That's actually looking really great to me IQ wise, always nice to see a game which supports real AA.
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Wolfenstein: The New Order; PC Performance Thread
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jaundicejuice
Member
This is an id Tech 5 game right? Are people encountering similar performance issues with this as some did with Rage? Mainly issues related to OpenGL or the mega-texture LOD pop-in.
xBladeM6x
Member
i7-3770k
660 Ti
16 GB RAM
Have everything turned up all the way (Ultra) with very minimal FPS drops, only when there are character interactions, but it's nothing serious. (Only like 60 -> 55). However I did turn Max PPF to 32 instead of 64, and Screen-Space Reflections to Disabled. This seems to make things run super smooth, and still look really good. I honestly don't notice a difference with them turned on or off anyways.
660 Ti
16 GB RAM
Have everything turned up all the way (Ultra) with very minimal FPS drops, only when there are character interactions, but it's nothing serious. (Only like 60 -> 55). However I did turn Max PPF to 32 instead of 64, and Screen-Space Reflections to Disabled. This seems to make things run super smooth, and still look really good. I honestly don't notice a difference with them turned on or off anyways.
ChawlieTheFair
pip pip cheerio you slags!
Win 8
GTX 680
i5 3570k @ 4.4
8GB Ram
Running maxed at 1080p, haven't done the console launch AA yet. But as is, rock solid 60, just got to the
level. Will try the AA tommorrow, hopefully framerate remains cool. Also, what is supposedly broken about in-game vsync? Seems to work fine for me, if not a lil dodgy in the menus.
GTX 680
i5 3570k @ 4.4
8GB Ram
Running maxed at 1080p, haven't done the console launch AA yet. But as is, rock solid 60, just got to the
train
xBladeM6x
Member
I just disable vsync in game, and force it + Triple Buffering in the Nvidia Control Panel.
Chance Hale
Member
Weirdly enough enabling triple buffering via the nvidia control panel for this game caused a ton of graphical artifacts to start appearing everywhere. Hasn't happened in other games before.
Also, are loading times between deaths rather long for anyone else?
Also, are loading times between deaths rather long for anyone else?
ChawlieTheFair
pip pip cheerio you slags!
Yes but what is the benefit of doing that in this particular game?
The in-game v-sync is of an adaptive type. If you render fewer than 60fps, you will experience tearing until the frame rate returns to 60.
If you disable v-sync in game and use triple buffering through inspector, it should result in a nicer experience as v-sync will be maintained through drops in frame rate.
OminoMichelin
Member
Looks like I'll have to wait for someone to mod it so that we can change the settings individually :/
Has anybody actually got sli working in this game? I've got the latest Nvidia beta drivers installed but my 2nd card isn't getting used. I checked Inspector and apparently the predefined sli mode is set to single card only. I tried changing it to AFR/AFR2 and although this resulted in the 2nd card being used I was only getting about 20fps.
I have sli 680's and game at 1440p so kinda need the sli to work.
I have sli 680's and game at 1440p so kinda need the sli to work.
BONKERS
Member
WOW. MSAA/In game AA that actually looks great?
Whoever decided on that should be given a high five, a pizza and a hug.
+1 for features that can be used in the future.
diggmcbadass
Member
This being the same engine as Rage, I guess the game won't run 120fps?
Brerlappin
Member
Okay, quick test video, 1440p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GALmQGu6Bc8
560ti 2GB, i7 4770k, 16GB ram, W7. Only with shadow maps and Dof set to medium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GALmQGu6Bc8
560ti 2GB, i7 4770k, 16GB ram, W7. Only with shadow maps and Dof set to medium
noomi
Member
No sir.... same thing here, also SLI 680's. Enabled both cards in inspector, but got the same result with FPS hanging around 25...
plagiarize
Banned
looks like I made the right call picking this up on PS4. I'll buy the PC version later this year when I upgrade should I want to replay it. Rage's PC launch was terrible. I loved the game mind, but the technical issues day one... man.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Sigh.
Seems this game will have to wait until I buy a new cpu (which isn't going to be for a while nothing else I'm playing right now is very cpu reliant)
If it was some pc exclusive that did something special I could understand but for some last gen console port that is basic singleplayer shooter it just sounds like a terrible port.
Oh well at least by the time I get a new cpu it'll have been <10 euros in a steam sale or free in some humble bundle.
i5-2500K @ 4.2 GHz
R9 280X (factory clocks)
8GB RAM
Win 8
1920x1080, everything on max except Shadow Resolution on 4k, Depth of Field on Medium and Screen Space Reflections disabled. Got some drops from 60fps but it was pretty rare and the drops were to ~50fps. Didn't try the launch options AA yet.
Only played around 1 hour from the beginning though.
R9 280X (factory clocks)
8GB RAM
Win 8
1920x1080, everything on max except Shadow Resolution on 4k, Depth of Field on Medium and Screen Space Reflections disabled. Got some drops from 60fps but it was pretty rare and the drops were to ~50fps. Didn't try the launch options AA yet.
Only played around 1 hour from the beginning though.
1-2 hours of playtime. Game plays well and looks decent, but I have experienced some significant problems on my setup. Somehow if I turn up my aditional settings to 'ultra' without changing anything else from the default 'high' settings on my MSI GTX 560 Ti 1GB (with an i5 2500k and 8GB of RAM, slight overclock on everything) my entire game just slows down to an unplayable FPS. The entire thing is smooth and steady on default 'high', even with v-sync on, but anything a slight notch above and I get like 5FPS or a crash. Same goes for the shadow setting and the reflection stuff (tried all of them seperately in the prologue part of the game).
I can understand that better texture settings are a problem on a 1GB card, but I'm pretty sure there is either an issue with my drivers or the game itself for the other stuff. The FPS difference is simply too extreme.
"Both Andy and I encountered extremely low framerates when playing through the tutorial - 2-5FPS, unplayably bad.
In my case, I resolved it by knocking the settings down to their lowest for this opening sequence, in which case I got 25FPS for most of the tutorial and 10-15FPS for a sequence involving cloth physics. This is on a 64bit system with a 3.3Ghz i5, 16Gb of RAM, and a GeForce GTX 560 Ti."
Well, there you go. Seems like I'll have to wait for a driver update to get the most out of the game. 560 Ti users beware!
I can understand that better texture settings are a problem on a 1GB card, but I'm pretty sure there is either an issue with my drivers or the game itself for the other stuff. The FPS difference is simply too extreme.
"Both Andy and I encountered extremely low framerates when playing through the tutorial - 2-5FPS, unplayably bad.
In my case, I resolved it by knocking the settings down to their lowest for this opening sequence, in which case I got 25FPS for most of the tutorial and 10-15FPS for a sequence involving cloth physics. This is on a 64bit system with a 3.3Ghz i5, 16Gb of RAM, and a GeForce GTX 560 Ti."
Well, there you go. Seems like I'll have to wait for a driver update to get the most out of the game. 560 Ti users beware!
http://www.pcgamer.com/uk/2014/05/2...ssues-the-problems-detailed-plus-a-few-fixes/
Is IdTech 5 the worst engine ever created?
Is IdTech 5 the worst engine ever created?
Brerlappin
Member
Not the worst, but defintiely up there with the worst. And it had such potential too, shame. I was genuinely excited to see what it could do before Rage launched. Sigh.
We will have to live through Evil Within and Doom. Hopefully Arkane will not be bullied by Zenimax, and they will use their own preferred engines [Dishonored was UE3].
This what changing shadows does to me. Other settings were fine though.
Definitely one of the all-time worst. A flat out bad idea, it's such a dated looking thing. Even if we had unlimited disc space, we'd still have to suffer the horrible lighting, shading, and pretty much horrible everything it offers. Carmack's biggest blunder and directly responsible for id's spiral into irrelevance. Look at this game, it should be running at 60 fps on potatoes. I feel sorry for the devs Zenimax forced into using IT5.
I feel this is a little harsh. I really enjoyed RAGE, but I came to it years after release and didn't have the expectations that many must have had.
The only technical problems I had related to SLI. If I want to play it, I have to disable one GPU in device manager, otherwise GPU Transcoding is unavailable.
This is with a very good GPU that has 3GB VRAM, but I just didn't have a texture streaming problem. I even tweaked the texture size up to improve fidelity a bit. I haven't played Wolfenstein yet (it's downloading), but I find it hard to believe that it has "horrible lighting, shading (?), pretty much horrible everything" given how good RAGE looked most of the time.
id acknowledged they dropped the ball concerning the RAGE release. To my mind a lot of these problems stem from the sorry state of vendor OpenGL drivers, a situation that does not seem to have improved much from reading recent developer blogs on the subject.
Turin Turambar
Member
Id Tech 5 gave good performance on limited hardware (consoles) and great variety of textures.
In exchange, it had
-very low res textures
-pop-in textures while turning
-nice but very static and flat baked-in lightning
-very limited (read none) interaction or destruction with the environment
-limited polycount (though this is more a choice to move at 60fps in consoles)
All together, I don't think that having non-repeating textures was worth the price it had to be paid.
And I enjoyed Rage as a game!
In exchange, it had
-very low res textures
-pop-in textures while turning
-nice but very static and flat baked-in lightning
-very limited (read none) interaction or destruction with the environment
-limited polycount (though this is more a choice to move at 60fps in consoles)
All together, I don't think that having non-repeating textures was worth the price it had to be paid.
And I enjoyed Rage as a game!
Using a GTX 780 Ti OC, 8gb Ram, i7 2600K@4.4, everything maxed, with VSync+Triple Buffering and the 4x MSAA flag at 1080p.
The performance seems to stay at 60 fps for the most part, however there are the occasional dips down to 55.
The GPU however is exhibiting odd behavior. it jumps between ~60% usage and ~99% almost constantly - i dont know why that is. Even when I am standing there, just looking in one direction, the GPU keeps jumping - this does not happen with other games - however it has been a very long time since i've played anything using OpenGL.
The performance seems to stay at 60 fps for the most part, however there are the occasional dips down to 55.
The GPU however is exhibiting odd behavior. it jumps between ~60% usage and ~99% almost constantly - i dont know why that is. Even when I am standing there, just looking in one direction, the GPU keeps jumping - this does not happen with other games - however it has been a very long time since i've played anything using OpenGL.
Guerrillas in the Mist
Member
As someone still rocking 560TI, it'll be interesting to see how it runs for me.
Maxed out in 1080p, is your CPU oc'd?