RedNumberFive
Banned
I don't disagree. I just think that it should be part of Gold considering it provides absolutely no value at the moment. They're convincing you guys to double dip again - and succeeding!
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Xbox Fitness Pass (paid subscription service)
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I don't disagree. I just think that it should be part of Gold considering it provides absolutely no value at the moment. They're convincing you guys to double dip again - and succeeding!
FonkyByNature
Member
Haha, good one !
TrueGrime
Member
No kidding. Especially if the first year is free. It is at least good to try. I know for a fact it will cost less than what I pay for 24 hour gym in a month. Not to mention that CD programs like P90X, Insanity, etc.. are outrageously expensive too.
It's free for a year*. That's the incentive. If it's good enough, I will double dip. Interactive P90x sounds really awesome to me. I always wanted to try it out, but really couldn't excuse the cost, when I could just go to a gym.
*With Gold.
I knew you were joking when you compared them to hamburgers. Hamburgers make more noise than gamers in Playstation online games.
Charge whatever is fair for the fitness app. But why make people interested in it double dip for the XBL-Gold membership? It's almost as if they're begging people to leave the Xbox ecosystem.
He also interrupts the other models to correct their technique
No one knows yet that's the point. And that's why it's a good thing MS made it free for a year.
Captain Tuttle
Member
You guys? I'm not getting an Xbox One, at least not for a long time. I'll likely hold off on a PS4 as well until I learn more about the Steambox thingie
RedNumberFive
Banned
One set of those DVDs and a PS4 is less than an Xbone and a year of Gold.
Yep. I'd happily sign up and pay for a streaming fitness program because they're really expensive standalone, but I think it's abnormal that MS is forcing the XBLG tax in front of practically any app that requires an internet connection. It's the principle, damnit!
But the free first year is a definite plus. You can get through both insanity and p90x in less than half a year, and they each cost like 120-140 bucks.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
Are you serious? Why don't people just use a video instead of a personal trainer then.
PrimaNocta
Member
We can try it free for a year? Sounds good to me.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
The difference being this being a sub means it can evolve over time. I bet they add new videos and workouts for subscribers. I'm not so certain this will just be P90X plopped onto the service, I can see it being custom content made specifically for Xbox fitness by the trainers.
astronaughtE
Banned
People complaining about 2nd subsciption. Think of it as gym dues, or a fat tax.
Hamster Plugin
Member
It's not the same thing at all. We're laughing at you needing Gold to access the subscription you paid for.
Music Unlimited and PS Plus are entirely separate services. You don't need the other to use the other one like you need Gold to access Fitness here. To play video games online, you need PS Plus but it won't get you music. To stream music, you need Music Unlimited but you do not need PS Plus for it.
TrueGrime
Member
I just have to see the price in order to see if it is well worth a second subscription. I mean.. you're getting it free for a year. You're telling me that getting a year's worth free before deciding to go with it or not is a bad thing?
As for the XBL subscription. I make it a point not to bitch over the subscriptions or any other apps behind the paywall. You still have to pay for those other apps too. Right now I pay $90 for internet, $80 for phone, $50 for cable, etc.. a month. I pay $60 a year for live which is by far the cheapest subscription I pay right now. I can say that if this program is worth it, another subscription won't break my bank. Especially when I'm forking over $500 + 3 games at $60 for launch.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
Is the PS4 going to measure your heartrate? See that you are using the correct muscles etc?
flyinpiranha
Member
I think the Live paywall to access these other paid services is bullshit. I really wish they were separate entities. I don't game that much online and the services that Live offers me now aren't worth my $40-60/year.
I completely disagree with that aspect of their setup.
That said, this is pretty awesome. This is something I wanted with the P90X videos did. If they have stat tracking and able to talk to Kinect to input info (weight, reps, etc ... ) that would be awesome.
I think this type of service is the correct vision for what MS wants these to become. The problem is that you need to pay first before you can pay for these.
It's like paying a $10 cover charge to get into a mall. Or paying for iTunes so you can buy music. The point being, if you are selling additional services for your console, don't have us pay yearly just to be able to shop for these services.
EDIT: How does Kinect monitor your heartrate?
I completely disagree with that aspect of their setup.
That said, this is pretty awesome. This is something I wanted with the P90X videos did. If they have stat tracking and able to talk to Kinect to input info (weight, reps, etc ... ) that would be awesome.
I think this type of service is the correct vision for what MS wants these to become. The problem is that you need to pay first before you can pay for these.
It's like paying a $10 cover charge to get into a mall. Or paying for iTunes so you can buy music. The point being, if you are selling additional services for your console, don't have us pay yearly just to be able to shop for these services.
EDIT: How does Kinect monitor your heartrate?
Are you just posting in this topic to persuade people to buy a PS4 or what? We get it, it's cheaper and more powerful. Let's face it, though, Microsoft has been putting things behind a paywall for years and year and year, people say it will hurt them, but it never does and it won't until Sony offers an online service that is undeniably better or equal.
I pay a lot for subscriptions each year too, but we're headed into a new console generation. The competition isn't charging for me to access apps that I already pay a subscription for, yet Microsoft continues to do so. Why? People, myself included, won't jump ship in huge numbers in the middle of a console lifecycle, but they'll jump at the start. It seems like Microsoft can't bring themselves to allow others to make money on their console without seeing a piece of it themselves. Not to be a drama queen, but I think that's going to be the death of them. Why are they so unwilling to capitulate on the paywall?
At least the gym gives you a facility filled to the brim with equipment. Just sayin'.
TrueGrime
Member
I fail to see the reasoning behind the paywall argument. Especially since that most of those apps you can view standalone on a PC. Or even better yet, my samsung TV let's you choose those apps to view. You just need to pay for the app of course.
I can understand if those apps were exclusive to XBL only, but if you can use them on devices other than an Xbox then what's the problem?
I can understand if those apps were exclusive to XBL only, but if you can use them on devices other than an Xbox then what's the problem?
It's certainly not impossible, but it doesn't make much business sense.
Syphon Filter
Member
I would say to go to the gym, not sure why people need gimmicks for encouragement but if it can really see that you are using the correct muscles that can be really awesome actually. Many people go to the gym and they don't realize if they are doing an exercise correctly.
PanicFreak
Member
How do you reasonably compare a video with an interactive program that changes with a precision body sensor?
sweet fancy Moses, what gym do you go to? My membership is only $20 per month.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
And this offers seemingly both so why did you stop and include only the price of one? You're also ignoring that Kinect offers you much more than a simple DVD can.
I'm not sure why people are going on about having 2 subs, we've known for a long time that things like netflix, which require a sub, are still behind the gold paywall. This isn't a surprise to anyone.
You just made the case for why XBL-Gold shouldn't be required for all those extra apps.
Jack Cayman
Banned
This stuff are ridiculous, subscription for everything, this situation with next gen systems be a multimedia centers that sucks money for every app they offering after you are a subscriber to the main services that is the console it self.
More worrying is that Sony is on that boat too.
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/09/25/s...laystation-content-to-other-devices/#comments
Sony sees the future of playstation as service. So micro transactions and apps and subscriptions for games. Is this a future that is already planned for the industry then sorry I will not participate. I like to buy and own the games that I play until the end of time.
At least Nintendo is still offering the standard console with the usual business model that we all know.
More worrying is that Sony is on that boat too.
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/09/25/s...laystation-content-to-other-devices/#comments
Sony sees the future of playstation as service. So micro transactions and apps and subscriptions for games. Is this a future that is already planned for the industry then sorry I will not participate. I like to buy and own the games that I play until the end of time.
At least Nintendo is still offering the standard console with the usual business model that we all know.
TrueGrime
Member
Really? I thought I made a case for: I don't have XBL to access the apps that are on it. The apps are just a perk.
Zoe
Member
Was hoping for something outside a controlled setting...
SymbiantXenos
Member
It does sound good for people that would use the service. Although I go for long walks for my fitness (between 7 and 10 miles on a weekend) so i wouldn't subscribe.
A perk of what? If literally no one else in the world is charging for that perk, what is it a perk of on XBL? If they're just perks, they should be even easier to move outside of the wall in the hopes of not losing more and more consumers to consoles that don't charge.
Interactive? You only get feedback from Kinect.
sixteen-bit
Member
MS will make a killing off this.