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WindowsCentral: Xbox One X Amazon pre-orders surpass PS4 Pro YTD for 2017
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El-Pistolero
Member
Most of the buyers probably already have a standard Xbox One...so chances are you are wrong!
Colbert
Banned
And you still forgot to put the "/s" at the end of that statement!
I just bought an S bundle from Amazon yesterday for $250 that had Ghost Recon Wildlands Gold Edition, Halo 5, Forza 6 and Recore.
Holy fuck that is a screaming deal.
Super curious to see what the X1 Minecraft edition does. Even at 399.
Uno Venova
Banned
Damn, that makes people wishing the death of Gamestop even more shocking to me.
That's cool I guess?
I actually thought it would be something impressive like in the top 10 or something.
But wow...Can't believe someone scrolled all the way down to find this factoid.
I mean, don't most of us just kinda stop after the top 20-30 results?
You need to go down to 60-70 range and than 90-100 for these consoles to show up.
Kinda sad for both.
I actually thought it would be something impressive like in the top 10 or something.
But wow...Can't believe someone scrolled all the way down to find this factoid.
I mean, don't most of us just kinda stop after the top 20-30 results?
You need to go down to 60-70 range and than 90-100 for these consoles to show up.
Kinda sad for both.
Complicated
Banned
Good to see them get there so quickly. Hopefully it keeps going. Would love to see this kind of hardware refresh become the norm.
statham
Member
Fo shizzle. Amen.
Well, judging by those ridiculous eBay auctions, a lot of people may just be banking on an early inventory shortage to try to make a buck.
Plus, Amazon doesn't charge for until the item ships, so those pre-orders can easily get cancelled. A more serious metric might be a channel like Best Buy, which holds the funds immediately (I know, because I got my pre-order at Best Buy).
Plus, Amazon doesn't charge for until the item ships, so those pre-orders can easily get cancelled. A more serious metric might be a channel like Best Buy, which holds the funds immediately (I know, because I got my pre-order at Best Buy).
It's gonna sell out but not at great quantities. i wanna say the expensive halo 5 bundle sold under 100k in October 2015
You can't prove that and neither can I. It's not about right or wrong it's an opinion or theory.
I'm pretty sure I'm right tho.
Yeah, with the recently announced bundles I expect we will see it on the list. I don't know how many of those Minecraft bundles they will have in stock but I expect that to do very well.
On second thought, i hope it bombs just to send the opposite message ;(
MarineMountie
Member
Wait a minute. So they are comparing early adopters pre order numbers for X1X against...what exactly? 8 months of PS4 Pro sales? I would much rather see the pre order comparisons. Early adopters for anything can make it seem like something is going to sell well.
Best Buy does? I've preordered from them before and I never noticed that. (I use a BB credit card when I order online if that makes a difference)
captainraincoat
Banned
Oh shit...this thread is gonna get some mileage.
The ps4 pro after 12 months still does not effectively communicate the benifit of a pro over a standard ps4....scorpio just needs to say most powerful console..this is simple...true and its effective.
While i dont think they can take the crown this gen they certainly are doing the best backtrack on all their shitty decisions in xbox1 launch..they just need to get their first party stuff out the door and it will be a must have for any gamer
The ps4 pro after 12 months still does not effectively communicate the benifit of a pro over a standard ps4....scorpio just needs to say most powerful console..this is simple...true and its effective.
While i dont think they can take the crown this gen they certainly are doing the best backtrack on all their shitty decisions in xbox1 launch..they just need to get their first party stuff out the door and it will be a must have for any gamer
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Huh?
What are you even talking about? Wasn't it revealed last year that the percentage of Pro sales under the PS4 banner was only like 10-15% or something during the Nov/Dec rush?
The base models of both these models are going to be the bigger sellers but base One owners have way more reason to upgrade than base PS4 owners do. That's not really up for debate. Which explains why the pre-orders are high.
The real question is after launch, what deals will they have for users looking to jump in. they surely arent gonna keep it at 500 forever, i dont know what deals Sony has done for pro for that matter
TheLionsDen
Member
It's only Amazon, so does it honestly mean much? Should Amazon numbers be considered an indication for other retailers allowing XB1X preorders?
curiouscharles
Member
i'm already pretty sweaty for the One X, and hopefully some decent sales momentum puts a fire under MS gaming studio's collective arses.
er...it probably doesn't mean much for amount of sales themselves after launch since its amazon only and US only and preorders only, but that still shows us that there is interest in the product leading up to the release
I mean i dont think i've seen anyone saying otherwise or trying to extrapolate that to be bigger than it is...some of the push back against this fairly credible info i'm not understanding
thelastword
Banned
This November will be very interesting, especially with a PRO at $350.00.......
The thing about Amazon though is how quickly positions on this chart can change, there are also multiple pro bundles as well, including one with two controllers and a wall charger.. In the next two weeks, I think Destiny will have a pro bundle amongst others, GTS may have one too soon after....I still think preorders vs actual sales is a very dangerous thing to gauge and get excited about...When people are really vested to buy come November or for the holidays, they will have many options to choose from, which can include cancelling their XBONEX pre-orders on Amazon because they don't charge your cards till your item ships, so it's a safety net for many whilst you decide......Tbf, It's just a bad idea to compare pre-orders on an Amazon list to actual sales...
The heavy sales months that actually do matter are not even on yet, but I do expect pro sales to bump up come Destiny2 and significantly through the holidays....
The thing about Amazon though is how quickly positions on this chart can change, there are also multiple pro bundles as well, including one with two controllers and a wall charger.. In the next two weeks, I think Destiny will have a pro bundle amongst others, GTS may have one too soon after....I still think preorders vs actual sales is a very dangerous thing to gauge and get excited about...When people are really vested to buy come November or for the holidays, they will have many options to choose from, which can include cancelling their XBONEX pre-orders on Amazon because they don't charge your cards till your item ships, so it's a safety net for many whilst you decide......Tbf, It's just a bad idea to compare pre-orders on an Amazon list to actual sales...
The heavy sales months that actually do matter are not even on yet, but I do expect pro sales to bump up come Destiny2 and significantly through the holidays....
Welfare
Member
The limited Halo 5 bundle sold 93K, and that was $499 I think. I don't see 100K of those Minecraft bundles being sold in October.
pretty done
Member
I'm honestly not surprised. There's not a whole lot of 4K content for 4KTV owners, be it shows/movies/games. I'd probably get one if I didn't already have a PC, Pro and Switch.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed with how many games on the Pro are 1440p or some bullshit like 1628p. Sure it looks better than 1080p but sub-native res almost never looks good with console-quality anti-aliasing.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed with how many games on the Pro are 1440p or some bullshit like 1628p. Sure it looks better than 1080p but sub-native res almost never looks good with console-quality anti-aliasing.
4 you sonofabitch. 4 YEARS!!!!!
It is a weird thing, because the PS4 was already the most powerful console. And I think it was a confusing poorly marketed half step by Sony to even have a more powerful system.
A year later more people have 4K television sets or are planning to buy one in the near future. MS has been promoting at least to the hardcore this updated version for a year. And that is before any actual push on television or even through YouTube ads and the such before the actual launch in November.
It feels more like a successor to the Xbox One I think then an upgrade. And they get that marketing line of most powerful console.
Not sure if these numbers will hold up, but I imagine the PS4 will still be the go to Sony SKU, while the Xbox X will significantly outsell the Xbox One S.
A year later more people have 4K television sets or are planning to buy one in the near future. MS has been promoting at least to the hardcore this updated version for a year. And that is before any actual push on television or even through YouTube ads and the such before the actual launch in November.
It feels more like a successor to the Xbox One I think then an upgrade. And they get that marketing line of most powerful console.
Not sure if these numbers will hold up, but I imagine the PS4 will still be the go to Sony SKU, while the Xbox X will significantly outsell the Xbox One S.
Dougieflesh
Member
Waiting for the $399 price drop in the spring personally before I dive in.
It was expected, its a new console abd toy and people are eager. I'm sure at least 15-20% are scalpers trying to make a profit too on Xbox One. I wouldn't trust Amazon though for sales, as anyone can pre-order without putting a dime. Like others are stating, I wanna see Xbox Scorpio have legs and be able to dethrone Switch.
texhnolyze
Banned
No One S in sight. Not looking good for Xbox.
Pro was 46 launch year on Amazon-
https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2016/videogames/ref=zg_bsar_pg_3?ie=UTF8&pg=3
We have to wait till standard model 1X pre orders go up, and launch sales, to see where it ends up.
One is not like the other. Just saying.
.....noone said xbox S was beating anything. This is about the two more higher end consoles
I should havr known this would turn into a bait thread
Yearsoflurking
Member
Xbox one s needs a price drop. Permanent one
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
I have to disagree on a few points here.
The PS4 Pro was put out for a few possible reasons. To introduce 4K gaming (though it really should have had an UHD Blu Ray player) which also helps them sell Sony TVs and for more power to support PSVR.
As to the other point, up until now and including now, MS Marketing will even tell you that the S is expected to be their main selling console Nd the X to the core gamer.
I agree that it is a leap over base Xbox One and somewhat the S as well. It would be a successor if they stick with no more generations as a plan.
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
They just announced a PS4 Slim GT Sport bundle. Not for the Pro. That says a lot as to which Sony is pushing as their main selling box. Here, like MS, the Pro is for the core gamer and maybe the ones with PSVR.
Scrotum Phillips
Member
While this is a very healthy sign for the Xbox One X, I'd pump the brakes a bit here.
First, for whatever reason, the Pro has been out of stock for various lengthy periods of time on Amazon in 2017. Second, there have been multiple SKU's offered for the Pro as well thus maybe scattering the sales data.
Hope the One X sells gangbusters, but I'd wait for something a little more concrete before drawing conclusions.
First, for whatever reason, the Pro has been out of stock for various lengthy periods of time on Amazon in 2017. Second, there have been multiple SKU's offered for the Pro as well thus maybe scattering the sales data.
Hope the One X sells gangbusters, but I'd wait for something a little more concrete before drawing conclusions.
that's good. the closer Microsoft and sony are in sales the better it is for gamers.
amazon hardware tracking isn't reliable as it tracks by sku. xbox has had a handful of bundles(each have different sku) this year already so it makes sense for its sales to be spread thinner across multiple bundles.
amazon hardware tracking isn't reliable as it tracks by sku. xbox has had a handful of bundles(each have different sku) this year already so it makes sense for its sales to be spread thinner across multiple bundles.