoying DMC (Devil May Cry) ?
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It's a great game when taken on its own which is all that matters.
JehutyRunner
Banned
One and done.
Jangowuzhere
Banned
The story is about taking down an evil demon CEO who has managed to enslave the human race with soda.
It's not in your face and always over the top like the previous games, but that doesn't make it tonally serious.
I think the issue here might be one of premise vs. script. I personally don't mind the premise at all. But those lines man. It's a new low even for light hearted games like DMC
Stuff like
Kat being raped by her demon stepdad and Virgil shooting a pregnant woman
Jangowuzhere
Banned
Kat raped? When is that ever implied?
And the [demon] pregnant women thing was definitely not serious or tonally out of wack. That whole scenario was super ridiculous.
What lines exactly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSEBAukcHaU
Not like this
plasmawave
Banned
It was the whole backstory for Kat lol.
Jangowuzhere
Banned
That stuff is great, and what exactly is serious about that scene?
Earthpainting
Member
The gameplay itself was mostly fine. Some people were bothered by the streamlining and colour-coding, I was more than ok with that. Since tried to draw your attention to the aesthetics, guiding your eyes seemed like a sensible compromise. I wasn't a fan of the QTE chase sequences that were popular at the time. It's probably my fault, because I seem to be terrible at a decent chunk of these. I get into situations where I'm expected to do something on a time limit, and I'm trapped in a death-loop because I have no clue what I'm supposed to do/what I'm doing wrong. If I don't quit out-right, it usually takes me a Youtube trip to figure out how to pass it.
The other thing I just don't like about the game, was its atrocious writing and tone. To me it came off as a Best-Value store brand Robert Rodriguez story. Almost everyone in the game is abrasive and utterly unlikeable, there's all sorts of froggy misogynist stuff, but it's all drenched in sort-of-irony-but-not-really just in case. In all of its juvenile awfulness, it also manages to inject some of the least subtle social commentary you'll encounter in your lifetime. All of its concepts are incredibly basic and never get developed, but they still felt the need to constantly clarify everything with massive words that pop into the game world. The soft drink stage would say stuff like UNHEALTHY, IMPOTENT, OBESITY, the news stage would go CONTROL, LIES, etc. Video games often have bad, lowest-common-denominator writing, but I genuinely think this game lowered the bar. It was the first time I thought something was written for stupid people.
The other thing I just don't like about the game, was its atrocious writing and tone. To me it came off as a Best-Value store brand Robert Rodriguez story. Almost everyone in the game is abrasive and utterly unlikeable, there's all sorts of froggy misogynist stuff, but it's all drenched in sort-of-irony-but-not-really just in case. In all of its juvenile awfulness, it also manages to inject some of the least subtle social commentary you'll encounter in your lifetime. All of its concepts are incredibly basic and never get developed, but they still felt the need to constantly clarify everything with massive words that pop into the game world. The soft drink stage would say stuff like UNHEALTHY, IMPOTENT, OBESITY, the news stage would go CONTROL, LIES, etc. Video games often have bad, lowest-common-denominator writing, but I genuinely think this game lowered the bar. It was the first time I thought something was written for stupid people.
endlessflood
Member
I'm not sure why people get so hung up over a name that they just can't see beyond that.
I know that the name sets an expectation, and it would be shitty if they made the game out to be a certain thing, and then pulled the rug out from gamers unexpectedly. But in the case of DmC, it was very clear what the game was going to be right form the get go: they didn't 'hide' any of the changes, they put them out there from the time of the first trailer. And IMHO, it's a very good game. I think I probably enjoyed it more than DMC2 and DMC4, but maybe not as much as DMC1 and definitely not as much as DMC3. That said, I've enjoyed all of the DMC/DmC games.
This 'name' fixation isn't limited to just DMC games either. Hitman: Absolution and Syndicate (2012) both suffered the same backlash, despite both being great games IMHO (and I say that as somebody who really enjoys both of those game series). I don't mind if devs/publishers want to change up a formula slightly (rather than putting out the same damn game every few years), provided the final product is good. When someone says "this game would have been good with a different name", then to me that simply says that the game is good. That's what I'm looking for from a game
Jangowuzhere
Banned
I'm not sure why people get so hung up over a name that they just can't see beyond that.
I know that the name sets an expectation, and it would be shitty if they made the game out to be a certain thing, and then pulled the rug out from gamers unexpectedly. But in the case of DmC, it was very clear what the game was going to be right form the get go: they didn't 'hide' any of the changes, they put them out there from the time of the first trailer. And IMHO, it's a very good game. I think I probably enjoyed it more than DMC2 and DMC4, but maybe not as much as DMC1 and definitely not as much as DMC3. That said, I've enjoyed all of the DMC/DmC games.
This 'name' fixation isn't limited to just DMC games either. Hitman: Absolution and Syndicate (2012) both suffered the same backlash, despite both being great games IMHO (and I say that as somebody who really enjoys both of those game series). I don't mind if devs/publishers want to change up a formula slightly (rather than putting out the same damn game every few years), provided the final product is good. When someone says "this game would have been good with a different name", then to me that simply says that the game is good. That's what I'm looking for from a game
Agree 100% percent
People get so hung up on games like DmC, BoTW, MGSV, RE4, Banjo N&B, etc. for not being all that similar to their previous games. In the end, it doesn't matter, these games are all brilliant and successful at what they tried to achieve. They simply took the spirit of the previous games and did something fresh with it. I always appreciate a game that does this and manages to pull it off.
Joelstinton14
Member
It's a very good game. If you enjoy it, you enjoy it! I hope we get a sequel sometime soon.
There is a weird obsession on gaf where people need a consensus ... i guess to feel validated. I always get confused with the Can we all agree threads.
There is a weird obsession on gaf where people need a consensus ... i guess to feel validated. I always get confused with the Can we all agree threads.
Pretty much this.
Hell yes.
And the Character is hated based on the first reveal. The actual game is a masterpiece.
It's the best western character action game and a top 10 in the genre so of course.
The only sin of the western versions of classic franchises (DmC, Castlevania) was that their parent companies promoted hem as REPLACEMENTS instead of ALTERNATIVES so they suffered fanboy rage. All they BOTH had to do was say "Here it's DmC/Lords of Shadow, there's also DMC5/Symphony of the Night 11 coming, enjoy!". That was it.
We missed some great series.
The only sin of the western versions of classic franchises (DmC, Castlevania) was that their parent companies promoted hem as REPLACEMENTS instead of ALTERNATIVES so they suffered fanboy rage. All they BOTH had to do was say "Here it's DmC/Lords of Shadow, there's also DMC5/Symphony of the Night 11 coming, enjoy!". That was it.
We missed some great series.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
DMC is awesome. I don't care what the haters have to say.
Being promoted as a replacement for the original CV was the least of Lords of Shadow faults, especially the second game, I've yet to meat a single soul that actually liked it!
THIS ! and the contrary is also true.
I found Titanfall 2 to be generic garbage when it's been hyped up on GAF.
And DmC has one of my favorite OSTs ever. But this is very subjective and I get why you could hate it.
There was a thread about it last week, there were a few! And I hate/like it myself, like, it could have been so much more and is so flawed, but damn me if I don't geek out in the castle parts and the prologue or everything after meeting Victor.
The PR disaster of "forget everything you know about..." poisoned the well, made a very vocal majority of the fanbases voice their hate at every turn, which in turn turned off the mainstream audience. LoS 1 did very well, but then MoF cemented the hate wave (granted, it was not a great game, but it wasn't horrible). Then LoS2 got 3/10 and 4/10 which it doesn't really deserve.
But DmC is the most extreme case of PR provoked hate death. That's because the game is not good, it's /fantastic/, but they pissed off the fans of an untouchable, technical series. It should have been the "casual" version of DMC with DMC also releasing in a timely manner.
DyslexicAlucard
Member
Long story short, OP? Because you're an individual.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Pretty great scene imo
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
This is how you know not to take someone seriously. DMC2 is legitimately awful while DmC is okay at worst it's not perfect but it wasn't the horrible disappointment that was DMC2.
PaulExcellent
Member
The game is great! Not counting the story, of course.
The controls and combat flow really well. I wish other action games tried that structure.
The controls and combat flow really well. I wish other action games tried that structure.
"Kinda bad" is a bit of an understatement.
giancarlo123x
Banned
Yup. The annoying vocal minority on gaf can shit on it all day but it is indeed fun and no backtracking garbage.
What a joke of a post.
Traxtech
Member
As a kid I didn't mind it, couldn't bare it when I tried to go back to it to replay the series later in life that's for sure. Hence the kinda bad
humansarehorses
Member
The environmental art direction definitely isn't ass.
The club level is gorgeous.
LinkSlayer64
Member
Fun game, hilarious writing.
Pyramid head
Banned
"They did things to me. At night. I don't want to talk about it..."
Or words to that effect.
It wasn't exactly subtle, were you paying any attention?
breadtruck
Member
You let the GAF snobs tell you what you should like. They will tell you what movies you should hate or love too, if you let them. Think for yourself!
But yeah, DMC was a ton of fun, and I thought new-Dante was a pretty cool refresh of the character.
katsubento
Member
I didn't like it, but if you do, play it man! The heck with what others think. Everyone has their own tastes.
NT was brought in for story and couldn't even do that right. They still have yet to make a great game.
Also the PR for this game was absolutely atrosius. You guys see how MVC:I is being handled. Now imagine the same thing but dragged out over years and the fan base being insulted. Some of you guys don't remember that and don't see why a bunch of people hate on this game.
Also the PR for this game was absolutely atrosius. You guys see how MVC:I is being handled. Now imagine the same thing but dragged out over years and the fan base being insulted. Some of you guys don't remember that and don't see why a bunch of people hate on this game.