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Xbox Live Apps no longer behind paywall coming?
- Thread starter Miles X
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Yup.
Show me where I've argued with you on this. People have said removing the paywall devalues the service, rightly or wrongly. Either way, they need to ADD value to their paid service, like Sony does, with benefits and deals. Obviously this runs ALONGSIDE the paywall-free service, because it's an INCENTIVE. If you don't understand, ask me and I'll help. Don't be so rude.
Ninja Scooter
Member
At the rate they've been implementing community-driven changes, this response seems like petty noise.
Disagree!
Better games.
Blood Money > Absolution.
Undervalued Games in 'niche' genres.
Tropico 4. Viva Pinata.
I hate the GWG/PS+ list wars. It makes it too tempting to saturate the services with more AAA. Use this as an opportunity to push lesser known quality.
Actually I've seen people write that they have. But... Probably few people do (anyone who does research would realize it is cheaper to buy another box to watch Netflix than to continually pay for Gold). Which makes the policy extra stupid cause it really doesn't convince many to buy gold and only serves to piss people off (like me who refuses to even consider gold until that policy is gone. I don't even need Xbox to do any of that cause my PS does Netflix and hbo go but it is the principle of the matter to me).
Good news, if true.
I've wanted to let my sub' lapse a couple times during droughts.
I'll never understand why they locked everything behind Gold for so long. It gets horrible PR and unlocking them probably won't cost them many subs' anyway -- is there really a person out there paying $50/year solely for apps?
I've wanted to let my sub' lapse a couple times during droughts.
I'll never understand why they locked everything behind Gold for so long. It gets horrible PR and unlocking them probably won't cost them many subs' anyway -- is there really a person out there paying $50/year solely for apps?
It needs to happen. Xboxes (One/360) are the only media boxes that have these apps behind the paywall. It's 2014 and very outdated.
What they need to do is add more value to Gold via digital games. $60/year for online play and say, $10 off all digital games. That would be cool.
What they need to do is add more value to Gold via digital games. $60/year for online play and say, $10 off all digital games. That would be cool.
Handy Fake
Member
Sony Too?
Good thing multiplayer is free on PlayStation 4. Lead the way, SONY!
I would argue that it influences the decision at the very least.
BruiserBear
Banned
I could not agree more.
Um they included video way before the price increase. The price increase was just that, a price increase probably because their costs for shipping are going up. At the same time they also made it so that you have to spend 35 dollars if you are not a prime member to get free shipping.
Oh, trust me people do. It's messed up.
Yeah, sorry man, they hiked the price in the UK just a couple of weeks back in the exact way I mentioned. Assumed the same happened across the pond!
Dreamgazer
Member
Can you blame them?
Free PR without doing anything is the best PR.
"Blood Money? Isn't that $3 in the bargain bin?"
"Indies? I didn't buy my next-gen consoles for indies!"
Yeah I agree that very few do. Many get it for online play. On top of that, there's literally no reason why a person should spend $60 on XBL. There are always deals on it for $40 or less.
I don't think you still get it. What styl3s is saying, is that he shouldn't have to pay $60 a year just to access apps that are free everywhere else, especially when posters like him don't do online play/online gaming.
Garrett 2U
Member
I have a feeling this E3 is going to be huge for Xbox..
He shouldn't. I agree, dammit!
I'm saying that if Microsoft removes the paywall, which hopefully they will, they will need to offer additional incentives and benefits to justify the cost of Xbox Live Gold, just like Sony does, through discounts, offers, and deals, possibly like the ideas I mentioned.
Make sense? It's what I've been saying all along...
It has to be. It is vital for Xbox. The only problem is we all know Sony has a ton of games up their sleeves.
It's free for F2P games. In case anyone is wondering, this is why they put non-F2P multiplayer games behind PS+.
Remember that MS released pretty much no games between Q1-Q3 and PS+ subscriptions skyrocketed in Q4. If I didn't get get so much value from PS+ I would complain, but I got my 30 dollars worth on day 1 from my Vita.
Same here. Too little too late though. I'll never pay for Xbox Live again. Such a rip off.
Heh, I don't get this post. Snark for snark's sake. He's not asking for praise (he didn't make the thread) -- heck, his tweet even says to "pile on" the blames/hate; for all we know he could have talked about removing apps behind paywall at MS during the 360 gen.
I know what u mean bro, like every other company in the world is offerering free 2-day shipping but Amazon is holding it hostage behind a pay wall, bro let's fist pump! HUH!
Delusibeta
Banned
I'll be genuinely surprised if it does happen, I suspect he's just saying what you want to hear.
Im doing exactly what he suggests people do. Dont be so naive, heads of divisions dont tweet without knowing full well what they are doing. MS is doing exactly what Sony did in trying to be "for the gamers" except this move is something that should have been done long long ago. You dont get credit for that (and yes he tweeted that hoping for exactly that). Tweet about how people will get more than 2 games a month or more discounts on digital, and I'll praise that.
BRocknRolla
Member
You're right. They buy it because so much functionality is held hostage by the fee otherwise; not just Netflix.
Xbox Live Gold is a ripoff. It has been for a long time. Charging a fee isn't a totally unfair idea, but the current value proposition is moronic. There's a long way to go, but removing that paywall is a good start.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Miles Quaritch
Member
I think we're seeing them move apps outside of the paywall due to some appearing through ID@.
I think they already made their desperation push last E3 in announcing basically everything they had lined up game wise. The best I can see them doing this year is maybe one new game, some trailers for already announced games, hyping up policies changes that should have been there in the first place, and maybe a price drop. It would be good for them, but I can't see them pushing anything stronger than that.
dreamer3kx
Member
I hope so, I dont play mp and would like to use twitch and espn apps.
B1gg_Randall
Member
I never got my card.
Return of the Xbox Live Diamond card. Seriously the physical card itself was cool but I got ZERO discounts from it.
valkillmore
Member
As much as I'd love to say I'll jump back in, the Project Morpheus reveal sealed the deal for me. Will be the first console generation I don't get all three leading platforms. I've got a PS4 and a Wii U, and that's all I can handle with what little free time I have in my life at this point. I can see myself using Project Morpheus as my lead gaming platform for the foreseeable future upon it's release.
Would love to see Halo 5 gameplay though. Has the potential to be simply stunning. And I can't wait to see what changes come to Xbox now that Phil is in charge. I've always thought he was a great leader. Seems very intense and genuine.
Would love to see Halo 5 gameplay though. Has the potential to be simply stunning. And I can't wait to see what changes come to Xbox now that Phil is in charge. I've always thought he was a great leader. Seems very intense and genuine.
LXP, Rare, Twisted Pixel, Press Play, Lionhead, Lift London, Good Science and Next still have stuff to show, plus third/second party stuff (Ruffian, Playground, Harmonic, Undead Labs). Who knows what third party stuff they've bought/collaborated with. You'd be foolish to think they're only gonna come on stage with a couple new things to show.
E3 would be a good time to announce it...if it is going to happen
I'm confused. Why would removing the paywall increase the value of Live Gold?
Miles Quaritch
Member
iPlayer is already on the 360 and will apparently be coming to X1 during this month.