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Xbox Live Arcade (XBLA) News and Announcements Thread - 2012 Edition
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ms refunding 400 points? you joker you
Yeah, i was wondering why it was priced lower on PSN release yesterday. Guess it was not some error after all.
Sucks for those who already bought it.
to be fair, those 3 people wont even notice
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
They normally refund automatically for price errors.
The problem is determining whether 1200 was an error or if the game has just dropped in price.
randomlyrossy
Member
It was listed by Major Nelson as 800 points before release, so it is most likely a pricing error.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Fuck. Bought Quarrel but it turns out there is no local multi. Urgh.
Puddle seems like an iOS 99c game ported to XBLA.
Puddle seems like an iOS 99c game ported to XBLA.
How could it work if you played it locally on the same TV? You'd see each other's words.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Using our VMUs
Aren't we far enough into this generation to avoid "Pricing Errors" on new releases by now? I really hate to think of how much bad initial buzz a product gets over something like that, if it really was a flat-out error on Scarygirl's price.
The game apparently has 21 total stages (7 sets of 3 stages each), and gets harder as it goes on. I've played many other games that felt worse mechanically and thematically, that tried to pass themselves off for much higher prices, and now that it's 800, I'll easily consider it more in the future, after cutting through some backlog. Save for some weird grappling issues, I thought it felt fairly polished, and it's combat seemed much more involved (as a "Smash Bros. Light") than your generic Super Mario Brothers clone play that similiar games attempt.
I'll have to give Quarrel a spin later today, but, I wonder how much 400 pts will help it, given that it hasn't seemed to help Sonic CD that much, regardless of how high quality a product that was.
The game apparently has 21 total stages (7 sets of 3 stages each), and gets harder as it goes on. I've played many other games that felt worse mechanically and thematically, that tried to pass themselves off for much higher prices, and now that it's 800, I'll easily consider it more in the future, after cutting through some backlog. Save for some weird grappling issues, I thought it felt fairly polished, and it's combat seemed much more involved (as a "Smash Bros. Light") than your generic Super Mario Brothers clone play that similiar games attempt.
I'll have to give Quarrel a spin later today, but, I wonder how much 400 pts will help it, given that it hasn't seemed to help Sonic CD that much, regardless of how high quality a product that was.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Does Quarrel support the chatpad?
Ravensmash
Member
It really really does.
I took a plunge on it, and it is fairly enjoyable for what it is - but I think it is more suited to something like an iPad.
Visually it's really nice though, very relaxing game - just not sure if it's worth 800 points as of yet.
Not sure, as I don't have one. But I agree with Gaspode_T here; the game is very well produced, and seems like a great thing at 400 pts.
Reminds me of a solid quality version of many of XBLA's early offerings; simple games with unique hooks, that felt like they had no other competition for your gaming time, as they were just fun, easy to get into, and simply enjoyable.
Wasn't ploanning on using any points until seeing if something like Awesomenauts or Skulls of the Shogun makes a suprise appearance soon, but might just have to jump into Quarrel!
Speedymanic
Banned
So no-one knows what's happened to Capsized? 
So no-one knows what's happened to Capsized?
Nothing official since "Coming in December!"... but I guess the best place to ask would either be their Twitter, or on the Facebook Page.
Alientrap was the original developer of the upcoming Nexuiz, so maybe they needed to halt Cap in order to lend a hand to the upcoming House Party feature?
indigo-cyclops
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That was a great trailer, and from the looks of the screens...This may just be great.
Anyone else have any info on the game?
Joystiq gave a very positive-sounding review of Quarrel. Points out the depth of single player content much more than the trial. Need to convince a friend or 2 to get the game, lol.
PopfulMail
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Saw this post earlier and it immediately chased away any interest I had in the game. Got home from work.. played a round of the trial and bought it. 400 points seems like a great deal for this game. About to dive into some single player for a bit and give it a go. If anyone is looking for someone to play against at some point.. feel free to hit me up. GT: PopfulMail
Ravensmash
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Enjoying Puddle a bit more now that it's got a bit more challenging.
Great for a casual play, and definitely finding it quite addictive - nice variety in levels and very easy on the eye.
Still does feel a bit overpriced, but I'm having fun.
Great for a casual play, and definitely finding it quite addictive - nice variety in levels and very easy on the eye.
Still does feel a bit overpriced, but I'm having fun.
Family Fry
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It does support the chatpad.
Family Fry
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Official blurb was.
"In an apocalyptic world where existence is futile, a solitary man treks the American west coast. The year is 1986 and a mysterious disease has decimated mankind, transforming people into killer automatons. Survival is the measure of all in this original cinematic puzzle platformer. Deadlight is the frightening odyssey of an ordinary man fighting extinction like a flame in the desert. Hopeless and unable to escape the horrors of a dying world, Randall Wayne will reveal himself as a natural born survivor."
Out Summer 2012, don't think they have said much more. The company behind it did CG work for Avatar, so if anything should look the part.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
\o/
HadesGigas
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Just won a game of Quarrel with the word "CUNT". Good game.
Chiaroscuro
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This is the same old teaser showed in page 6.
Hispanicguy
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Didn't see anyone post this yet but Bastion with be 50% off (600) next week.
Dr Zhivago
Member
Me too, I was surprised it was accepted.
I like Quarrel, but the time limit is a bit irritating. Entering a word with the controller is much slower than on a touchscreen device.
backflip10019
Member
Awesome! Missed out on the holiday sale on this one and was hoping it'd be a little cheaper sometime soon! Can't wait to pick this up.
Here's hoping Deadlight will be the next XBLA game to hit Limbo/Trials/Castle Crashers level sales (million+), Alan Wake too...the downloadable games industry needs to prove those sort of numbers to prove that $15 games are still viable market to chase after.
Quarrel makes you feel stupid when you lose a 7 to 3 match-up! I couldn't find even a 3 letter word out of a bad luck set of letters.
Appreciate the Puddle impressions, it looks a lot like The Splatters from screens so I'm wondering how it controls, do you spin the screen and have the puddle avoid spikes/etc?
That and Scarygirl are both tempting...they look like the sort of games made for my tastes
Quarrel makes you feel stupid when you lose a 7 to 3 match-up! I couldn't find even a 3 letter word out of a bad luck set of letters.
Appreciate the Puddle impressions, it looks a lot like The Splatters from screens so I'm wondering how it controls, do you spin the screen and have the puddle avoid spikes/etc?
That and Scarygirl are both tempting...they look like the sort of games made for my tastes
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/pressreleases/82279/From_Dust_Highest_Grossing_Game_of_2011_as_Xbox_Live_ArcadeMarket_Sees_Growth_in_2011.php
Saw this and thought it was interesting. Think the only game that surprises me for being on the list is D&D Daggerdale.
Saw this and thought it was interesting. Think the only game that surprises me for being on the list is D&D Daggerdale.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Between Fade's estimations and Gamasutra's internal estimations (done by NeoGAF member RLan), I'd trust the latter more. Still, they both say just about the same thing as each other in this case, so that's cool.
U n i o n 0015
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randomlyrossy
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The thing that site is referring to is the HD collection. That being the one that is also coming out on disc, so no MGS1.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
I wouldn't expect that game to hit until July/August, for the Summer of Arcade promotion. (I assume you're talking about a release date : )
randomlyrossy
Member
At an educated guess I'd say it'll probably come out in March. Since the schedule is pretty much packed till then.
If I were to speculate, I wouldn't put it past Microsoft to hold it till the Summer of Arcade.
I'd say it's most definetly a SoA game.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
If anyone has a Collins English Scrabble dictionary, I can write an AI to play Quarrel perfectly.
Edit: Oh wait, I just did
Used my own dictionary so every so often there's a word mismatch, but consistently plays with >190 word IQ.
The algorithm is pretty easy. I took an English dictionary, isolated for words 2-8 letters in length, converted every word to its alphabetized scrambled self (IE the word aardvark becomes aaadkrrv). Then you give your input and max number of troops, and it takes all possible subsets of your letters based on your number of troops, and gives you the best scoring one. I'd need their exact English dictionary to get it perfect, but it's pretty damn good.
Edit: Oh wait, I just did
Used my own dictionary so every so often there's a word mismatch, but consistently plays with >190 word IQ.
The algorithm is pretty easy. I took an English dictionary, isolated for words 2-8 letters in length, converted every word to its alphabetized scrambled self (IE the word aardvark becomes aaadkrrv). Then you give your input and max number of troops, and it takes all possible subsets of your letters based on your number of troops, and gives you the best scoring one. I'd need their exact English dictionary to get it perfect, but it's pretty damn good.
If you can make a solver for Spelltower that uses OCR and finds words of all diff directions I will get you a very nice paying job here
There are some apps on iOS store for people who want to cheat at Words with Friends, one of them is called Tip of My Tongue...I've seen pretty casual users using them so maybe that's a good reason Quarrel has time limits for moves...
There are some apps on iOS store for people who want to cheat at Words with Friends, one of them is called Tip of My Tongue...I've seen pretty casual users using them so maybe that's a good reason Quarrel has time limits for moves...
bigtroyjon
Member
Why would you trust leader board charts over a research and consulting firm?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
The leader board charts are actual raw data which we can verify ourselves. The research and consulting firm (which initially had an unclear relationship with known doofuses ZG Chartz) provides their estimated data without making their data sources clear, allow us to verify them, or mention how many or which developers they collaborate with to get data.
I'm not saying FADE's data is garbage, but I also have no proof that it's materially better than the leaderboard figures, especially not on a per-game basis, and I certainly understand Rlan's better.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
If you can make a solver for Spelltower that uses OCR and finds words of all diff directions I will get you a very nice paying job here
well the tough thing about that strategy is that to get the image into a program that can OCR it you'd have to screenshot and then copy/upload, so it wouldn't be real-time. if airplay mirroring was unencrypted or there was a way to pull in raw per-pixel rgb it wouldn't be tough. i guess you could use a camera mount.
the input side of things would be difficult too unless spelltower supported some sort of plug-in peripheral for control or you used a robot with a capacitive stylus arm.
there was a guy who wrote an image processing based perfect XBLA Bejeweled 2 AI. can't find the url now, but it played so perfectly he could play forever. he spent something like $300+ on the equipment to send raw input commands, on a camera to film the screen etc. hahaha.
the actual process of picking the best word on the current screen isn't really difficult though.
Yeah, the word finding part is not really the hard part...I'm actually thinking that would be an awesome interview question for me to ask, but it would kind of be difficult to explain the Dungeon Raid/Spelltower diag concept to people that don't have a little touch device to play with.
I usually do best at Spelltower when I'm relaxed and can notice words that go in weird directions, Quarrel is different because of the time pressure. I need to study up on 2 letter and 3 letter words...
I usually do best at Spelltower when I'm relaxed and can notice words that go in weird directions, Quarrel is different because of the time pressure. I need to study up on 2 letter and 3 letter words...
ToyMachine228
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Rise of the Martian Bear coming to XBLA on February 1st. Likely 400 MSP.
http://www.xblafans.com/rise-of-the-martian-bear-deploying-on-xbla-february-1-37732.html
http://www.xblafans.com/rise-of-the-martian-bear-deploying-on-xbla-february-1-37732.html
charlequin
Banned
Because the research and consulting firm's methodology is either
- call people up and ask them for unverified results which they repeat uncritically,
- the leaderboard method (but done less carefully), or
- a combination of the two.
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