Big Baybee
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It was ok, saw it last night. Easily the best DC universe movie so far.
Never really cared for the WW theme, but fuck me, I saw Hans Zimmer live on Friday, and the WW segment was one of the greatest things I've ever seen live. The female performers at the front of the stage just rocking the fuck out (not my video)
Never really cared for the WW theme, but fuck me, I saw Hans Zimmer live on Friday, and the WW segment was one of the greatest things I've ever seen live. The female performers at the front of the stage just rocking the fuck out (not my video)
Saw the movie. It was good, with the highlight easily being the No Man's Land scene. Like that lead-up with them saying "We can't do anything to help" over and over until she finally does help. It's a great denial of the universal cynicism.
Watched it last night, the humour was great and the action scenes were top notch.
Why oh why with that fucking forced romance though seriously. She literally falls in love with the first man she meets. There is a literal trope about this.
It was completely unnecessary in an otherwise empowering film.
It's like they said "let's be feminist but not TOO feminist"
As for the romance, yes I thought it was absolutely necessary. I think that all of the great epic classic films that I was basing the movie on had that as an integral part of them, and I wanted Dianas story to have EVERYTHING no lesser than any other superhero. Its not about her needing anybody, its about her deserving someone amazing.
Watched it last night, the humour was great and the action scenes were top notch.
Why oh why with that fucking forced romance though seriously. She literally falls in love with the first man she meets. There is a literal trope about this.
It was completely unnecessary in an otherwise empowering film.
It's like they said "let's be feminist but not TOO feminist"
I really disagree with this line of thinking. Every single male superhero gets to have a "fucking forced romance" and people don't bat an eye at it. Diana being attracted to someone and desiring companionship doesn't make her weak or unempowered, those are things nearly everyone desires. Holding female heroes to some weird standard of "she don't need no man" isn't empowering, it's limiting. It's just another way to force female characters into specific boxes, and honestly, probably does more harm then good. It reinforces the idea that: "If you want a companion in this life, you better not be tough and outspoken!"
I'd also argue that the Diana/Steve romance is the furthest thing from "forced" and, in many ways, is the relationship that the entire film hinges on. It's probably the best love story in a CBM, for me, since Raimi's Spidey films.
And the fact that it is the single best superhero romance ever put to film is just a fantastic bonus on top. And I'm serious about that, no other couple in the superhero movie world comes close.
It didn't start with the dance. The road toward romance started all the way back in the naked pool scene. #BestSuperheroMovieCoupleEverDiana/Steve didn't really stand out to me, to be honest. Like, they had good chemistry as two people, but the romance angle didn't come naturally for me. It's like, okay, now they dance, now they fuck, now he's in love with her, now he's dead.
She's obviously attractive but Steve talks to her like a child half the time, and I felt primarily curiosity from Diana rather than any sort of longing or attraction.
If the message they were going for is "Wonder Woman can have a romance subplot just as trite and formulaic as any male superhero!" they succeeded, I guess.
And the fact that it is the single best superhero romance ever put to film is just a fantastic bonus on top. And I'm serious about that, no other couple in the superhero movie world comes close.
Seen it today, loved most of it.
Kinda seemed like some of the special effects could have used a few more minutes in the oven, but really, I dont have much to complain about.
I think the last act could've been boring 'let's fight this big old supernatural thing' but was saved and became something great because of the emotional investment in it of the characters and the audience. I was moved by Diana and Steve's relationship, and Steve's sacrifice, and her realisation, way more than I have been by any 'love story' in any superhero movie before. I was also impressed by the ballsy move to stand loud and proud with the whole LOVE and HUMANITy message. Is it a little corny? Sure! Is it unlike any CBM and touching because of the earnestness of the two main characters? Absolutely. It's bold stuff and elevates the movie.
Never really cared for the WW theme, but fuck me, I saw Hans Zimmer live on Friday, and the WW segment was one of the greatest things I've ever seen live. The female performers at the front of the stage just rocking the fuck out (not my video)
Watched the movie yestereday, enjoyed it a lot, easily the best DCEU, liked it more than a few MCU movies like Captain America 1 but I can't believe critics scored it higher than Guardians of the Galaxy 2. And people said critics were more lenient towards Marvel lol.
What ? this is terrible, like a fucking mess and holy shit, I hope no one is epileptic...
Not the guy you're replying to, but I've gone to plenty of concerts and none of them lit the stage like a rave for literally a whole song. Orchestral performances usually don't have any sort of special effects lighting either; the music is supposed to speak for itself.Don't go to concerts much? That seems pretty par for the course, and how on earth is it a fucking mess?
Watched the movie yestereday, enjoyed it a lot, easily the best DCEU, liked it more than a few MCU movies like Captain America 1 but I can't believe critics scored it higher than Guardians of the Galaxy 2. And people said critics were more lenient towards Marvel lol.
Watched the movie yestereday, enjoyed it a lot, easily the best DCEU, liked it more than a few MCU movies like Captain America 1 but I can't believe critics scored it higher than Guardians of the Galaxy 2. And people said critics were more lenient towards Marvel lol.
I'm one of the minority guys that apparently didn't think GotG2 was so hot. Some reason it just didn't do it for me like the first did.
I also saw Logan for the first time last night which was much better than GotG2 IMO. Like WW the third act is a little bit of a mess, and has a little too much exposition; but the concept of a character movie first, super hero movie second was great to see. Still, I think it's more tame last battle is something WW should have looked toward.
you don't need the boat. Steven crashed with a fighter plane which have a very limited range. Which puts the islands somewhere in the Aegaen sea.As I have said to friends, when GotG2 is the worst comicbook flick of the year, it's a great year.
Logan > WW > GotG2, but GotG2 is solid.
Aside, I see yet another comment about where Themysryra is based on the size of their boat. Steve says in the movie that they got towed while Diana was sleeping, but given how often this comes up, I assume people miss it a lot.
you don't need the boat. Steven crashed with a fighter plane which have a very limited range. Which puts the islands somewhere in the Aegaen sea.
Even getting towed the travel from there to London would take multiple days and it made no sense for Diana to miss docking on another boat anyways. Nor for the boat to take them all the way there.
So yeah this one of those movies wich is even better with a second viewing.
Aside, I see yet another comment about where Themysryra is based on the size of their boat. Steve says in the movie that they got towed while Diana was sleeping, but given how often this comes up, I assume people miss it a lot.
So yeah this one of those movies wich is even better with a second viewing.
Never followed Wonder Woman, but this movie made me want a WB Games/Rocksteady Wonder Woman game.
If I lived on an island of men my entire life, I can absolutely assure you that I would fall in love with the first woman I met, and she wouldn't even have to be gorgeous.Watched it last night, the humour was great and the action scenes were top notch.
Why oh why with that fucking forced romance though seriously. She literally falls in love with the first man she meets. There is a literal trope about this.
It was completely unnecessary in an otherwise empowering film.
It's like they said "let's be feminist but not TOO feminist"
She'd just need to be above average, I'd say.If I lived on an island of men my entire life, I can absolutely assure you that I would fall in love with the first woman I met, and she wouldn't even have to be gorgeous.
She'd just need to be above average, I'd say.
She'd just need to be above average, I'd say.
How do you get an an average when your sample size is 1?