It's wrestlemania. But it felt like Monday Night RAW
That's reaching. Don't be silly.
It's wrestlemania. But it felt like Monday Night RAW
Totally! It was exactly like the last Monday Night Raw that had Rock v. Cena, Taker v. HHH, and Punk v. Jericho. I felt like I was watching a repeat.
There were 9 matches (including the dark match), and 6 of those 9 matches combined for 39:10 of wrestling. Of those 6 matches, 3 were championship matches, and 1 of them was a 12 man tag team match.
You want to know what the 3 shortest matches of these 9 were I'll tell you. The triple threat tag titles match, the WHC match, and the IC title match. combined match length: 10 minutes, 47 seconds.
I think Brodus Clay got more time than that. I think the crappy live performances we got before cena and rock's intros were longer than that. They were definitely longer than each of those 3 title matches individually.
Ads got more time than that. On a $60 PPV.
backstage segments got more time than that.
Which match was the classic?
The GM tag match was something that should have been done on RAW; waste of time and would've served better purpose to have a MitB Ladder match. Instead that gets treated as a gimmick to an awful PPV.
oh and did I mention this was WRESTLEMANIA?
I keep saying it and now people starting to get the idea. the only way the business surives is through its female wreslers and not the men and until somebody gets that clear this is the best its ever gonna be.
Yeah, that was my reaction too.NoRéN;36583763 said:
Yeah, that was my reaction too.
Its a sad state of affairs. Kids Love Cena, He sells merch like nobody else - but the business is going no where fast. When the Rock beat him and you see the reations, you see the major problem the business has. You have nobody that people can respect on both sides. Danialson could have been one but Vince in his supposed wisdom trolled us. CM Punk and Jericho should have never ever mailed it in. Cena and Rock is a microcosm of everthing that has happened in the media realm since the UFC gained popularity.
People do not have the time nor the money to spend on 60 buck HD PPV's with matches that only go 10 mins for 3 matches. Have they not realized that already?
I even believe that the titles dont even matter anymore - they should get rid of them. Its simple. Nobody cares. The writers dont care. The wrestlers care up to a point. The younger fanbase dont care unless Cena has it. The rest of the business has such a production deficoncy that anybody trying to be better loses.
The only way out is for the product to degrade to such a point where they will have no choice but to produce better match types. By then it will be too late.
I keep saying it and now people starting to get the idea. the only way the business surives is through its female wreslers and not the men and until somebody gets that clear this is the best its ever gonna be.
What i mean was that the male mid card in the wwe has been so degraded that a female wrestler from WWE or any promotion will out sell them. That incudes both Bryan and CM Punk.
What i mean was that the male mid card in the wwe has been so degraded that a female wrestler from WWE or any promotion will out sell them. That incudes both Bryan and CM Punk.
What i mean was that the male mid card in the wwe has been so degraded that a female wrestler from WWE or any promotion will out sell them. That incudes both Bryan and CM Punk.
Get out. Now.
What i mean was that the male mid card in the wwe has been so degraded that a female wrestler from WWE or any promotion will out sell them. That incudes both Bryan and CM Punk.
NoRéN;36584071 said:I always hope you occasionally start posting in Muscle Man's character.
What could they have done if D-Bry and Sheamus had gone out there and just said fuck it and improved a good solid 15 minute match? What was Vince gonna go, run out and say ring the damn bell? Fire Bryan? If that's how they're gonna treat him why does he even care?
Because WWE pays very well.
WM sucked cause it was supposed to suck. The WWE sucks now, and has sucked for years. Very few people left who know how to put on a good match, and one of the guys who does gets squashed in 18 seconds, lol.
WM27 had 30 mins of rock promo segments, 10 min WHC match, and one of the worst booked main events in WM history. The fact that it was MIz/Cena just puts it on another lever of shittyness. WM28 the promos were cut in half I assume due to time, Taker/HHH was just as good if not better then last year, the last 10 mins of Jericho/punk was amazing and smart, and rock/Cena was really fun...What did you expect really? Everyone knew the match was going to be built around atmosphere and it delievered. Are we going to start bashing rock/hogan now just because the match was decent? It's like you guys expect 5 star matches across the board where not one single WM has ever had that.
Don't worry guys, I was filming GAF watching Rock/Cena last night for historical archives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ATVk9ZbqQ
WM27 had 30 mins of rock promo segments, 10 min WHC match, and one of the worst booked main events in WM history. The fact that it was MIz/Cena just puts it on another lever of shittyness. WM28 the promos were cut in half I assume due to time, Taker/HHH was just as good if not better then last year, the last 10 mins of Jericho/punk was amazing and smart, and rock/Cena was really fun...What did you expect really? Everyone knew the match was going to be built around atmosphere and it delievered. Are we going to start bashing rock/hogan now just because the match was decent? It's like you guys expect 5 star matches across the board where not one single WM has ever had that.
I guarantee that had Sheamus and Bryan were given 10 or even 5 minutes people would not have been as negative as they are now.
WM 27 was horrible, so being better than that means nothing. They're also charging a crazy amount for the show, so people should expect better. Also, people aren't expecting crazy matches all over, but an 18 second World title match is reason enough to be pissed. A good match in Taker/HHH, 10 good minutes of Punk/Jericho, and a lazy main event that featured awkward wrestling and a lack of a coherent story is not worth $65.WM27 had 30 mins of rock promo segments, 10 min WHC match, and one of the worst booked main events in WM history. The fact that it was MIz/Cena just puts it on another lever of shittyness. WM28 the promos were cut in half I assume due to time, Taker/HHH was just as good if not better then last year, the last 10 mins of Jericho/punk was amazing and smart, and rock/Cena was really fun...What did you expect really? Everyone knew the match was going to be built around atmosphere and it delievered. Are we going to start bashing rock/hogan now just because the match was decent? It's like you guys expect 5 star matches across the board where not one single WM has ever had that.
WM 27 was horrible, so being better than that means nothing. They're also charging a crazy amount for the show, so people should expect better. Also, people aren't expecting crazy matches all over, but an 18 second World title match is reason enough to be pissed. A good match in Taker/HHH, 10 good minutes of Punk/Jericho, and a lazy main event that featured awkward wrestling and a lack of a coherent story is not worth $65.
I like how Hogan Rock was half the time, so it wasn't long and drawn out like this main event was and had better spots that had the crowd going wild.
I'm not saying people shouldn't have enjoyed it or felt that they got their money's worth, but other people who don't feel that way are totally justified too. I agree with you, though, about not watching anymore.Everyone enjoyed the show a different way. You can't say no one got their money's worth because that's completely false. Lots of people here feel that way sure, but plenty of people enjoyed it too. Yeah the price is high, but all PPV have gone up in general have they not?
How much actual fighting do you get in UFC or Boxing? Hell most of those cards are non-stop analysis. But most people don't complain about that. Or do they?
I don't really have a problem voicing an opinion but why not just stop watching? It's like you love torturing yourselves. I don't..understand.
WWE ain't what it used to be, but every summer since I started re-watching has always been it's best months. (no competition perhaps?) Jericho/HBK, Summer of Punk '09, The Nexus, Summer of Punk '11. Even if WM was bad I knew that at least Summer was coming. IF this summer sucks, there's no hope for me.
WM 27 got worse the more it went on, save for Taker/Trips II, WM 28 got better as it went along, but when you have a crappy opening it can really put a damper on the rest of the night.
I guarantee that had Sheamus and Bryan were given 10 or even 5 minutes people would not have been as negative as they are now.
There is no need to point this out.Punk vs. Bryan on a random Smackdown was better than any match at Wrestlemania last night.
What I learned after yesterday was that finishing moves mean nothing. BTW, Cena had already kicked out of the PE.So we haven't heard any kind of backstage rumblings about why they decided to make Bryan looks like useless dogshit, make the title look less legit than the diva's title, and rob Sheamus of an opportunity to look like a strong champion rather than a lucky one?
On a somewhat related note, as much as I enjoyed the spectacle and entertainment aspect of HHH/Taker, it made it hard to believe that a single rock bottom would put away "superman" cena, while two wrestlers at the ends of their careers could go through a match of nothing but finishers and chair shots and still kick out. It made every other wrestler looks like a giant pussy.
I'm not saying people shouldn't have enjoyed it or felt that they got their money's worth, but other people who don't feel that way are totally justified too. I agree with you, though, about not watching anymore.
Nah, I've already said that I'm gone once Kane and Taker retire.I usually don't complain too much but what they did with D. Bryan upset me. I can understand if it was Diesel or Warrior..you know guys who can't wrestle... Ridiculous.
I can let it slide, but I can understand people being unforgiving. But please don't say you will quit watching in protest and then keep watching. Make a stand if that's what you really believe.
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On a somewhat related note, as much as I enjoyed the spectacle and entertainment aspect of HHH/Taker, it made it hard to believe that a single rock bottom would put away "superman" cena, while two wrestlers at the ends of their careers could go through a match of nothing but finishers and chair shots and still kick out. It made every other wrestler looks like a giant pussy.
Nah, I've already said that I'm gone once Kane and Taker retire.
If anything I think Bryan and Shaemus will be in the doghouse. They were expected to finish their match faster than they did. Yes you heard right it was intended to be faster than Chavos squash
If anything I think Bryan and Shaemus will be in the doghouse. They were expected to finish their match faster than they did. Yes you heard right it was intended to be faster than Chavos squash