gamepad has its own firmware, and the tv remote function on it works without the wiiu on
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Wii U Update adds Off TV play for Wii mode (but you can't use gamepad to control)
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gamepad has its own firmware, and the tv remote function on it works without the wiiu on
This will actually be useful for me to play Wii Fit till Wii Fut U comes out. Reason is that the TV we have is in our room and there isn't that much space in the room. This way I can move to the other room (dog room) that is beside ours and just use it there thanks to it having plenty of space. Hope the range is still good (been able to play in the living room). Sucks a bit having to start on the TV first, but a mild annoyance for now. This way I can start Wii Fit U training a month before
I know is a bit disapointing not controlling with the gamepad (or I would be playing some Wii games I never did get to finish that use CC). Still is a nice function to have
I know is a bit disapointing not controlling with the gamepad (or I would be playing some Wii games I never did get to finish that use CC). Still is a nice function to have
Oh really! And the controllers pair with each other? (to get the wifi over bluetooth(?) range benefit).
Like has been already said, the sensor bar is just a pair of LEDs, there's nothing smart about them, you can even swap two lit candles for the sensor bar.
frankie_baby
Member
ou really shouldn't own a wii u without either having (or intending to get) at least one wii remote plus, handily for you though theres some game + remote bundles out soon or some cool Mario & luigi remotes
Zoramon089
Banned
The gamecube had analog shoulder buttons. Those couldn't be mapped...
I remember, it's why I am asking about whether it has to still pair with the console or possibly the game pad?
It uses bluetooth right? The wii controller that is. Wouldn't be able to get it as far, only good for couch.
Also does the gamepad have a decent stand by any chance or does it stand up by itself well?
The remote connects to the wii u only, it doesn't connect to the gamepad.
frankie_baby
Member
premium wii u come with a stand
This is weird and just doesn't make sense especially considering you own Wii games also.
A lot of games come with a free wiimote+ now.
GitarooMan
Member
Even in its current state I think this is pretty cool. Played some Wave Race 64 in bed using the Gamepad stand and the classic controller. Game looks and sounds great (side note: this game holds up as well or better than any game from that gen) and controls are good. For anything that uses a CC or CC Pro I think it is pretty interesting.
Yeah, I would just use my 3DS....
BRocknRolla
Member
Anyone notice if they added a hard reset functionality to the system?
I had mine do a full on freeze while using the browser and couldn't get it to shut off by conventional means. I was ready to go pull the power plug, because that's the only thing that's worked in the past, and I thought I'd try holding down the console power button just for kicks. To my surprise, it made a loud crackle noise through my speakers after 10 seconds or so, but shut off. When I turned it back on, there was a message there giving directions on how to do a hard restart (Which it said would always display after a hard restart). I've never seen that before or had holding the power button down work during a hard lock. Anyone else have this experience?
I had mine do a full on freeze while using the browser and couldn't get it to shut off by conventional means. I was ready to go pull the power plug, because that's the only thing that's worked in the past, and I thought I'd try holding down the console power button just for kicks. To my surprise, it made a loud crackle noise through my speakers after 10 seconds or so, but shut off. When I turned it back on, there was a message there giving directions on how to do a hard restart (Which it said would always display after a hard restart). I've never seen that before or had holding the power button down work during a hard lock. Anyone else have this experience?
ActStriker
Member
There are two LEDs right by the camera in the GamePad that act as a sensor bar.
AkimbO_Arcana
Banned
I played Resident poop 4 yesterday. Wii U hitting its stride!
Hard reset functionality has literally been on the system for months. Hold power button for four seconds.
RagingAvatar
Member
This was added in the previous update.
Tried it out yesterday. Holy fuck do Wii games look good on the gamepad. Dat free Anti-Aliasing *_*
Played Metroid: Other M and Skyward Sword. Controls worked as good as on the big screen (->reminded me just how much shooting missiles in Other M sucks, I need to install HBC on my WiiU ASAP and remap that shit), I was especially pleased by Skyward Sword. Due to the size of the screen all you need to do is swing the Wiimote with your wrist
Played Metroid: Other M and Skyward Sword. Controls worked as good as on the big screen (->reminded me just how much shooting missiles in Other M sucks, I need to install HBC on my WiiU ASAP and remap that shit), I was especially pleased by Skyward Sword. Due to the size of the screen all you need to do is swing the Wiimote with your wrist
Tried it out yesterday. Holy fuck do Wii games look good on the gamepad. Dat free Anti-Aliasing *_*
Played Metroid: Other M and Skyward Sword. Controls worked as good as on the big screen (->reminded me just how much shooting missiles in Other M sucks, I need to install HBC on my WiiU ASAP and remap that shit), I was especially pleased by Skyward Sword. Due to the size of the screen all you need to do is swing the Wiimote with your wrist
The size of the screen has nothing to do with your movements. You could play ss on the wii with just your wrist.
I've been thinking deeply about how the GamePad might be utilized as a Classic Controller, but in doing so it would still have to be paired with a corresponding Wii Remote if it were to do so. Most of GAF seem to think the GamePad alone can replicate all of the Wii Remote's functions and probably replace the IR with touchpad controls, but as some have said, theat is going to take a lot of effort considering the stuff I mentioned about many games having inconsistent aspect ratios.
So I think in the meantime, a really slick Wii Mode boot should be implemented. Knowing the part before booting the Wii portion, instead of just having just two options where you point your Wii Remote on the desired option on the screen, a third option (Display only on GamePad) should appear on the GamePad itself: To activate it, you just simply point your Wii Remote on the GamePad, and not only should it make the Sensor Bar settings automatically adjust so that it is set to "Above TV", but it also allows you to bypass the need for a TV to start Wii Mode. That means so long as you can pair a Wii Remote to the Wii U, you can start start Wii Mode on Gamepad with the system assuming that said paired controller has a Classic Controller Pro connected to it, provided no other devices are connected physically to the active Wii Remote.
I know GAF would rather get rid of the need for Wii Remotes entirely, but the problem is IR is native to the system, and is even still active while using Classic Controllers.
So I think in the meantime, a really slick Wii Mode boot should be implemented. Knowing the part before booting the Wii portion, instead of just having just two options where you point your Wii Remote on the desired option on the screen, a third option (Display only on GamePad) should appear on the GamePad itself: To activate it, you just simply point your Wii Remote on the GamePad, and not only should it make the Sensor Bar settings automatically adjust so that it is set to "Above TV", but it also allows you to bypass the need for a TV to start Wii Mode. That means so long as you can pair a Wii Remote to the Wii U, you can start start Wii Mode on Gamepad with the system assuming that said paired controller has a Classic Controller Pro connected to it, provided no other devices are connected physically to the active Wii Remote.
I know GAF would rather get rid of the need for Wii Remotes entirely, but the problem is IR is native to the system, and is even still active while using Classic Controllers.
bodeiseifer
Member
Wii games look pretty awful on the gamepad imo, dont get why they appear so soft when the gamepad and Wii resolution are so similar.
bodeiseifer
Member
maybe Nintendo can make an adaptor so a wiimote can be plugged into it then habe the gamepad recognised as a cap.
I wonder why they bothered though to be honest,
A- you need the tv on even have wii games appear on the gamepad, unless you change the res in settings.
B- now people are gonna be further demanding the gamepad be used when in Wii mode, casuals will surely be dumbfounded as to why it isnt possible.
I wonder why they bothered though to be honest,
A- you need the tv on even have wii games appear on the gamepad, unless you change the res in settings.
B- now people are gonna be further demanding the gamepad be used when in Wii mode, casuals will surely be dumbfounded as to why it isnt possible.
UncleSporky
Member
Actually there shouldn't be any AA. The pad is 480p, just like the Wii outputs. It's as jaggy as ever.
Smaller screen makes it less noticeable, though.UncleSporky
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Casuals would be dumbfounded if they booted up a remote-only game and were told to "unplug the classic controller" but as far as they could see, there's nothing plugged in anywhere.
While I see your point regarding games that support Classic Controller (I agree that Nintendo should find a way to use the Gamepad as a replacement, assuming it makes sense from the technical, security and practical point of view as others have already said) I'd find awkward - to say the least - playing anything that makes heavy use of the wiimote (and possibly nunchuck) on the GamePad replacing the original controls with more or less complicated button replacements.
That's obviously not even taking into consideration motionplus-only titles like Red Steel 2 or Wii Sports Resort that would make things even more complicated regarding practical usability and basically require a "real" wiimote.
On the whole, in my opinion this is a nice feature that came unexpected, I don't really understand all the complaints... the way I see it is like the PS3 browser, definitely far from being perfect but hey, it's free, built-in and for me better having it than not.
Why do they need to come out with a whole new gamepad?
Why cant they just sell a small Bluetooth dongle that can attach to the gamepad,
for those people who are really interested in playing Wii games.
As a matter of fact, that could be what they are planning. By teasing
everyone with this latest update, they can get them to buy into a dongle and make
money on a small accessory.
There's no step back. It's only forward. You lose nothing, you only gain. Would GP button support be awesome? Hells yea! Is it necessary to make this incredibly awesome? Hells no!
There can be no damage control without damage. Stop being silly.
You mean the crazy people who make up the vast majority of Wii U owners. The ones with enough foresight to see the benefits in that package?
No. The NSMBU update from two months ago added pro controller support to NSMBU, though.
Xenoblade can be copied no problem!
That said, I did my Wii->WiiU transfer yesterday. It was quite time consuming due to all the re-downloading after moving it over. What's weird is that the part from SD->WiiU takes a lot longer than Wii->SD.
Data management is probably handled differently so files are possibly being converted so that the wii U can actually interpret the data?
Hmm, never have had to stand up and move anything above my wrist when playing with the wiimote. It's all in the wrist....and settings. (specifically COD; dead zones, sensitivities, etc.)
Nah, you can't emulate pointer commands, not even with the touchscreen (remember that different games have peculiar aspect ratios and resolutions, like the games just mentioned trying out). It would laso be very impractical to make the GamePad act like a gigantic Wii Remote...considering the screen that you'll be using is the GamePad's.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
Yeah, but in certain games that only have Wiimote cursor features for no particular reason except as a gimmick (Or second player feature) like Galaxy which only uses it for collecting starbits out of reach, it wouldn't be a problem. They could even release patches for those games to either remove the need for that ability, couldn't they? Maybe not. Or maybe. I dunno. Wii games can be patched, right? Would be a nice dream. Even if they only patched a handful of games like Galaxy 1+2 and Twilight Princess (Skyward Sword would probably be a problem because of the Motion+ swordplay.) I'd be happy.
But whatever.
SporeCrawler
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So i played a bit of SMG 2 while watching bayern vs. Mancity... Im loving this feature
PotionBleue
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No, that's the problem. The Wii gave all control to the game as soon as it was launched, even the HOME menu is actually built into games. That's why no Wii game was ever patched - be sure if it was possible, Nintendo would've fixed the glitches in Mario Kart Wii like they did on the 3DS with Mario Kart 7.
Skyward Sword's patch is just a channel that you have to boot and that edited your game save, it wasn't a patch.