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[hydrophilic attack]

Fuck yes! I had been hoping for this. I owned neither a (3)DS or an iPhone so this is my chance to play 999

Glad I managed to avoid spoilers so far

 

[DNAbro]

They're adventure-style games and the order doesn't matter too much.

Hell no. Order is 1000% important.

 

[purseowner]

Pretty sure this remake and that fanfic over the summer are to fund the third game, right?

*applause*

 

[SaintBrody]

Hell no. Order is 1000% important.

Outside of a few characters the stories are pretty much independent.

 

[Hylian7]

Hardly edgy when the general consensus is that ZTD is pretty bad.

I don't think that's the consensus at all. I know a portion of people think that but mostly the game was well received.

Outside of a few characters the stories are pretty much independent.

Have you even played these games?

 

[Soulflarz]

The VLR fanfic was years ago though.
ZTD was the true sequel we deserved

Jaw since you didn't post it from an alt I can just use this as proof that my point is valid that ZTD is trash :V

 

[purseowner]

Outside of a few characters the stories are pretty much independent.

PLEASE DON'T LISTEN TO THIS PERSON.

Playing VLR before 999 will ruin both games for you. Please don't.

 

[Kalor]

I'll probably replay VLR on PS4 but I don't know about 999. Hopefully this remake fixes most of my problems with it (needing to replay puzzles, unclear on how to get the different endings).

 

[DNAbro]

Outside of a few characters the stories are pretty much independent.

again, hell no. Some of VLR's reveals have way more impact if you played 999. Same for ZTD and VLR.

 

[DrunkShogun]

I'm getting it but not sure if vita or ps4. Will probably go vita because ps4 is busy and haven't played on my vita for a while. Getting an entire franchise on one platform is always good news.

 

[SaintBrody]

PLEASE DON'T LISTEN TO THIS PERSON.

Playing VLR before 999 will ruin both games for you. Please don't.

999 is bad so it's not like you're ruining much by skipping it.

 

[BTA]

The VLR fanfic was years ago though.
ZTD was the true sequel we deserved

I'm happy you're enjoying this timeline a lot more than I am.

999's excellent and VLR's solid. Personally, VLR benefits from its more ridiculous sci-fi stuff being things that I specifically love, but also suffers from going out of its way to set up stuff that ZTD fails to deal with at all.

Some qualms about 999's DS-focused presentation aside, I'm happy there's going to be a good way to experience these games together.

 

[Eila]

Was expecting them separately so it's nice to have them in pack.

 

[Mass_Pincup]

Outside of a few characters the stories are pretty much independent.

Did we play the same game?

A LOT of plot points are dependant of the order of release. And I'm someone who started the franchise with VLR.

 

[Soulflarz]

I don't think that's the consensus at all. I know a portion of people think that but mostly the game was well received.

ZTD is in a really weird place where the average person likes it but the second you mention "what about ___ from VLR??" they legit have no idea what you're talking about because it's been so long since they last played it. It's really hard to defend it as a decent sequel if you even look at just one character being removed-- it invalidated so much of the second game by simply ignoring plot threads it said it'd address.

Like- you can't call something a decent sequel if game 2 ends John Smith's character arc with him preparing for game 3 as a huge plot point and John Smith never shows up because the writer forgot he existed. Changed their name to John Smith, but still.

Alternatively, ZTD was rewritten to avoid copying Ever 17 too much, which is dumb because he set up a character from Ever 17 to show up and then took it out after Uchikoshi directly confirmed that character from Ever 17 was indeed in the series.

 

[PurpleMoustache]

The VLR fanfic was years ago though.
ZTD was the true sequel we deserved

wait, what is this fanfic you speak of? Worth checking out?

 

[DNAbro]

ZTD is in a really weird place where the average person likes it but the second you mention "what about ___ from VLR??" they legit have no idea what you're talking about because it's been so long since they last played it. It's really hard to defend it as a decent sequel if you even look at just one character being removed-- it invalidated so much of the second game by simply ignoring plot threads it said it'd address.

ZTD's biggest problem is that some plot points are just plain stupid.

 

[kromeo]

Hopefully these are more what I was hoping Layton would be, where the puzzles are actually part of the story. Layton (I only played the first one) just felt like Brain training with a bit of light story on the side

 

[mStudios]

No 3ds? wow

 

[Newtype-001]

999

ON
MY
VITA

Listening to Morphgenetic sorrow
Junpei Puns
SCIENCE BOY!

;__;

999 is bad so it's not like you're ruining much by skipping it.

 

[myco666]

PLEASE DON'T LISTEN TO THIS PERSON.

Playing VLR before 999 will ruin both games for you. Please don't.

As a person who has played VLR before 999, no it won't ruin either of the games. However I still think that playing them through in release order is the best way to go.

 

[RampagingSoul]

I'll probably get this on Vita when it comes out. I'll have all the games on that one system, which is always good. Wish it could have been just 999 to reduce price, but I can deal. I'm stoked for the new additions to 999 with the flow chart addition and improved visuals and all that! 999 still holds a special place in my heart and I still view it as my personal favorite in the series, so the additions should be enough for me to get it and play it again.

 

[Andrefpvs]

They're adventure-style games and the order doesn't matter too much.

The fuck. This is terrible advice.

The order is 999 -> Virtue's Last Reward -> Zero Time Dilemma.

 

[purseowner]

Wish enhanced 999 was coming to 3DS - would be the definitive edition.

Still not sure how I feel about voice acting for it either.

 

[somotodsyo]

So, is this twist everyone is talking about worth playing the game on DS? Or should I just wait for the Vita version?

 

[kswiston]

I started 999 on DS years ago, but never progressed that far. I will probably buy the games on PC at some point and restart.

 

[SaintBrody]

Wish enhanced 999 was coming to 3DS - would be the definitive edition.

Still not sure how I feel about voice acting for it either.

If the VA in ZTD is any indication it'll probably be shit.

 

[YianGaruga]

No 3ds? wow

You can already play all games on the 3DS

 

[Lumpy Onion]

999 is bad so it's not like you're ruining much by skipping it.

I'm not gonna agree with 999 being bad, but I will agree with the sentiment of VLR being a great standalone story. Personally my enjoyment of that game's story didn't have much to do with callbacks and connections to 999. Zero Time on the otherhand doesn't work well as a standalone or a sequel.

 

[Soulflarz]

The fuck. This is terrible advice.

The order is 999 -> Virtue's Last Reward -> Cry

FTFY

So, is this twist everyone is talking about worth playing the game on DS? Or should I just wait for the Vita version?

Yes. Play on the DS.

 

[DNAbro]

So, is this twist everyone is talking about worth playing the game on DS? Or should I just wait for the Vita version?

It uses the DS very cleverly but the same idea can be done in other ways. DS version has ton of problems and is kind of annoying to get through.

 

[Funyarinpa]

Will it have the English voice-over on VLR in the EU, I wonder...

That said, I'm certainly importing this because HD 999+ Dual VA 999+ presumably Dual VA VLR is so cash. Having my two favorite games on one cart will be wonderful

 

[Gestault]

VLR is one of my favorite games, period. This is fantastic.

 

[Jawmuncher]

wait, what is this fanfic you speak of? Worth checking out?

Lol. Just fans fighting over ZTD and VLR.

I prefer ZTD and felt like VLR was just too much.
While a lot of other people liked VLR and felt that ZTD didn't do that game justice.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

Was ZTD really that bad? I mean, I found it boring enough that I couldn't finish it, but does it get that much worse?

 

[Fardeen]

hoping for a steam release too

 

[ULTROS!]

I hope I can just purchase 999 physically.

 

[BasilZero]

Well, it may also be that Aksys isn't handling the Steam release for ZTD. So I guess it'd all comes down to what Spike Chunsoft says.

Didnt they reveal that both games were coming though?

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/07/04/999-virtues-last-reward-coming-to-pc/


Edit: Never mind - source is assuming D:

 

[BassForever]

VLR is the weakest game in series but I still mostly enjoyed it, each game got progressively worst but they're all worth playing.

I do appreciate the biting sarcasm as ZTD not being included and this rerelease building towards a real 3rd game.

 

[dallow_bg]

So, is this twist everyone is talking about worth playing the game on DS? Or should I just wait for the Vita version?

I played the original on DS a ton, got all the endings, etc.
And I don't remember what was so special about the use of the dual screens. Neat I guess.

To me, it doesn't matter.

 

[SaintBrody]

Was ZTD really that bad? I mean, I found it boring enough that I couldn't finish it, but does it get that much worse?

It's awful, Uchikoshi got exposed a hack. Dropped plotpoints for no reason, shitty characterization, awful twists, etc.

 

[DNAbro]

Was ZTD really that bad? I mean, I found it boring enough that I couldn't finish it, but does it get that much worse?

Spoiler

Yes. The ending is the worst part.

 

[SMD]

I've never played these games. What order should they be played in? What type of game is this?

Visual novel puzzle games.

The only true order is as follows:

999 -> 999 -> 999 -> 999 -> 999 -> VLR -> ZTD

 

[Jarod McChicken]

Jesus, if 999 is getting a flowchart... daaaaaamn. That "flow" option could not be just to check the past dialogs ?

 

[Hikami]

Neat. It's a shame they didn't keep the same artist for ZTD.
(I don't dislike ZTD's art, just would've been nice to have it be consistent.)

 

[DNAbro]

Visual novel puzzle games.

The only true order is as follows:

999 -> 999 -> 999 -> 999 -> 999 -> VLR -> ZTD

This is pretty accurate considering you had to play through 999 5 times to actually see everything.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

It's awful, Uchikoshi got exposed a hack. Dropped plotpoints for no reason, shitty characterization, awful twists, etc.

You're the last person I'm going to take seriously when it comes to Zero Escape opinions.

 

[hayejin]

Will they ever offer pre order watch bonus after ZTD fiasco?

 

[somotodsyo]

It uses the DS very cleverly but the same idea can be done in other ways. DS version has ton of problems and is kind of annoying to get through.

I actually played a friend's copy for a while and got a few of the endings, but I stopped playing because of the repetitiveness. When I heard teases of a Vita remake I decided to wait for that, but I'm reconsidering now. If he hasn't played it and the game still has my save file I guess I'll continue the DS version.

 

[DriftingSpirit]

Lol, thanks for the help, y'all.