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Xbox One adds Xbox 360 backwards compatibility
- Thread starter Mugatu
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This is a horrible idea and you should feel bad for this. Those achievement challenges are almost as bad as anything Mattrick came up with from XB1's original vision.
I am glad that they are so easy to ignore. But they provide almost no value to the customer. Why would time-limited achievements (worth zero gamerscore) have any appeal to a normal customer? Their only goal is to encourage a) early adoption, and b) software retention.
I don't want to adopt a game early. I don't want to retain software. I want to buy the game at my own pace (on sale, a year from release if necessary), and I want to be able to get rid of the game as soon as I'm finished (instead of being encouraged to retain the software for 12+ months because of staggered challenge schedules).
I'm happy with gamerscore and normal achievements... I really dislike achievement challenges.
BluenoseGames
Member
Yeah hopefully they have an Xbox 360 Backwards Compatibility Store section on the Xbox One like 360 does for games with gold for Xbox One.
Too bad it would run at about 5fps on mine at 1080p.
You can redeem them on a PC/tablet by going to Xbox.com Only hitch though is you need to have a credit card stored. You can use a prepaid card though, as long as it has a small balance left on it. You can still use the cards balance, as long as it hasn't expired, you will be able to redeem the free games without updating your card info. (Since the gwg games are free it wont need to use any money on the card).
nrvalleytime
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And your point?
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Deleted member 47027
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We implemented these years ago (used to develop achievements for publishers) for that exact reason, we wanted people buying new on release. That was by far the most important thing to get people to do, and it was publishers' #1 priority and use of achievements. Things have evolved but the core is still the same - get people to get it day one and play the hell out of it, and that coordinates with marketing to get a heavier social media presence.
You know what - let me backpedal just a tiny bit. I remember getting Early Adopter achievement challenges for stuff like Titanfall and Tomb Raider Definitive earlier in the gen. I wasn't so miffed by those. I think that's fine. It's nice for someone to have that badge that states they are an "early adopter".
But I will never back down from saying I hate staggered challenge schedules that last 12+ months.
I should have mentioned that the challenges would be without a limit.
Edit: There won't be any early-adopters anymore with Xbox 360 games.
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Deleted member 47027
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I don't think there's much value to it either, not the ones past launch. I've never seen a worthwhile metric that says "people will actually keep playing this six months after launch for this" because the actual value tied to the achievement isn't really there.
What would be a smart move and would help would be some way of not just coming up with challenges, but a room or showcase of challenges met. So you at least get something.
StarBlazers1
Member
really? Played through the whole game on XB1(3rd run through, 2 times on the 360) and didn't notice any drops....weird
Thanks, Ill try removing and re downloading. It happens a fair bit.
shanafan
Member
Yeah same here, played super well for me.
Did the Big Surf Island DLC ever come to PC? I don't think it did.
If anything then timed achievements stopped me pursuing achievements entirely. At first it seemed like a great idea, and caused me to play some of the launch games for longer than I would have naturally, however the moment I missed a single challenge the game was basically a write-off in my mind. 0 gamerscore or not, they essentially made it impossible to fully achieve everything in a game without dedicating stupid amounts of time to it. Just getting the standard achievements no longer felt like 100%... so I stopped doing that too.
Also Crimson Dragon locking artwork and shit behind challenges like "beat this one boss 50 times this month" were horrific...
LithiumSpade
Member
Correct. There was some hacked-together mod of it that was very unfinished, but I think that's as far as it got.
Paradise being backwards compatible would be incredible news. One of my all time favourite games. I previously said that Rock Band DLC songs transferring to next gen might be the thing that forced me into an Xbox One purchase, but if this feature really kicks into high gear then that will probably be it.
(Still on last gen here, still loving it)
Nothing, just PC master race bullshit.
Go to your preview app and there will be a quest asking you to download games click on that and it should bring up a list of what you have.
CoolZombie360
Member
Thankyou so much I'll try that now!
brokenbeans
Banned
Of all the threads!
CoolZombie360
Member
The list just lets me snap the Kameo icon to my dashboard, not download it. Bravo Microsoft, guess you've taken my money for nothing :-(
Steverulez
Member
We need more games Microsoft! Moooaaaaarrrr games 
Some folk are so desperate to spread an agenda no-one gives a flying fuck about they just can't help themselves. Embarrassing
Some folk are so desperate to spread an agenda no-one gives a flying fuck about they just can't help themselves. Embarrassing
Seriously??. Wrong forum dude.
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Deleted member 47027
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I agree that it sucks. If I see one going with a game I'm already playing I keep it in mind, but achievements need the big reward tied to a timeframe - but still ALLOW people to finish it.
So I feel for instance the best way to do this would be "People who get the 'Beat X Game' achievement within a week of release get some sort of compensation or reward, but not have it affect the achievement at its core at all. So you still GET the same achievement, but it's tied to some other reward method that incentivizes getting it that week - but NOT an in-game reward. Something else, like you get to put a medal somewhere, or showcase it in some manner with the achievement system.
But hey I ain't about that life anymore. Developing achievements was very fucking fun, but I've moved on.
They seriously need to add Halo Reach to the games list. The only eligible games I own are defense grid and BattleBlock Theater which both run fine. I'd like to see how something like Halo Reach runs. I'd also buy a copy of RDR to see how that runs since I never got it last gen.
TangoAlphaLima
Member
Another thing to try is change your region on the Xbox.
Like if your in a PAL region switch to the US or something.
OttoSporteman
Member
One thing that amazes me: now that Xbox one has custom backgrounds capabilities, why haven't the publishers used this to offer such things? I know you can use achievement art but most of the 3rd party titles have generic stuff.
Also, Ubisoft offers wallpapers through Uplay rewards on Xbox One, but those are PC WALLPAPERS... WTF!
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Deleted member 47027
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Well, now you can make any screenshot your wallpaper, which sucks on the business end.
When I was developing this stuff it was 360/PS3 era, before knowledge of the achievement overhaul was done for the Bone. A lot of what MS has put into their core achievement functionality now wasn't a thing and there was value in it. But hey, everyone wins, it's just hard to make value out of nothing.
BabyFaceKillah
Member
Skate 3 please.
It's on sale for $5 and I would prefer to play it on my Xbox one
It's on sale for $5 and I would prefer to play it on my Xbox one
CoolZombie360
Member
If I do this can I change it straight back? I thought it was once every 3 months?
Eanan
Member
Stopr reminding me.
For whatever strange reason, ea have blocked this game in Ireland... And I'd really like to rebuy this game.
You can change the region on your xbox one as much as you want
The limitation you refer to is for the 360/microsoft account
CoolZombie360
Member
Cheers, will give it a go now, fingers crossed.
CoolZombie360
Member
Yep. This worked, just a heads up for anyone that is struggling with getting Kameo to install, changing region seems to do it
Bought Paradise because even if it doesn't come to XB1 I still have a 360, plus it was only $3.75.
I have also never played Skate and would totally vouch for that title to come over.
Anyone else think we could see EA being the biggest supporter of this (besides MS themselves)? Activision probably won't do a ton of their titles- GH can't be done, CoD would cannibalize future sales, Skylanders can't/wouldn't be done anyways.
I could see a couple Ubi titles migrating (PoP and maybe some old AC please), but nothing on the scale of what I think EA could offer.
I have also never played Skate and would totally vouch for that title to come over.
Anyone else think we could see EA being the biggest supporter of this (besides MS themselves)? Activision probably won't do a ton of their titles- GH can't be done, CoD would cannibalize future sales, Skylanders can't/wouldn't be done anyways.
I could see a couple Ubi titles migrating (PoP and maybe some old AC please), but nothing on the scale of what I think EA could offer.
Banjo-Kazooie
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Ubisoft already committed to Rainbow Six Vegas 1/2 so I see them being supporters. I'd personally love AC Rogue to be enabled so I can finally play through it...heard it was better than Unity.
Fleshfeast
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My number one BC request is the Dead Space series. One of my favorite series of all time. I'll never get over EA killing it off.
I think its a prime example of a franchise that could be re-booted a few years from now so never give up hope!
PIMPBYBLUD
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The Holy Trifecta
CalamityPixel
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S0cc3rpunk
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I heard you like Xbox
lmao, i can't breath lol
I heard you like Xbox
I want to Xbox on my Xbox while I Xbox.
As someone who went PS3/Wii last gen, I have very specific wishes when it comes to 360 BC. Burnout Revenge would be great since that was never released on PS3. Same thing with NFS: Most Wanted. The only HD versions of those are on Xbox. The Orange Box was not so good on PS3, so that's another one I'd like to get. Also, Tales of Vesperia.
SomeOneInaHat
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Streaming to a Windows 10 PC
serenewarfare
Banned
If EA puts up NCAA 14, I'll love them forever.