GAF: Hold my beer.No matter how you interpret these results it's certainly not bad news for the Xbox One X. It's either good or possibly great.
GAF: Hold my beer.No matter how you interpret these results it's certainly not bad news for the Xbox One X. It's either good or possibly great.
GAF: Hold my beer.
This is just Amazon? I'd be shocked if no-money-down pre-orders didn't manage to surpass the PS4 Pro. Comparing no-investment pre-orders with actual sales is hilarious.
I thought payment was required for pre-ordered on Amazon?
I thought payment was required for pre-ordered on Amazon?
Nope. Not until the item is preparing for shipment.
Wait, what? 20%(1) of all PS4 sold since Pro launch, is a pro. Ok, let's do a little math then.
November 2016 surpased 50 million sold (2), and now there is around 60,7 (3) million total, meaning sales of roughly 10,7 million from NOV16 til now.
So, above 2,14 million pre orders? Goddam.
(1) https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/06/11/ps4-pro-sales/
(2) http://www.********.com/article/268...wii-u-global-lifetime-salesapril-2017-update/
(3)http://www.********.com
Are you assuming that more people will cancel their preorders than place new preorders up until launch? If anything these figures will go up since X actually seems to deliver on it's promise going by DF comparisons and gamecom impressions. I'm guessing that the hype will actually go up, unless MS mess up somehow in PR the coming months.This is just Amazon? I'd be shocked if no-money-down pre-orders didn't manage to surpass the PS4 Pro. Comparing no-investment pre-orders with actual sales is hilarious.
Wait, what? 20%(1) of all PS4 sold since Pro launch, is a pro. Ok, let's do a little math then.
November 2016 surpased 50 million sold (2), and now there is around 60,7 (3) million total, meaning sales of roughly 10,7 million from NOV16 til now.
So, above 2,14 million pre orders? Goddam.
(1) https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/06/11/ps4-pro-sales/
(2) http://www.********.com/article/268...wii-u-global-lifetime-salesapril-2017-update/
(3)http://www.********.com
Looks to have beat the Pro on Amazon UK as well.
48 vs. 60
GAF: Hold my beer.
So, above 2,14 million pre orders? Goddam.
Wait, what? 20%(1) of all PS4 sold since Pro launch, is a pro. Ok, let's do a little math then.
November 2016 surpased 50 million sold (2), and now there is around 60,7 (3) million total, meaning sales of roughly 10,7 million from NOV16 til now.
So, above 2,14 million pre orders? Goddam.
(1) https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/06/11/ps4-pro-sales/
(2) http://www.********.com/article/268...wii-u-global-lifetime-salesapril-2017-update/
(3)http://www.********.com
But you have to take into account the jump between Xbone and xbonex is bigger than the one between ps4 and ps4 pro, so anyone already invested in Microsoft's ecosystem will love this update.
Boost mode is not enhanced. Enhanced means they get an actual patch. If you want to go the boosted arguement then that means EVERY Xbox One game is enhanced. As they designed it to benefit every game patch or not and no need to turn on a boost mode. They tested every released game as well for compatibility.
Probably best not to take anything wapplew says seriously. As far as I can tell, every single post of his is a troll.And this is where you're making the first wrong conclusion.
Yes, for Amazon. Earlier in the thread, people have brought up several possible confounding factors: that preorders are zero cost on Amazon and thus some might not translate to actual sales; that there are multiple SKUs of Pro not included in the comparison; and that Amazon was out of stock on Pro for parts of the year.Wait what? Am I reading this correctly, Xbox One X preorders are already higher than Pro numbers for this year to date (2017)?
The best we can say is that Xbox is number 3 so far for August. Pro ended up number 5 for September last year (that was when preorders started). But there's no way to say which ranking is harder to achieve.Wouldn't it make more sense to compare XOX preorder numbers to Pro preorder numbers from last year? I know we don't have those numbers but the metric being used here seems pretty useless.
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I imagine the thirst from Xbox fans for something new, and most importantly more powerful, is real. Upfront sales are expected at any console launch, so we won't know if its a success until the dust settles and this things been on the market for many months. The good news here is, theres clearly demand for the product at least initially, so Microsoft has to be happy about that.
Did a bot write this?LoL..the King is back. Why wouldn't ppl deposit/pre-order a multi-plat beast..makes all the sense. We all tired off this BS when a console struggles to play a goddamn gm..Now MS is , Handling it.
What.That's impressive. Pro dropped the ball, it seems.
GAF: Hold my beer.
Whining about hypothetical posts sure is a great contribution to the conversation.I'm surprised we haven't seen the classic: "That's because PS4 owners were happy with the base model, XB1 owners aren't"
Kill me.Wait, what? 20%(1) of all PS4 sold since Pro launch, is a pro. Ok, let's do a little math then.
November 2016 surpased 50 million sold (2), and now there is around 60,7 (3) million total, meaning sales of roughly 10,7 million from NOV16 til now.
So, above 2,14 million pre orders? Goddam.
(1) https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/06/11/ps4-pro-sales/
(2) http://www.********.com/article/268...wii-u-global-lifetime-salesapril-2017-update/
(3)http://www.********.com
Yeah, well I've seen the odd post around the power difference which I agree with.I'm surprised we haven't seen the classic: "That's because PS4 owners were happy with the base model, XB1 owners aren't"
Makes that E3 price thread very embarrassing in retrospective with all the "LOL DOA" posts for 15 pages.
Yeah, well I've seen the odd post around the power difference which I agree with.
Still, I just think they've hit it on the head with how much they've pushed this and how. The most powerful tag line is corny and reminds me of "strong and stable" but it seems to of done the trick from what we've seen early on.
Makes that E3 price thread very embarrassing in retrospective with all the "LOL DOA" posts for 15 pages.
I can't tell if you guys are actually interested in this tallest midget competition between two niche products, or just pretending in order to have something to argue about.
Your calculation of how many Pros have sold roughly matches best estimates. But those are worldwide numbers, whereas the current thread is about the US. And those are total numbers, whereas the thread is about Amazon only. And most importantly, you counted all Pro sales, when this thread is only matching One X against its 2017 sales.Wait, what? 20%(1) of all PS4 sold since Pro launch, is a pro. Ok, let's do a little math then.
November 2016 surpased 50 million sold (2), and now there is around 60,7 (3) million total, meaning sales of roughly 10,7 million from NOV16 til now.
So, above 2,14 million pre orders?
I reject your reality and substitute my own: the comparison is not viable.So sony doing BS on the 20% quote or are scorpios selling like super hot fire.
Take your pick, Gaf.
They have not tested every game yet, that's atill ongoing according to Albert Penello.Boost mode is not enhanced. Enhanced means they get an actual patch. ...They tested every released game as well for compatibility.
Slight tangent, but looking at this top 100, how is the Xbox One S not even in there? The PS4 slim Uncharted 4 bundle is at number 9 by comparison. Are sales that bad for Xbox this year?
Slight tangent, but looking at this top 100, how is the Xbox One S not even in there? The PS4 slim Uncharted 4 bundle is at number 9 by comparison. Are sales that bad for Xbox this year?
Microsoft Manufacturing as Many Xbox One X Units as Possible; Response Was Overwhelming
A couple of days ago, during its pre-Gamescom live show, Microsoft opened pre-orders for the Xbox One X Project Scorpio Edition, and today DualShockers had a chat with Xbox Games Marketing General Manager Aaron Greenberg about the companys expectations for the console.
Greenberg explained that, while Microsoft doesnt know what kind of share of Xbox One family sales will be taken by Xbox One X consoles, theyre really trying to manufacture as many as they possibly can.
The response to the console has been overwhelming, with stock at several top retailers selling out right away in many countries.
According to Greenberg, the Xbox One X is Microsofts flagship and premium product, but they dont want people to forget the benefits of the whole Xbox family, including the fact that all games and accessories work on both Xbox One S and Xbox One X, full backward compatibility of over 400 Xbox 360 games, and three generation of titles available to play with the addition of original Xbox games.
That's a bit pedantic, we know what everyone thought, the console would be a flop. It's not a flop though.When people say "DOA", they don't literally mean the system won't even be able to sell its pre-order allotment.
Yeah ofc, but it doesn't mean that the thread isn't embarrassing. The hate on the 1X after the price announcement was staggering.Well, yeah, but be it Gaf or Reddit etc...any forum on the internet is always going to be an incredibly small sample size. Supply post launch and demand will be more interesting...has there been a console from Sony/Nintendo/MS that's actually been DOA?
That's a bit pedantic, we know what everyone thought, the console would be a flop. It's not a flop though.
That's a bit pedantic, we know what everyone thought, the console would be a flop. It's not a flop .
Wait, what? 20%(1) of all PS4 sold since Pro launch, is a pro. Ok, let's do a little math then.
November 2016 surpased 50 million sold (2), and now there is around 60,7 (3) million total, meaning sales of roughly 10,7 million from NOV16 til now.
So, above 2,14 million pre orders? Goddam.
(1) https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/06/11/ps4-pro-sales/
(2) http://www.********.com/article/268...wii-u-global-lifetime-salesapril-2017-update/
(3)http://www.********.com
I genuinely doubt anyone (or at least any reasonable person) thought the system's pre-orders wouldn't sell out. It could still be a flop. Wii U's pre-orders sold out very quickly.
Understood. So GAF's definition of DOA is selling way better than expected in pre-orders and selling out of stock reserves in a very short period of time.It's a good start it seems. But it's still too early to say this definitively
Understood. So GAF's definition of DOA is selling way better than expected in pre-orders and selling out of stock reserves in a very short period of time.
/s
You see why some people just get angry at how these discussions go?
This is just Amazon? I'd be shocked if no-money-down pre-orders didn't manage to surpass the PS4 Pro. Comparing no-investment pre-orders with actual sales is hilarious.
It's had more pre-orders than the 8 month sales of the Pro. How is that not an indicator of performance?I mean, the exact same thing happened with Wii U. In fact, the Wii U's pre-orders sold out at GameStop quicker than the X, which you can still pre-order.
I'm not saying the system won't have a great launch, but that doesn't tell us all that much in the long term. I mean, it could have a great 2018 or a horrible one, but the fact that it's pre-ordering well really isn't an indicator of its long term performance. Heck, it's not an indicator of its short term performance (beyond the first month or two).
It's sold more units in pre-order than 8 months of the Pro. How is that not an indicator of performance?
That's a bit pedantic, we know what everyone thought, the console would be a flop. It's not a flop though.