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LWA is an allegory about 2D in a CGI world.
GoldCrusader
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It's pretty good! Awesome fights, AMAZING music and great characters.
holy shit was watching this exact video
hosannainexcelsis
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The first and last episodes have good action animation, but otherwise it's a mediocre series.
Cool, I'll probably watch it sometime.
Yes, I was watching a Yutaka Nakamura MAD and I came across some of his work for that film so I was curious.
SliceSabre
Banned
duckroll forced like a quarter of the thread to watch it.
It was a great watch. Had some badass fights in.
Wow nobody insults Kana Hanazawa around me and gets away with it.
Where were you last year when I made EVERYONE watch it. Lol.
hosannainexcelsis
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That was really a mistake. Oh well.
Jokes on you, I'd already watched it long before that!
Also, how do you feel about this?
The first and last time I entrusted myself to Duckroll hype.
The quintessential, "watch it on sakugabooru" show.
With a protagonist that could rival Shirou in the battle of wits and brains.
Did I miss something ? The last scene pretty much shows you she knew nothing other than that he lives apart from his family .
Cornbread78
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Gargantia ep.12
That was a pretty awesome battle from the ground ships as well as the mecha battle in the air. I love it when an episode can get you pumped for a battle and this one did a great job of it!
That was a pretty awesome battle from the ground ships as well as the mecha battle in the air. I love it when an episode can get you pumped for a battle and this one did a great job of it!
OniBarubary
Banned
I think I'm gonna rewatch a bunch of old 80s and 90s OVAs I remember dearly to see if they're as dumb as I remember them.
Let's start with Photon, because yeah, okay.
Let's start with Photon, because yeah, okay.
LWA 07
Comedy highlight was Akko's freakout after sending Professor Pisces down the drain. I liked her telling off the poacher, too.
It was nice to see the side characters show off what they're good at and get a bit of development, too. The most important thing was Ursula forcefully standing up for Akko, though, finally becoming the sort of advocate and ally she's really needed all along.
Comedy highlight was Akko's freakout after sending Professor Pisces down the drain. I liked her telling off the poacher, too.
It was nice to see the side characters show off what they're good at and get a bit of development, too. The most important thing was Ursula forcefully standing up for Akko, though, finally becoming the sort of advocate and ally she's really needed all along.
Everyone but me.
nintendoman58
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And me.
Well you don't watch anything so that's to be expected.
SliceSabre
Banned
duckroll, do what you must with these two.
[Late, late addendum to the past discussion.]
Then they should have planned out their story better ? Making a consistent world where things don't "just" happen at writers convenience is one of the hallmarks of good writer I dare say. Otherwise you just end up with Bleach. And what happens in the last episode isn't a little thing, it's the crucial point of resolution to a major arc with lessons for Mob and plethora of general preaching from Reigen.
Kuzu no Honkai 06
The descent of Moka&Mugi's descent to the path of scum in particular was awfully sudden and even with Hanabi&Sanae, its not a direction of things I'm particularly fond of.
Then they should have planned out their story better ? Making a consistent world where things don't "just" happen at writers convenience is one of the hallmarks of good writer I dare say. Otherwise you just end up with Bleach. And what happens in the last episode isn't a little thing, it's the crucial point of resolution to a major arc with lessons for Mob and plethora of general preaching from Reigen.
This is to degree true but even then, it's clear that it's a very rare occurrence, for the viewer the first and given the specifics of Mob powers very possibly the first of the kind in the universe. Besides, there's a strong delineation a psychic skills among its users thus strengthening the impression that each is unique to them. The show also made quite a bit of how these powers require training in most cases and can be hard to control, yet Reigen, a total no-entity in the field does that casually. Finally, the transference wasn't even of Mob's accord or will IIRC. It was a completely random case of the power acting on its own, which was something completely new.
Kuzu no Honkai 06
And to think I thought these people were crazy in the first episode.
The descent of Moka&Mugi's descent to the path of scum in particular was awfully sudden and even with Hanabi&Sanae, its not a direction of things I'm particularly fond of.
I binged Another last night, which I rather enjoyed. The issues I have are that it starts off too slowly, uses music somewhat poorly (hamming up scenes that just aren't scary), and things like random to cuts to dolls to be "scary" (at least early on).
But, I found the premise to be genuinely creepy and the plot is told rather well. There are red herrings all over the place, but in hindsight, the clues for the "real killer" weren't buried. The typical "dumb horror actions" tend to actually be well rationalized and even help solve the mystery in a meta way. Also, I liked the approach Another took to some of the kills. Some of them are the random happenstance style used in Final Destination, but a fair amount of the deaths are clever in that they very plausibly would have died, regardless of any "curse" or whatever. The blend of both styles works really well, though I'd prefer less of the Final Destination type deaths. Especially in the finale, where they were kind of hilarious.
The finale could have certainly been better executed, but I don't want to really spoil anything. Just that Akazawa deserved better. Based on the differences that I've read, the book does not have many of the problems the anime has (though, 600 pages does seem too long for the story so the pacing may be slow, too).
As an aside: Why do the english subtitles translate things like "onii/onee-chan" to the brother/sister's name? I also notice that english uses "you"/"yours" whereas the characters sounds like they are fully speaking the names.
But, I found the premise to be genuinely creepy and the plot is told rather well. There are red herrings all over the place, but in hindsight, the clues for the "real killer" weren't buried. The typical "dumb horror actions" tend to actually be well rationalized and even help solve the mystery in a meta way. Also, I liked the approach Another took to some of the kills. Some of them are the random happenstance style used in Final Destination, but a fair amount of the deaths are clever in that they very plausibly would have died, regardless of any "curse" or whatever. The blend of both styles works really well, though I'd prefer less of the Final Destination type deaths. Especially in the finale, where they were kind of hilarious.
The finale could have certainly been better executed, but I don't want to really spoil anything. Just that Akazawa deserved better. Based on the differences that I've read, the book does not have many of the problems the anime has (though, 600 pages does seem too long for the story so the pacing may be slow, too).
As an aside: Why do the english subtitles translate things like "onii/onee-chan" to the brother/sister's name? I also notice that english uses "you"/"yours" whereas the characters sounds like they are fully speaking the names.
The transference was according to Mobs emotions/subconsciousness like every other of his outbreaks.
It was '100% gratitude' about Reigen 'shouldering' the whole situation instead of him, allowing Mob to 'run away', which is pretty much exactly what the power transference represents.
I don't get what is hard to understand about this. It has been shown from the beginning that Mobs powers are heavily influenced by his emotions and subconsciousness, so different emotional outbreaks having different effects feels kind of expected to me, and his previous outbreaks were always associated with negative emotions.
Mobs powers were also never shown to be limited, like the other espers. He could fly, do telekinesis and exorcise at the very least. To me it always came off as other espers having specialised skills whereas Mob could control 'pure psychic power' in any way he saw fit, so again transference isn't exactly something that clashes with that.
And the point about Reigen being able to completely control his new powers feels weird, isn't this basically the point of power transference/borrowing in most fiction?
Nana ep.1
And thus, a new journey has begun. I'm not sure where this journey will be taking me, but I can already tell that this "boyfriend" will be a douche after his actions from the first episode. I difference in personality between the two Nana's should be fun to watch though!
yay nana.
and I won't deny some characters are douches in the series
I found another to be a decent comedy
I didn't find it creepy or the plot well done at all, but I at least enjoyed the over the top deaths and the characters being complete morons to set up the over the top deaths.
Cornbread78
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Gargantia-END + Specials
Excellent conclusive battle to finish off the series. While they aren't happening frequently, they really go all out with the mecha battles in this show. They orchestrate the battles perfectly with the music in the background to set the stage for some epic battles; simply great production!
The story has a few holes in it, but they did they best to loop them together towards the end, but it led to a satisfactory conclusion. In the end, there was no
LOL.
Regardless, this was a pretty good watch and well worth my time spent watching it.
Excellent conclusive battle to finish off the series. While they aren't happening frequently, they really go all out with the mecha battles in this show. They orchestrate the battles perfectly with the music in the background to set the stage for some epic battles; simply great production!
The story has a few holes in it, but they did they best to loop them together towards the end, but it led to a satisfactory conclusion. In the end, there was no
shipping dammit, just open-ended shipping, blah, blah, blah.....
Regardless, this was a pretty good watch and well worth my time spent watching it.
Reigen doesn't completely control Mob's powers, all he does is just stroll around and casually slap away people's shit. Nothing fancy. The idea is that Mob's power is so much, much more powerful than the enemies that Reigen is impervious and has to do fuck-all to win. And it was Mob's subconscious decision, the anime makes it really obvious.
Also, how is this power transference radically different than a spirit like Dimple giving psychic powers through possession? He even helps the brother learn to control his power. But, if it really makes you feel better, I'll just say that this power transfer
isn't just a one off thing: multiple characters do it, and indeed, it is a rather important plot device for the rest of the arc.
NaDannMaGoGo
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@ Mob Psycho 100 stuff
I maybe wouldn't be so critical of Mob's psychic transference shenanigans if they weren't also used as character death subversion and even episode cliffhanger. That's just undeniably cheap writing and direction.
I maybe wouldn't be so critical of Mob's psychic transference shenanigans if they weren't also used as character death subversion and even episode cliffhanger. That's just undeniably cheap writing and direction.
I found it to be clever misdirection when coupled with the preview as mob's murderous explosion seemed unavoidable before we ended up conned just like the Reigen as leader episode ending earlier.
Cornbread78
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You are 100% correct, these "ships" are friggen' horrible is so many different ways I can't even count..
Both of the men in this case are going to be "preying" on the girls.
Mugi is going to take advantage of Moca's open "use me" by doing her dirty like he does his blond headed senpai.
Hanabi's need for affection and confusion over her own feelings, and those of someone much younger than him obviously, and try take her viginity at the same time (just like Mugi.)
Not sure I appreciate the writing there. I mean, I know it plays along with the "Scum" narrative of the show, but this is the potential "sexual abuse" I was referring to after the first episode that makes things really uncomfortable to watch.
Joe Molotov
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Woah, they've already advanced that far?
SliceSabre
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I think you're be too liberal with sexual abuse here since none of this is forced upon anybody.
If a person knows another person just wants to use them for sex, in both cases Moka and Hanabi know the guys just want them for sex, then it isn't abuse per say. Its just people being starved for attention and willing to submit to sex for it. Excluding the teacher of course, she just likes sex and fucking with people.
All the sex in this show has been completely consensual, the uncomfortable part is that these people don't love each other, or they do and are making selfish/bad decisions
I'll resume reading after the anime ends.
NaDannMaGoGo
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Well, I will be hard pressed to ever regard cliffhanger character death reversals, via unforeseen 'magical' powers no less, as clever misdirection.
In Reigen's case I can look back and say "hah, yeh, with his strong presence I could imagine the grunts expecting him to be their boss". It adds up.
For the power transference the best I can do is "well, I guess his powers are so loosely defined that this can happen. Ok."
I think you can make a case that what Ecchan is doing is coming pretty close to the line. Moca on the other hand is absolutely someone who loves Mugi so much that she is willing to take anything he'll give her, even if he doesn't care about her.
It's a bold show in terms of depiction of sex, after all.
Don't get me wrong, I'd be right there with you if it was any other character than Reigen but I think it's in line with the mistrust the viewer should have had for him as opposed to Mob's complete trust. I'm not really in a position to get too deep into this due to work and running off memory but it's something I'll keep an open mind about in the future when I really sit down with the show as I'd love to dig into it properly sometime, not rushing for a vote like I did the first time around.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
LWA TV 07
"A lot of people say we are outdated for using magic to repair things"
Excuse me what? How is that not the most useful...how can that possibly be outdated...Oh right, I guess I'm not supposed to question this stuff.
Honestly this school is fucking awful anyway. Nobody told Akko that the teacher was a fish?
"A lot of people say we are outdated for using magic to repair things"
Excuse me what? How is that not the most useful...how can that possibly be outdated...Oh right, I guess I'm not supposed to question this stuff.
Honestly this school is fucking awful anyway. Nobody told Akko that the teacher was a fish?
Cornbread78
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I think it goes along with the whole thought process behind how statutory rape is viewed. There is physical abuse, which is easy to detect, but there is also mental and psychological abuse that is much more understated and harder to detect.
This is clearly the case for those to and as Kraytar pointed out Ecchan as well.
Moca is clearly going to be exploited by Mugi and Hanadi by an older guy taking advantage of a younger highschool that clearly wants to cling on, but doesn't know what is "OK" and what isn't
While it's still not right, there is a mutual understanding between Mugi ad Hanabi, which makes it "OK" however, with these other two, the lines are clearly blurred and even breached of sorts, which is what makes both cases uncomfortable.. We all know "that guy" in school that took advantage of a girl or girls and even if they "consented" you know EVERYTHING about the situation was 100% wrong and unnatural.
Exactly... There are definite issues in both cases.
OK, Igotthatreference.gif
I'm a bad man for laughing at that too...
Yeah I mean, it would make smartphone repair much easier but??
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LWA operates on the principle of "magic is old therefore it's bad" without actually rationalizing why it might not be as good in a modern world. Mr. Strange and Jonathan Norrell did this much better. Magic is old and obsolete because people stopped learning how to do magic and it's extremely complicated and also dangerous.
Akko spills some dust on a broken radio and repairs it, that's useful as HECK.
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LWA operates on the principle of "magic is old therefore it's bad" without actually rationalizing why it might not be as good in a modern world. Mr. Strange and Jonathan Norrell did this much better. Magic is old and obsolete because people stopped learning how to do magic and it's extremely complicated and also dangerous.
Akko spills some dust on a broken radio and repairs it, that's useful as HECK.
They really fucked up here I think.
TRIGGER made an anime about a young talentless witch who goes to school to learn magic because magic is cool.
Fine.
But magic is losing public interest in the world of LWA because it's supposedly inferior to modern technology.
So they need to make magic fun for the viewers but also useless for it to make sense. Obviously they can't do both at the same time so it's just fun for the viewers and the other side of the story is a quagmire of question marks.
TRIGGER made an anime about a young talentless witch who goes to school to learn magic because magic is cool.
Fine.
But magic is losing public interest in the world of LWA because it's supposedly inferior to modern technology.
So they need to make magic fun for the viewers but also useless for it to make sense. Obviously they can't do both at the same time so it's just fun for the viewers and the other side of the story is a quagmire of question marks.
Joe Molotov
Member
I got caught up on KiraKira☆Pretty Cure A La Mode.
Better than Kemono Friends. Yellow is super good.
Better than Kemono Friends. Yellow is super good.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
There's a difference between inconsistent world building and world building that doesn't lay out every rule and possibility at the beginning. A writer of fiction, especially in the context of a serialized narrative that's going to be going on for years, shouldn't have to preface the beginning of his story with "here is every rule of what can happen in my fictional world that I am going strictly adhere to for the next 7 years."
When in doubt, nanomachines.
SliceSabre
Banned
The Mugi/Moca thing really is about his morals rather than anything legal, Mugi isn't preying on Moca because he was never interested in her from the start. Hell he actually seems to think she's annoying. Would Mugi be wrong for having sex with her when she is 'throwing' herself at him because she's so infatuated with him? I wouldn't be surprised that a teenage boy bites at the opportunity nor am I surprised she's taking this opportunity to go out with him knowing he doesn't love her.
NaDannMaGoGo
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I had little interest in LWA but had it turned out to be a good Harry Potter-esque anime series I would've gladly watched it.
Instead everything you folks say about the workings of magic etc. sound like one of the most boring wizarding worlds I've heard of. That the magical powers requires proximity to some magical stone/tower already sounds like a buzzkill³.
Instead everything you folks say about the workings of magic etc. sound like one of the most boring wizarding worlds I've heard of. That the magical powers requires proximity to some magical stone/tower already sounds like a buzzkill³.
That can actually be really good if the writer knows how to subvert those rules as it lures the audience into a state where they think they know all the feasible outcomes. That of course relies on a writer that knows what they're doing in that the rules are stringent enough for it to be feasible but also has enough loopholes so they're not cheating.
That's something I liked about early Artemis Fowl actually.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Scept we're in a strictly grounded present day (so far) and not a paramilitary sci-fi future so they can't :Kojima their way out of this one
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