Remember that the WiiU version is rendered TWICE. Once in HD for the TV and once for the DRC (or uPad if you like this name better). Im talking about Rayman Legends here
yeah but that's nothing special for a 2d game.
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yeah but that's nothing special for a 2d game.
fabricated backlash
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I can see where you come from, and it was pretty clear from the very moment they unveiled the console and the controller, that many developers would use it's unique features for rubbish gimmicks and leave much of the potential of the WiiU untapped.
Look at the Wii. It took a dedicated 3rd party developer like Treyarch, Ubisoft (Red Steel 2), Climax (SHSM) or Eurocom to really show off how clever implementation of the Wiimote could create completely new gaming experiences that are new and don't have to rely on gimmicks.
Most of the releases, even from Nintendo though treated the potential of the Wiimote like a gimmick and it's implementation was often so forced that it felt pathethic to say the least.
I expect the same from WiiU, but honestly, what has been shown so far is allready leagues better in terms of usability, potential and integration than anything the Wii has gotten over its first year.
Ubisoft in particular have shown multiple interesting concepts of using the Pad in interesting ways. Spherical aiming and shooting in Killer Freaks, Dungeon Master or AI director also in Killer Freaks, Recon and strategy maps in Ghost Recon Online, Asymetrical Gameplay for local play and different skill sets in Rayman Legends.
I don't know but those all seem like practical improvements over standard game controllers, and it's all pretty traditional stuff.
The thing I'm more interested about is: What game will become the leader example on how to use the Pad. It's pretty safe to asume that one game will hit it out of the park in terms of creating a compelling use of the screen and Pad features and will probably deliver the template for most 3rd parties on how to implement the Pad into their games and ports without having to do too much guesswork and effort.
Or a DLC voucher.
in this case, not necessarily. I think it's a mirror image of what's on the tv, not a unique view, meaning they could simply render it all once and mirror the image on the upad.
Maybe they'd be annoyed at the subscreen being seen wired and people seeing the controller in general?
Honestly, I wonder if it maybe would have been at Ubisoft's conference the day before.
Why did you want me back here?
Also, I can't wait to rub this undeniable confirmation that IdeaMan has sources in a certain poster's face...
Yes, I had doubt as well, but it was more in a "take everything with a grain of salt" kind of way.
Even if it was a different view, its not exactly taxing to run a 2D game.
He wanted you to look at the last page. Idea man posted some info about the drc
Smiles and Cries
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I wonder what Killer Freaks looks like right now its been a while
Absolutely. I'm not sure how NFC protocols work but as long as games can recognise characters made by different publishers. Then they could partner with each other to reuse the figures and things.
UncleSporky
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Oh, that's true. In fact this could save on double processing in a lot of games, just mirror a part of the screen with overlays on top (targeting reticle, etc.).
On the contrary, it's buzz-making, and don't really reveal anything new. The NFC feature was already introduced by Nintendo themselves, and then the possible and expected applications were discussed by tons of people since a few months now, with these figurines, etc.
And the game itself, even if it's a graphical marvel, can't constitute a way to evaluate the Wii U capabilities "as" (marks because it's more complicated than that) it's a 2D platformer.
and thanks for this my little smiles
AceBandage
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Legends looks cool.
And the NFC stuff is neat.
And the NFC stuff is neat.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Well you know...devs and their excuses.
Send your card to Nintendo through the mail.
But the problem is if everyone uses it without control then there will be too many toys/similar products on the market and customers will lose their interest quickly.
And eventually parents/kids may just buy some famous stuff like pokemon etc. Then 3rd parties may get more things to complain. "Your toys make more money than ours! Lol
radioheadrule83
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This cult of personality stuff makes me really uneasy.
How is this undeniable confirmation of anything? His post mentioned rayman legends, which we knew was a multiplatform sequel, coming to Wii U. He's been very careful (or clever) in not giving substantial detail, so he didn't mention anything new that we saw in this trailer.
Now.. if his comments about that not being the final controller ring true, then I'll be more inclined to believe him, but this proves nothing.
Be wary of 'insiders' and false prophets!
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Exactly.
Thanks.
Okay. Interesting. Glad I was wrong about Nintendo not showing third-parties. xD Though I knew that the final controller would be different for sure.
Also, I really want to see the Wii U version of AC3 vs the PS3 and 360 versions now.
Wasn't he the first person to mention the name?
EDIT: No, he wasn't. Forget it.
UncleSporky
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"We are fully committed to making a broad variety of small test games for WiiU that will help fund our real projects elsewhere, and who knows, if we sell enough figurines we might start considering enhanced ports!"
UncleSporky
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Does it really matter? If he's fake, one day some people on the internet will be disappointed, he'll say "lol I got u all" and be banned, and life moves on.
Smiles and Cries
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the NFC stuff for Ubi raises some questions
those figures did not seem like final retail products to me... I mean how do you package a heart, rabbid, and AssCreed together?
also if they are final, is the in game stuff they unlock Exclusive to WiiU or will PS3 have downloads or codes to unlock the same features
and thanks again IdeaMan
those figures did not seem like final retail products to me... I mean how do you package a heart, rabbid, and AssCreed together?
also if they are final, is the in game stuff they unlock Exclusive to WiiU or will PS3 have downloads or codes to unlock the same features
and thanks again IdeaMan
It's more than likely this trailer wasn't intended for E3, as much as it was intended for gaming media who'd be under NDA, or retail partners. Which would also explain the use of stuff like Wii U controllers with gigantic cables running out of them.
If he's lying, well he's a really elaborate and crafty peace of work. Posters that have been verified and have actual insider sources and info to compare with his have even vouched for him and know we have confirmation on a wii u Rayman. How can you guys really be so skeptical at this point?
TheGreatMightyPoo
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I can confirm that only his boobs are fake.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Yea your doing it right.
AceBandage
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Filled with stinky cheese.
frankie_baby
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Perhaps on on other systems they could be compatable with the skylanders portal?
Like I said, grain of salt.
Anyway, Ubisoft said before that they have six Wii U games in development, right?
1.)Killer Freaks
2.)Ghost Recon Online
3.)Assassin's Creed 3
4.)Rayman Legends
5.)Unannounced Rabbids game
6.)Your Shape
Is that correct?
AceBandage
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The NFC stuff says it's exclusive.
I would guess that they'll either:
A) Bundle some of the items with the game and sell them later at stores.
B) Have them be preorder bonuses.
C) Only sell them at the stores but in limited quantities.
Perhaps Nintendo will be buying shelf space for NFC products for third parties even. That would be interesting.
It was actually a sports game, not Your Shape. And it's been canceled (Studio closure).
UncleSporky
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Do you think other third parties would partner with Activision to be able to use their tech?
Smiles and Cries
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@Erethian thanks that makes sense
that would work if it was the same company... the tech is the same but
that would work if it was the same company... the tech is the same but
Mihael Mello Keehl
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LE Pikachu with surf figurine will be mine!
frankie_baby
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Doesnt have to be from the same company, rock band can use guitar hero guitars
AceBandage
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And this is why I don't worry about Nintendo becoming profitable.
Once they release a Pokemon (likely battle game) on the system and use NFC for toys... It's all over.
Smiles and Cries
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thanks to Ubisoft it took me a while to notice Sony's Smash copy is out in full force today
not sure how to feel about dark and grey mature smash bros lulz
but I guess it was a matter of time
not sure how to feel about dark and grey mature smash bros lulz
but I guess it was a matter of time
I still don't get this NFC thing, i must be too old...
AceBandage
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Kids love to collect things. This is why trading card games and such have been so huge. Collections become a symbol of power for them.
Smiles and Cries
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yeah true
Still Nintendo are not known for sharing... they may easily lock out the feature with exclusive coding... Skylanders can work with upad while Nintendo stuff does not play nice on skylander's portal because its missing a few lines of code that Nintendo added to its chips. So upad can read all NFC but other NFC devices cannot read your Pokemon because Nintendo does not share
This is how Nintendo works
this could still be exclusive content
Yeah card i can see the point but toys.. The idea of needing a plastic toy to do something that could be done with ... just pushing a button. I don't know, that seems inconvenient.
Or maybe small toys! But in the Rayman vid they're using the kind of toy you don't take out with you at school i don't know.
UncleSporky
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The point is that they don't want you to be able to just push a button, they want you to pay a little extra for the bonuses, and I think most people would agree that DLC + cool swag is better than DLC on its own, assuming it's reasonably priced.
that's super easy to work around. nfc chips are incredibly small and probably cheap. just have multiple chips in each product, one of which is nintendo's "exclusive" chip
AceBandage
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No, the toys in the Rayman video are about normal size.
Take a look at the Skylander toys sometime.
Those are the size of normal action figures, about. It's not so much for taking to school, but having a pile of them for when friends come over.
Though, I do fear that too many companies will try and jump on this and overload the market.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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You could use a plain ol straw to drink from or a crazy straw!!!!
TheExplodingHead
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Finally we got a leak, no surprise it was Ubisoft! Loved Origins and will definitely love Legends.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Another thing is they are collectibles also..who wouldnt want collectibles...It could be of anything cards,toys,keychains whatever.
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