James Sawyer Ford
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Oh, it should, absolutely
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[Windows Central] Microsoft and Xbox announced 'Marvel's Blade' at The Game Awards — but could it also be coming to PlayStation?
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Oh, it should, absolutely
//DEVIL//
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They wouldn't show it if they were still in negotiation. Because that would put them in disadvantage when marvel sees the reaction and they will have the upper hand in negotiation.
Also I don't think it's even legal to show it if it's not done deal in terms of license and negotiation.
And this is a preplanned project since ar least 1 year if not more and they know exactly what development system it's on.
Its just MS being stupid MS.
In truth though I think they just want to maintain the image of nice MS and pro all consoles and systems because
1- still the FTC side battle
2- same as Indiana Jones they wanna leave it as a different date announcement
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Portbegging - the thread.
MarkMe2525
Member
I fully expect it to be multiplat. The game is a ways out for sure, it's not in MS best interest to be specific about any details.
Daneel Elijah
Gold Member
Windows central thinks otherwise. What make this really funny to me is that someone said the same thing in the thread about this game reveal and nobody really noticed. But then we got another thread just for that. It should be really simple, as you have said. But it isn't. It should be really simple for Xbox to fix this, but they have yet to do so. How can someone go from having a exclusive interview with the CEO of Xbox to having Xbox not being able to say something as easy as if their game is exclusive or not? This is the problem, not the game itself. Better get a laugh about it, because I prefer having people being silly with this game going to PS than Xbox embarrasing themselves if somehow the game get multiplat.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
It's because they didn't list platforms at all. Sony always does so.
CoreyFlawless
Member
It be on pc. Which is a bigger market then both
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
How does acting like it's not an exclusive help it with the FTC? They showed games last night that were exclusives (Hellblade 2), so why would it "look" bad if Blade was exclusive too?
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Compare the trailer for Kojima's new game which had Xbox, Xbox Game Studios and Microsoft logo's front and back and is listed on the Xbox Youtube channel. This trailer had the Marvel, Bethesda and Arkane logos but nothing related to Xbox or MS. It also can't be found on the official Xbox channel. That's odd for what should be a big new Xbox/Gamepass exclusive game competing with Spider-Man and Wolverine.
Topher
Gold Member
Yes. There was plenty of speculation of whether Spider-man would be a timed PlayStation exclusive or not back when it was announced.
Deerock71
Member
This, in reality, is what you've just said.
SEGAvangelist
Member
No it wouldn't because Sony would shout it from the rooftops that it's an exclusive.
soulbait
Member
Who cares at this point? The game is a couple years away. Why focus on what platform it is going to be on or not. We do know it will be on Xbox. Which also means it will more than likely also be on PC.
When I watched it, I thought to myself, "This is probably going to PlayStation as well." If it does, that is a win a for the PlayStation only people, giving them access to more games. If not, it will be an exclusive for Xbox peeps and good for them; that is what more studios get you.
At this point though, it does not matter. Why get into such a tizzy over a single trailer for a game so far out?
When I watched it, I thought to myself, "This is probably going to PlayStation as well." If it does, that is a win a for the PlayStation only people, giving them access to more games. If not, it will be an exclusive for Xbox peeps and good for them; that is what more studios get you.
At this point though, it does not matter. Why get into such a tizzy over a single trailer for a game so far out?
Stafford
Member
As a gamer who prefers Xbox I honestly just don't care. It's come to a point where it just doesn't matter at all for me. It comes to my platform of choice, and even if for some reason it's not coming to GP, it's fine, I'll buy it.
It's definitely odd that Xbox wasn't even mentioned though.
It's definitely odd that Xbox wasn't even mentioned though.
Hudo
Member
This.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Kilau
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Brought to you by non other than windowscentral.com lol.Portbegging - the thread.
It’s Xbox exclusive but doing it this way drums up more conversation now and then even more when it’s official. Phil “Case by case” Spencer.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
You mean as opposed to "WORLD PREMIERE""EXCLUSIVE"and the famous "LAUCHING EXCLUSIVELY ON XBOX"?
And let's not forget the interdiction to announce other platforms before a certain time period that is exclusive to Xbox.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Relax. My point is that Sony is clear about these things when it comes to first party.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Avengers Spiderman, sure.
Who thought a first party developed Spiderman wasn’t going to be exclusive to PlayStation?
Topher
Gold Member
Yeah, this ain't exactly helping to quash all the "Microsoft going third party" talk. Some here are acting all coy about this, but in reality.....
soulbait
Member
For those asking how it would benefit MS for it to be multiplatform: it adds more value to GamePass, if you have to buy the game somewhere else on launch day.
Everyone thinks MS is concerned with console sales. Even Phil said they cannot beat console sales at this point. And as digital libraries move, this is going to become harder and harder. What MS is concerned about is GamePass subscriptions. These can be through Xbox consoles (remember you can play XSX games on Xbox One via xCloud), PC, mobile, or even TVs (Samsung has started this), they do not care what the consumer is using.
Margins on consoles have always been small. Profits have been in accessories and games. MS has shifted and want that money through subscription. That is their number one focus. Not console sales. Not game sales. But subscription numbers.
Making a hit game that is available at no additional cost versus a $70 cost adds value for the subscription. But also, the games that sales for $70 on the other ecosystems is still money for them as well. It makes sense to do this for some games, and it makes the most sense for a licensed game like this.
I personally do not care. I am fortunate enough to be able to afford all current consoles and could build a kick ass gaming PC if I wanted (I am just not a fan of PC gaming). So I do not care about these business decisions, because they do not impact me in anyway, and I can play the games that I want to.
But for those who do care so much about what these businesses are doing (either due to fandom/allegiance or stock investments) you can at least see why the possibility of some games going multiplatform can make sense for MS.
Sony on the other hand? Their numbers and lead make it not as a big deal to them, especially because their main driver is console sales. When you lead so much, you don't need to look for other avenues like MS. Which is why they are fine with delaying PC releases as well. More profit on the backend of the hype of a game release.
Everyone thinks MS is concerned with console sales. Even Phil said they cannot beat console sales at this point. And as digital libraries move, this is going to become harder and harder. What MS is concerned about is GamePass subscriptions. These can be through Xbox consoles (remember you can play XSX games on Xbox One via xCloud), PC, mobile, or even TVs (Samsung has started this), they do not care what the consumer is using.
Margins on consoles have always been small. Profits have been in accessories and games. MS has shifted and want that money through subscription. That is their number one focus. Not console sales. Not game sales. But subscription numbers.
Making a hit game that is available at no additional cost versus a $70 cost adds value for the subscription. But also, the games that sales for $70 on the other ecosystems is still money for them as well. It makes sense to do this for some games, and it makes the most sense for a licensed game like this.
I personally do not care. I am fortunate enough to be able to afford all current consoles and could build a kick ass gaming PC if I wanted (I am just not a fan of PC gaming). So I do not care about these business decisions, because they do not impact me in anyway, and I can play the games that I want to.
But for those who do care so much about what these businesses are doing (either due to fandom/allegiance or stock investments) you can at least see why the possibility of some games going multiplatform can make sense for MS.
Sony on the other hand? Their numbers and lead make it not as a big deal to them, especially because their main driver is console sales. When you lead so much, you don't need to look for other avenues like MS. Which is why they are fine with delaying PC releases as well. More profit on the backend of the hype of a game release.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
See! And that's why we are all confused. It's not some conspiracy as to why people are wondering.
//DEVIL//
Member
Hellblade 2 was before the FTC thing. Blade 2 is a new game the FTC can use against them in the sense " look, MS said they like their games on all platforms but in reality it's a lie and here is an example blade is Xbox exclusive"
Of course this is just speculation from my part.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Won't stop me from review bombing it
StealthGoblin
Banned
Portbegging - the thread.
Has anyone actually asked for it?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
A tizzy? So it's bad to have conversations now?
Trogdor1123
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Topher
Gold Member
I recall quite a bit of speculation about it because it was damn near unheard of at the time that a licensed property like Spider-man would be exclusive to one platform.
BadBurger
Is 'That Pure Potato'
Potentially tens of millions in revenue and profits. No big deal.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
And when MS isn't it's usually because it is not.
HawarMiran
Banned
Are they going for an M rating? If yes , then i can see it happening
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Thirty7ven
Banned
With Bethesda’s no comment it really is hilarious they wouldn’t confirm or deny it because the Xbox brand is that bad right now.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Yeah…unless they want to sell the game
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
So no point in first party exclusives then. Sony should bring their franchises to Nintendo, right?
SEGAvangelist
Member
This seems very likely, IMO.
Topher
Gold Member
Yeah, there is a point to first party exclusives. First and foremost to add value to the platform. A multiplat doesn't necessarily do that for one system over another. But when you are in a situation like Xbox consoles where the platform has a hard time growing past a certain point then the company has to start looking elsewhere in order to stay in business. That's why Xbox games are on Steam day one.
HisExcellency
Neo Member
I have never had an Xbox console. I don't hate on those that do (because that's weird) but the games I have wanted have either been third party or exclusive to Sony (or Nintendo) since the PlayStation came out.
OD is the only game I have *ever* wanted that was on the Xbox and not the PlayStation. Not the only game that I thought looked good, just the only one I really wanted that I'm locked out of playing on the 5 (if it's really good I'll obviously just get it for PC). This game seems very interesting and I hope that it's an absolute banger. And yeah it's 100% not coming to PS unless something about Xbox as a whole drastically changes from now until release.
MacReady13
Member
If Marvel are expecting sales then honestly, why release on Xbox in the 1st place? We ALL know Xbox doesn't care about sales. It's all about engagement and subs for game pass. Xbox fanboys don't buy games, hence why most companies release games on Playstation and Switch.
Heisenberg007
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Console growth is done by having exclusives that drive hardware sales. Microsoft cant sell Xbox to console customers if they’re putting their games on PlayStation.
PC is another story. They’re just looking to sell the game, and Steam is the store to sell on.
Kilau
Member
Yeah, this ain't exactly helping to quash all the "Microsoft going third party" talk. Some here are acting all coy about this, but in reality.....
I won't pretend to know what their plans are but an Xbox future that doesn't involve a dedicated console is a possibility imo.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Topher
Gold Member
I don't think console growth is Microsoft's priority any longer. I think back to Phil Spencer's defeatist rant about losing last gen being the worst gen to lose. And even on PC, Microsoft first tried to sell their games only on their own store. It wasn't until that failed miserably that they announced that all their games going forward would be on Steam. Meanwhile, Sony makes PC gamers wait for their games still and Nintendo ignores other platforms entirely.