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Wii Screen Shot Thread (56k no)
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KyanMehwulfe
Member
You can dig as a wolf in Zelda eh?
+50 to Potential Secrets... Mmmmm.
+50 to Potential Secrets... Mmmmm.
Logan Cano
Banned
PG2G said:
What don't you get??? The circle jerk over awfully crappy last gen game screens?? Yeah, I don't get it too
The best of these screens are as close to X360/PS3 as the PS2 is to GC/Xbox. Yes, graphics whores will consider this a crazy standpoint but to me it's 100% truth. I have an Xbox 360 (no HD TV) and the only times I really notice a clear improvement over Xbox is in Oblivion when there's a sunset in a fairly large area or something. Playing Call of Duty 2 and the demo of Prey I don't see much of a difference from Xbox/GC games.
Really, people claiming that these games look like shit are nothing more than trolls. (Who I suspect would never have bitched so much about the Wii's power had Nintendo not openly stated that they weren't focusing on it to begin with.)
Really, people claiming that these games look like shit are nothing more than trolls. (Who I suspect would never have bitched so much about the Wii's power had Nintendo not openly stated that they weren't focusing on it to begin with.)
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
KyanMehwulfe said:
i'm a sucker for this sort of thing.
k-kwehhh!!! ftmfw
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
PG2G said:
take any notions of folks saying "these shots look amazing" with a grain of salt; in a thread about wii, that inevitably means it's 30% "these shots really look phenomenal" and 70% "this game is going to be so damn fun."
Logan Cano
Banned
Jokeropia said:
Crazy talk. I'm hardly a troll, the graphics bar has been increased significantly and Wii's hardware isn't good enough. Simple as that. Of course, fanboys tend to justify and accept whatever their favorite company is doing, so they have adjusted their expectations, and now suddenly GCN graphics for the next 5 years are good, and worth circle jerking for.
As for yur other point, maybe the best Wii titles could compare to some of the very worst X360/PS3 titles, but not to the good looking titles. It's also painfully obvious this is GCN level hardware, so I don't get what you are talking about there either.
Logan Cano
Banned
PolyGone said:
Aren't you the guy that believes that there isn't a big difference between Wii visuals and X360/PS3?? I suppose criticizing isn't going to change anything at this point, but old hardware is old hardware. I don't see why anyone has to like just because Nintendo has gone "different" this time around.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
Logan Cano said:
i hope no one actually believes this, because it's not true.
but these games still look like a blast.
Jill Sandwich
the turds of Optimus Prime
SAMBA DE AMIGO SEGA YOU TARDS
Logan Cano
Banned
beelzebozo said:
I remember a thread where I discussed with him something like that, so it's not a surprise. Anyway, the games look...fun, but in terms of graphics, they are pretty bad. That's what I'm refering to.
Louminater
Banned
The lack of decent games is disturbing........ Espicially for a Nintendo system, I can't believe they didn't release more suprises (game-wise).
I'll get my Nintendo Wii once Zelda, Mario, and SSBB are all ready to go and when the system is down to at least $200.
I'll get my Nintendo Wii once Zelda, Mario, and SSBB are all ready to go and when the system is down to at least $200.
Jokeropia said:
Maybe not an average looking Xbox360 game, but then again, average Xbox360 games don't have the artstyles of the best looking Wii games. So I guess I'll agree with you there. But the best looking Wii games look leagues better than some of the crap that turned up at the 360 launch.
Logan Cano said:
Need For Speed Carbon on your precious 360/PS3 looks like a Wii game, that doesn't mean that I think FFXIII or MGS4 are possible on the wii. But I can see why you would take my opinion of EA's latest cross platform street racer completely out of context to serve your arguments.
On the other hand, I can honestly tell you that despite the fact Kameo might be technically superior to Zelda TP, Zelda TP still looks better in my opinion.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
Logan Cano said:
i disagree.
GoldenEye 007
Member
How is there a lack of "decent" games? Going by people that have played the games, it seems there are actually a number of potentially decent to good to great games coming... and that's just for launch. Plenty of hands-on reviews contradict the notion that only the obligatory Nintendo big franchises are worth playing.Louminater said:
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
To be fair, many of these screens are from games that really are ports of GC/PS2 level stuff, including Legend of Zelda. Answer this: what is the best looking game graphics-wise that we've seen so far in this thread? That's right--Super Mario Galaxy. Guess what. It was designed from the ground up on Wii hardware.
Virtually everything else you see started out on GC kits (or another platform) and have since been upgraded to wii-status. I think the people that are saying "hey these look great" really mean to say: "that actually looks great, considering that's a gamecube game." That simply must not be translated to "huh huh huh itz a gaymkube terboW!" because that's ridiculous. On the same note, the people out there using these screens to judge what the Wii is capable of are really just blatant trolls afraid of seeing their precious system of choice drown in the sales of hardware maybe half as powerful.
Both sides of this silly argument are being shortsighted. What none of the people debating here realize is this really is first-gen Wii software that are almost all ported from GC stuff on GC engines. Now go back and look at the progression of graphics between the first GC games and some of the best (Resident Evil). The Wii's games aren't close to that level yet, but pretending that the Wii isn't capable of doing that AND THEN SOME is absurd.
So both sides of this argument: give it a freakin' rest. Most of these screens suck but some of the original content really shows the difference between gen's and it will only continue to improve.
More screens as they are available.
Virtually everything else you see started out on GC kits (or another platform) and have since been upgraded to wii-status. I think the people that are saying "hey these look great" really mean to say: "that actually looks great, considering that's a gamecube game." That simply must not be translated to "huh huh huh itz a gaymkube terboW!" because that's ridiculous. On the same note, the people out there using these screens to judge what the Wii is capable of are really just blatant trolls afraid of seeing their precious system of choice drown in the sales of hardware maybe half as powerful.
Both sides of this silly argument are being shortsighted. What none of the people debating here realize is this really is first-gen Wii software that are almost all ported from GC stuff on GC engines. Now go back and look at the progression of graphics between the first GC games and some of the best (Resident Evil). The Wii's games aren't close to that level yet, but pretending that the Wii isn't capable of doing that AND THEN SOME is absurd.
So both sides of this argument: give it a freakin' rest. Most of these screens suck but some of the original content really shows the difference between gen's and it will only continue to improve.
More screens as they are available.
nincompoop
Banned
The best looking Wii games look much better than the average X360 game, imo. Call me crazy, but I think the classic Nintendo style holds much more visual appeal than a generic bald buff space marine in giant armor shooting at space aliens at sub-30 frames per second.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
nincompoop said:
Stop raising this silly argument and maybe they'll stop trying to prove that the Wii is "oh oso lastgin.jpg"
Logan Cano
Banned
PantherLotus said:
Doubtfull. Unless Wii's GPU actually has new graphical features, it won't improve much. A big part of a system's graphical progresion is that generally, a new architecture is underneath it, and because of that, a learning process is needed to properly code for the plattform.
AFAIK, Wii is scarily similar to GCN's architecture, so an actual progression is very unlikely to happen.
Of course, the arguement that stated that third parties never really payed attention to GCN and thus graphics will still improve from them is valid, but I'd be very surprised to see something clearly surpass Metroid Prime 2 or RE4.
PolyGone said:
Ermmm...since when was I talking in terms of "art"?? Zelda's art is much more appealing than Gears', but it still looks like crap when compared on technical terms. And besides, it's Zelda, the biggest N title, so Nintendo fanboys will defend it and claim it looks better than everything on the planet regardless.
Heck, just look at how many people are cumming over an awfully crappy master sword screen, due to the simple fact that it is the master sword.
Know what? Your right. Wii is setting a new standerd for videogame consoles. It will be the first one, that I can think of, where the games will improve, but only ever so slightly, and will ALL look as good as Mario Galaxy, NEVER signifigantly better.Logan Cano said:
It just wont stop.
Logan Cano said:
Even if that were true, we're not talking about a system where graphics are its primary selling point. Feel free to spend time arguing the finer points of PS3/360 graphics and let us enjoy these for what they are; great looking games for the system they will be played on.
Also, if you honestly don't think Zelda is a great looking game, remove your head and give it a damn good shake, son.
Logan Cano
Banned
moku said:
So...basically you say I'm a liar?? That the reason games improve isn't because of optimization and getting used to a new plattform?? And that a machine that has tiny differences to the one before, a plattform where developers already know how to maximize resources and performance, will still see big jumps like on a new plattform with a completely different architecture??
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
Logan Cano said:
see: metroid prime 3.
Logan Cano said:
if we were all looking for games purely on technical graphical prowess, we'd be playing this:
Logan Cano
Banned
PolyGone said:
**** man, that's what I'm trying to say, that they are decent and some great if taken as last gen games, but for next gan standards, they are bad looking. I never said Wii was meant to compete graphically with PS3/360.
beelzebozo said:see: metroid prime 3.
if we were all looking for games purely on technical graphical prowess, we'd be playing this:
You honestly think Metroid Prime 3 looks much better than MP1 or 2?? The game looks on a very similar level to its predecessors. After seeing a few videos and screens, if you told me the screens were from MP2, I would have believed you.
Also, it'd be awesome if we had affordable hardware that could produce FF:TSW graphics. Having Kojima make a MGS on it would be a dream.
No, I agree with you.Logan Cano said:
You obviously have worked with the hardware, as you know that its just a marginal improvment over the Gamecube. Why argue with you? If you say so, it has to be true.
Thanks for stopping by and clearing that up for all of us! Whew! What a load off.
DarknessTear
Banned
beelzebozo said:if we were all looking for games purely on technical graphical prowess, we'd be playing this:
Oh snap, I had no idea that was a video game.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
DarknessTear said:
and if we were only looking for technical graphical prowess it would fulfill all our needs.
we could sit with a controller in our hand and gawk at its purty-ness.
Logan Cano
Banned
moku said:
Ok, so, according to you, clearly hardware that doesn't emulate through special hardware, nor isn't powerfull enough to emulate through software, and that its main CPU can process GCN code as is, doesn't mean the CPU is very similar to GCN tech. Gotcha.
Obviously, since you seem to have reading comprehension issues, I stated that, UNLESS ATI's NEW GPU OFFERS NEW GRAPHICAL FUNCTIONS OVER GCN's, the difference would be slight. So, it could still offer graphical leaps.
Logan Cano
Banned
moku said:
:sigh:
Man, sarcasm isn't worth shit if you don't any arguement to counter with.
plagiarize
Banned
whether it's art, lighting, polygons, or a hooker nintendo sent over to wank me off under the table, Super Mario Galaxy looks really nice.
i mean, yeah it's not technically as good as a lot of games it looks better than, but it looks better than them.
how many of the Wii launch games are up to the standard of the best looking *GameCube* games? maybe only three or four. that should tell you that things are going to get better from here. i'm not expecting they'll get ps2 better (which was just crazy at times) but this is undoubtedly a base line of quality and not 'as good as it gets for the Wii'.
kameo is a beautiful game though and i don't agree with the whole Rare=bad art thing. i actually think it's still a stand out looker on the 360.
you can't state that the graphics aren't 'good enough' as a fact. they don't impress you and that's the end of the story. i bet you couldn't bring yourself to play okami either. or god of war 2 in a few months. or a hand held game.
i'm glad i'm not you. no offence intended.
i mean, yeah it's not technically as good as a lot of games it looks better than, but it looks better than them.
how many of the Wii launch games are up to the standard of the best looking *GameCube* games? maybe only three or four. that should tell you that things are going to get better from here. i'm not expecting they'll get ps2 better (which was just crazy at times) but this is undoubtedly a base line of quality and not 'as good as it gets for the Wii'.
kameo is a beautiful game though and i don't agree with the whole Rare=bad art thing. i actually think it's still a stand out looker on the 360.
you can't state that the graphics aren't 'good enough' as a fact. they don't impress you and that's the end of the story. i bet you couldn't bring yourself to play okami either. or god of war 2 in a few months. or a hand held game.
i'm glad i'm not you. no offence intended.
Logan Cano
Banned
moku said:
LOL, is this your equivalent of a child covering his ears screaming "I'M NOT LISTENING"?? :lol :lol