PhoncipleBone
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Worked well for Colossal.
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Wkd BO 0811-1317 - Annabelle conjures up #1, Dark Tower Falls
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What has happened to the wonderful thread title?
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Saucycarpdog
Member
I'm gonna be that guy.
$80+ million OW for IT.
$80+ million OW for IT.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
I say with no reservations that IT has the most hype, online and off, of any horror film I can recall. Barring apocalyptic bad reviews, I will be shocked if it opens with less than $70M
DarkLordMalik
Member
Not just the title but Xaos' tag is gone too. Gone but not forgotten.
Never managed to figure out his tag so I dunno.
If Dunkirk hits $500M, Nolan becomes the first director in history to have 5 films in a row over $500M worldwide.
Here are a list of the directors who managed 4 films in a row over that mark:
George Lucas (Star Wars + Prequel Trilogy)
Peter Jackson (LOTR trilogy + King Kong)
David Yates (Harry Potter 5-8)
Pierre Coffin (Director of Minions, Co-director of all the Despicable Me films)
Coffin is the only other director with an active run going on. The Russos will join the club in 2019, assuming they don't sneak a smaller film out between the next two Avengers movies.
ww chart added
aside: it all started as me just wanting to "contribute" to the forum in some meagre way and seeing an empty spot to fill. I can understand and see that Box Office GAF is sooooooo much bigger than just me. I'm glad peeps have a place to chill and chat. I'm sorry about the bad thread title(s). This one in particular was probably too vulgar. I apologize.
i can/will keep making the threads unless (i get banned or die or something, LOL) peeps object. It's all good.
<3 y'all!
Good to hear!
From my pitch hitter experience, making the thread takes 30-60 minutes. Grabbing all the info off of RT and Metacritic is pretty tedious, even if you have some shortcuts worked out. That's a sizable chunk of your Sunday to be donating to GAF 50+ times a year.
DarkLordMalik
Member
I never doubted Nolan
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Yeah, making threads like these are a lot of work. Even using a basic formula for he op like these do still means a lot of work.
Xaos is doing great work.
Xaos is doing great work.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
It's kind of insulting his tag is now just "member" and not something related to his bpx office threads.
This entire mod intervention has been a fiasco.
BronsonLee
Member
That movie was always gonna be limited release, don't put that on me!
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Your streak had to end, huh.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Where do you see the movie ending up? DOM and WW?
Too low IMO.
$58m OW/$130m DOM/$300m WW.
We demand this mods head.
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
On top of a long history behind the brand, Spiderman had the momentum and push of the MCU this iteration. Was expecting that it to be a bigger hit than it already is.
Obliterator
Member
Your comment though didn't make much sense. It seemed to imply that Spidey should be a much bigger film than Pirates when there is no former context to that.
On film Pirates is a bigger grossing franchise on average than Spidey is. It has 2 films over 1 billion, Spidey has 0
Shane Kim ran Microsoft Gaming Studios at one point I believe. No doubt it came out of the 360 v PS3 system wars stuff that was the status quo here for the first few years post-Gaming Age split.
GAF on a whole has become a bit less juvenile since the mid-00s though. Mean spirited and raunchy tags used to be more commonplace than they are now. You can still get tagged for being a dumb ass, but fewer of them read like they came out of a Jay and Silent Bob film.
Gentleman Jack
Member
You're the Vegeta of BOGAF. Accept it.
DarkLordMalik
Member
This has been brought up a lot in the past threads.
The marketing made it seem like an all out War movie while the actual movie is nowhere close to that (keep in mind I haven't personally seen it but just read the impressions). There are also complaints about the lackluster second half which drags down the whole movie. Overall for some people, it wasn't as good as Dawn even Rises so you can consider it a divisive movie.
Bad WOM and disappointing reactions to the movie from even the die-hard fans can be blamed for the lackluster box office for it.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Lots of people expected GotG Vol.2 and SM:H to be $1B movies, guess not. They still made a lot of money.
Yamcha of BOGAF
Gentleman Jack
Member
I'm trying to be nicer to Bronson.
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
the MCU was the context. thought that was obvious since its been the biggest story behind this iteration of the film franchise and one i expected to help it finally get it its 1Bil
Fine. Krillin of BO GAF. The height is a better match too.
xaosslug
Member
it came from a MS thread where Shane Kim said something about first to 10m wins the generation, I think?
i commented that every pearl of pre-cum MS thinks is a climax. And a mod clocked me on that one.
Obliterator
Member
I guess but a billion never seemed likely just like it didn't for Guardians 2. People just keep forgetting exchange rates aren't what they were a few years back. To a hit a billion right now the movie had to seriously break out in a huge way
Spidey is gonna do under what I thought, I went with $900 but it's plenty successful
DarkLordMalik
Member
Thanks for the explanation guys.it came from a MS thread where Shane Kim said something about first to 10m wins the generation, I think?
i commented that every pearl of pre-cum MS thinks is a climax. And a mod clocked me on that one.
I still believe that the bad WOM from the past two Amazing Spider-Man films coupled with this being a reboot so soon after the previous movies did a bit of damage at the box office, but it still held well and has grossed more than $300 million which is a victory for the movie as far as I am concerned.
Spider-Man Homecoming 2 will be the real test though. We will find out just how much people like this new Spider-Man by then.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
I've been adamant about an $80M opening for awhile, and I'll stick with that. DOM total is a lot trickier, but if the movie is as good as I think it is, then it will lear $200M. Horror films often have horrible legs, but the good ones hold on really well, see Signs, The Ring, Conjuring, Split, Get Out, etc.
Also working in the movie's favor in terms of word of mouth is *BOOK SPOILERS*
if it follows the novel to a tee (which I believe it will) all the main characters will live and the ending won't be downbeat.
Gentleman Jack
Member
They're...they're not going to leave...that...in the new film, are they?
LordOfLore
Banned
Isn't It supposed to just be the first half of the book?
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
Yes.
I fucked up saying "to a tee", they are not in any way including a scene that would guarantee an NC-17 rating
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
I wonder if we are seeing signs of MCU fatigue. Should be interesting to see if a pattern develops...
Good point.
What did he mean by this?
Member
IT is gonna beat Hannibal easily. I bet my name on it
SMH 2 comes out 2 weeks after Toy Story 4 and 2 weeks before The Lion King. I'm typically of the opinion that big movies can coexist at the box office but Sony really needs to move that date.
DarkLordMalik
Member
I still think Signs did well because it was released after the blockbuster success of The Sixth Sense. That movie had crazy legs and the end twist was perhaps one the most talked about thing during those years.
While good films can have good legs, there is always a ceiling for a genre. The Sixth Sense was a cultural phenomenon but IT won't have the same impact. $200 million gross is a lot for a horror movie. $150 million seems like with $80 million opening but like you said, horror movies are front-loaded and there are plenty of people who prefer to watch these type of movies at home instead of a theater. There are many examples of movies which became a hit in the home cinema while they flopped at theater.
There is no horror movie with such huge opening so you have films like Get Out and Split with low opening which had good WOM leading to more people coming out to see them in theaters leading to good legs for them. $80 million opening will cover majority of the horror fans and I don't think many people will keep seeing it back in cinema.
An example here is the Friday The 13th Reboot which opened great but tanked shortly afterwards.
Sent to die.
Disney: Thanks for the Spider-Man partnership. Now take $800M-1B in competition to close it out.
Eh, The Lion King seems more like a $1.5B+ type of film.
I meant domestic (btw the two)
Gentleman Jack
Member
Battle of the Titans! Who will win? Disney, Disney or Disney? Tune in!
Throw in TS4 and Disney takes the top 4 spots. WB has an "event" film in August, not sure what that could be.
I think that Toy Story 4 will take a domestic tumble from TS3. 3 was a perfect ending.
However, we all know that Toy Story 4 is there to sell toys. The film is a $200M commercial that we will pay for the priviledge of seeing. Toy Story 3 did close to $3B in merch within the first year or so.
However, we all know that Toy Story 4 is there to sell toys. The film is a $200M commercial that we will pay for the priviledge of seeing. Toy Story 3 did close to $3B in merch within the first year or so.
LordOfLore
Banned
Hell, even KH3 has a Toy Story world.
This Conjuring Universe is moving full steam ahead. There is a lot of goodwill in it even with the first Annabelle being poorly received.
The two Conjuring movies plus this new Annabelle have done a good job and with The Nun, The Crooked Man and The Conjuring 3 still coming, WB must be felling good about it.
The two Conjuring movies plus this new Annabelle have done a good job and with The Nun, The Crooked Man and The Conjuring 3 still coming, WB must be felling good about it.