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Media Create Sales 3/3 - 3/9
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plagiarize
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i'm pretty sure God of War 3 will be a 2009 game at the earliest too, though i'd love to be wrong.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Gran Turismo was big on PS2, but not really bigger than Hot Shots Golf.Lightning said:
Once the budget rereleases of both are considered.Shiggy said:
Going by my latest data.Lightning said:
GT3: 1,437,581
I see no GT3 rereleases.
HSG4 + HSG4 (The Best) + HSG4 (The Best even cheaper): 1,525,348
The Famitsu data I've got is pretty skimpy.Ragyy said:
God of War: 6,861 first week, didn't chart again, doesn't seem to have made the 2005 Top 500.
God of War rerelease: 21,201 by the end of 2006 though it charted on no individual week
God of War II: 25,226 as of the second week; should improve a bit once we get the 2007 Top 500.
I think some consideration has to be made regarding the audience of these game series migrating to PS3. A game that sells mainly to a hardcore gaming audience is going to fair better than a game that relied on a casual audience when transitioning to the PS3. I think this is why Disgaea 3 and DMC4 faired a lot better than DW6/HSG5 with regards to drop-off in sales compared to their PS2 prequels.
In Disgaea's case, its audience is exactly the type of gamer that would run out to buy a $500 system with next to no games in its first 6 months on the shelf. DMC4 had some of those and a lot of marketing/hype. I think its evident that both the Dynasty Warrior and Hot Shots series have a lot of casual gaming fans as well as some hardcore fans. The problem for both of those series on the PS3 is that those casual fans don't have a PS3 yet and are perfectly content with their DS, PS2, and maybe their Wii.
This is why I have confidence that MGS4 will sell better than DW6/HSG5. While sales of previous MGS games were never as high as the sales of HSG or DW, I don't think it's the type of game that is primarly selling to a casual market. It won't reach MGS3 levels in japan, but its core fans and no doubt stellar advertising should see it to 500k.
On the otherhand, expect massive drop-offs on GT5. A game that DOES largely sell to a casual audience. GT4
rologue sold to roughly 75% of GT4s eventual audience. GT5P was pricier, so it may not have snagged as many Gran Turismo fans, but I can't see GT5 proper doing much better than twice GT5Ps LTD unless the PS3s installed userbase is much higher in Japan before it drops.
In Disgaea's case, its audience is exactly the type of gamer that would run out to buy a $500 system with next to no games in its first 6 months on the shelf. DMC4 had some of those and a lot of marketing/hype. I think its evident that both the Dynasty Warrior and Hot Shots series have a lot of casual gaming fans as well as some hardcore fans. The problem for both of those series on the PS3 is that those casual fans don't have a PS3 yet and are perfectly content with their DS, PS2, and maybe their Wii.
This is why I have confidence that MGS4 will sell better than DW6/HSG5. While sales of previous MGS games were never as high as the sales of HSG or DW, I don't think it's the type of game that is primarly selling to a casual market. It won't reach MGS3 levels in japan, but its core fans and no doubt stellar advertising should see it to 500k.
On the otherhand, expect massive drop-offs on GT5. A game that DOES largely sell to a casual audience. GT4
rologue sold to roughly 75% of GT4s eventual audience. GT5P was pricier, so it may not have snagged as many Gran Turismo fans, but I can't see GT5 proper doing much better than twice GT5Ps LTD unless the PS3s installed userbase is much higher in Japan before it drops.
vanguardian1
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kswiston said:
My only reply is in regards to Disgaea 3, in which a prior Media Create thread stated that they (Nippon Icchi) were disappointed in Disgaea 3's sales.
Edit : And didn't the PS3 cost 330/420 (USD value) over there when D3 launched?
Moor-Angol said:
I could've done it by 12 month periods since launch, but meh. Also, if you recall, it was responding to a post discussing >50K and >100K debut titles in the calendar year 2007, so it made sense to use the same cutoff points. Regardless, the general trend is clear. Both PS3 and Wii are looking a whole lot more like GCN (using the arbitrary criteria of games that debut > 100K) than the PS2. Not that anyone would be surprised at that and not that anyone should take that as the lone measuring stick for each system's software success.
JoshuaJSlone said:
2002 mid-year chart. LTD derived from EOY 2002 chart.
kswiston said:
Huh? You do realize that Disgaea 3, though starting off between 1 and 2, will end up the lowest selling of the three, right? I had a post on it in a previous week's thread.
What?! You don't read every post in these threads?!
Liabe Brave
Member
Isn't that what I said? PS2 had exactly the right circumstances to completely dominate from the very beginning, reaching a ~75% share in Japan and ~60% in the U.S. In Japan it had outsold the Gamecube lifetime before the 'cube even launched, and took only another 10 months to do the same in America. Wii will take at least 20 months to outpace PS3 lifetime in Japan, and at least 24 months in the U.S. It's the undisputed winner, but not as undisputed as the PS2.Jokeropia said:
Paracelsus
Member
Saitou said:
So it's official? Valkyrie Profile 3: Hrist on DS confirmed?
charlequin
Banned
donny2112 said:
How much are we looking at, though? This game is selling closer to previous franchise entries (proportionally) than most non-DMC4 games, yes?
Paracelsus said:
Well.
kswiston said:I think some consideration has to be made regarding the audience of these game series migrating to PS3. A game that sells mainly to a hardcore gaming audience is going to fair better than a game that relied on a casual audience when transitioning to the PS3. I think this is why Disgaea 3 and DMC4 faired a lot better than DW6/HSG5 with regards to drop-off in sales compared to their PS2 prequels.
In Disgaea's case, its audience is exactly the type of gamer that would run out to buy a $500 system with next to no games in its first 6 months on the shelf. DMC4 had some of those and a lot of marketing/hype. I think its evident that both the Dynasty Warrior and Hot Shots series have a lot of casual gaming fans as well as some hardcore fans. The problem for both of those series on the PS3 is that those casual fans don't have a PS3 yet and are perfectly content with their DS, PS2, and maybe their Wii.
This is why I have confidence that MGS4 will sell better than DW6/HSG5. While sales of previous MGS games were never as high as the sales of HSG or DW, I don't think it's the type of game that is primarly selling to a casual market. It won't reach MGS3 levels in japan, but its core fans and no doubt stellar advertising should see it to 500k.
On the otherhand, expect massive drop-offs on GT5. A game that DOES largely sell to a casual audience. GT4
Right, we cannot direct compare game by game without considering its fanbase/user demographic. Otherwise we won't be able to explain the reason why DMC4 still sale at the same level/better than DMC3 while HSG and DW sale has been declined this huge.
charlequin said:
He was grouping Disgaea 3 and DMC4 together. DMC4 is greater than DMC3, so I took it that he was saying that both of them had improved on their predecessors. It's definitely dropped less, proportionately, than the million-sellers on PS2 have, but that's also a lot easier with a lesser selling game to begin with.
Kurosaki Ichigo
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Ridge Racer 7 improved Ridge Racer 6 numbers...donny2112 said:
I know I know :/
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1214238_1124.html
Famitsu Top 10 is out.
Famitsu Mar 10-16
1. NDS Beautiful Letter Training DS
2. PS3 Yakuza 3
3. WII Super Smash Bros. Brawl
4. WII Wii Fit
5. PS2 Gundam Musou Special
6. PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator: Shin Yoshimune
7. NDS Hayate no Gotoku! Ojousama Produce Daisakusen Boku Iro ni Somare! Oyashiki-Hen/Gakkou-Hen
8. NDS Shugo Chara! 3-tsu no Tamagoto Koisuru Joker
9. WII Wii Sports
10. WII Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Edit:
Also, these may, may, may be the hardware numbers for this week from Famitsu.
DSL 47000
PSP 66000
Wii 51000
PS3 18000
PS2 9200
360 2500
Famitsu Top 10 is out.
Famitsu Mar 10-16
1. NDS Beautiful Letter Training DS
2. PS3 Yakuza 3
3. WII Super Smash Bros. Brawl
4. WII Wii Fit
5. PS2 Gundam Musou Special
6. PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator: Shin Yoshimune
7. NDS Hayate no Gotoku! Ojousama Produce Daisakusen Boku Iro ni Somare! Oyashiki-Hen/Gakkou-Hen
8. NDS Shugo Chara! 3-tsu no Tamagoto Koisuru Joker
9. WII Wii Sports
10. WII Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Edit:
Also, these may, may, may be the hardware numbers for this week from Famitsu.
DSL 47000
PSP 66000
Wii 51000
PS3 18000
PS2 9200
360 2500
Famitsu Mar 10-16
1. NDS Beautiful Letter Training DS 71000 / NEW
2. PS3 Yakuza 3 43000 / 220000
3. WII Super Smash Bros. Brawl 40000 / 1485000
4. WII Wii Fit 38000 / 1677000
5. PS2 Gundam Musou Special 29000 / 232000
6. PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator: Shin Yoshimune 23000 / NEW
7. NDS Hayate no Gotoku! Ojousama Produce Daisakusen Boku Iro ni Somare! Oyashiki-Hen/Gakkou-Hen 18000 / NEW
8. NDS Shugo Chara! 3-tsu no Tamagoto Koisuru Joker 17000 / NEW
9. WII Wii Sports 15000 / 2813000
10. WII Metroid Prime 3: Corruption 14000 / 48000
11. NDS Mario Kart DS 11000 / 2889000
12. PS2 12Riven: The Psi-Climinal of Integral 11000 / NEW
13. PSP Monster Hunter Portable 2 10000 / 1669000
14. WII Wii Play 10000 / 2240000
15. WII General Knowledge Training TV 9900 / 24000
16. NDS Harvest Moon: Shining Sun and Friends 9400 / 77000
17. NDS Doraemon: Nobita to Midori no Kyojinden DS 8900 / 23000
18. PSP Musou Orochi 8400 / 103000
19. NDS Mario Party DS 8200 / 1643000
20. NDS Soma Bringer 8200 / 79000
21. NDS Mario & Sonic: Olympics 8200 / ~264000
22. WII Winning Eleven Playmaker 2008 6600 / 72000
23. NDS Duel Love: Koisuru Otome wa Shouri no Megami 6500 / NEW
24. WII Family Ski 6400 / 91000
25. NDS Tokimeki Memorial Girl's Side 2nd Season 6100 / 67000
26. NDS Etrian Odyssey II 5900 / 124000
27. NDS New Super Mario Bros. 5900 / 5115000
28. PS2 Winning Post 7 Maximum 2008 5800 / NEW
30. NDS Animal Crossing: Wild World 5500 / 4316000
New releases outside Top 30
*. PS3 Winning Post 7 Maximum 2008 5400 / NEW
*. NDS Call of Duty 4 3600 / NEW
*. NDS Kantan! Tanoshii! Okashi Navi DS 2400 / NEW
*. NDS Contra 4 2300 / NEW
*. NDS Legend of Kage 2 2100 / NEW
*. WII Winning Post 7 Maximum 2008 1500 / NEW
*. PS3 Skate 1200 / NEW
*. 360 Skate 1100 / NEW
*. WII Baroque 660 / NEW
1. NDS Beautiful Letter Training DS 71000 / NEW
2. PS3 Yakuza 3 43000 / 220000
3. WII Super Smash Bros. Brawl 40000 / 1485000
4. WII Wii Fit 38000 / 1677000
5. PS2 Gundam Musou Special 29000 / 232000
6. PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator: Shin Yoshimune 23000 / NEW
7. NDS Hayate no Gotoku! Ojousama Produce Daisakusen Boku Iro ni Somare! Oyashiki-Hen/Gakkou-Hen 18000 / NEW
8. NDS Shugo Chara! 3-tsu no Tamagoto Koisuru Joker 17000 / NEW
9. WII Wii Sports 15000 / 2813000
10. WII Metroid Prime 3: Corruption 14000 / 48000
11. NDS Mario Kart DS 11000 / 2889000
12. PS2 12Riven: The Psi-Climinal of Integral 11000 / NEW
13. PSP Monster Hunter Portable 2 10000 / 1669000
14. WII Wii Play 10000 / 2240000
15. WII General Knowledge Training TV 9900 / 24000
16. NDS Harvest Moon: Shining Sun and Friends 9400 / 77000
17. NDS Doraemon: Nobita to Midori no Kyojinden DS 8900 / 23000
18. PSP Musou Orochi 8400 / 103000
19. NDS Mario Party DS 8200 / 1643000
20. NDS Soma Bringer 8200 / 79000
21. NDS Mario & Sonic: Olympics 8200 / ~264000
22. WII Winning Eleven Playmaker 2008 6600 / 72000
23. NDS Duel Love: Koisuru Otome wa Shouri no Megami 6500 / NEW
24. WII Family Ski 6400 / 91000
25. NDS Tokimeki Memorial Girl's Side 2nd Season 6100 / 67000
26. NDS Etrian Odyssey II 5900 / 124000
27. NDS New Super Mario Bros. 5900 / 5115000
28. PS2 Winning Post 7 Maximum 2008 5800 / NEW
30. NDS Animal Crossing: Wild World 5500 / 4316000
New releases outside Top 30
*. PS3 Winning Post 7 Maximum 2008 5400 / NEW
*. NDS Call of Duty 4 3600 / NEW
*. NDS Kantan! Tanoshii! Okashi Navi DS 2400 / NEW
*. NDS Contra 4 2300 / NEW
*. NDS Legend of Kage 2 2100 / NEW
*. WII Winning Post 7 Maximum 2008 1500 / NEW
*. PS3 Skate 1200 / NEW
*. 360 Skate 1100 / NEW
*. WII Baroque 660 / NEW
Laguna said:And donny there is a mistake in your list, look at the total numbers for Mario Party and "Mario and Sonic"
Nope. That's what was posted.
I have what's there from 1-30 translated, but I'll have to get to the games outside of the Top 30 later. Anyone else who feels like it *cough* Kurosaki Ichigo *cough* feel free to beat me to it.
Cosmonaut X
Member
cw_sasuke said:
Indeed. A great turnaround for the series, no doubt due in part to the larger Wii userbase, but welcome nonetheless. GKTV churns along but it looks like its going to be lucky to reach 100-150k. Good legs for both Family Ski and Winning Eleven, both of which seem certain to hit 100k in the next month or two.
Paracelsus
Member
I really hope this "half-bomb" of Yakuza 3 does not stop Sega from porting it in the States.
Seriously, I'd be highly pissed off.
Seriously, I'd be highly pissed off.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Gooooo RGGK
I knew Bimoji would be big, it's completely sold out in this town.
I knew Bimoji would be big, it's completely sold out in this town.
Moor-Angol
Banned
donny2112 said:
Contra 4 - 2.300
Legend of Kage 2 - 2.100
shame all over Japan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
These are Winning Post 7:
外.ウイポPS3　5400
外.ウイポWii　1500
And this is Skate:
外.スケートPS3　1200
外.スケート360　1100
This is Baroque:
外.バロックWii　660
In case anyone (like me) was wondering.
外.ウイポPS3　5400
外.ウイポWii　1500
And this is Skate:
外.スケートPS3　1200
外.スケート360　1100
This is Baroque:
外.バロックWii　660
In case anyone (like me) was wondering.
Phife Dawg
Member
外.スケートPS3　1200
外.スケート360　1100
Skate (sukeeto)
外.バロックWii　660
Baroque (barokku)
外.お菓子ナビ　2400
Sweets Navi (okashi nabi - my guess, something like cooking navi, only with sweet stuff-beats me tbh)
外.コントラ　2300
Contra (kontora)
外.影之伝説　2100
Legend of Kage (kage no densetsu)
For the other I have no idea.
ウイ could be "oui" (yes), dunno...
edit:
Damn, beaten. I should work on my japanese reading abilities.
double edit:
外.スケート360　1100
Skate (sukeeto)
外.バロックWii　660
Baroque (barokku)
外.お菓子ナビ　2400
Sweets Navi (okashi nabi - my guess, something like cooking navi, only with sweet stuff-beats me tbh)
外.コントラ　2300
Contra (kontora)
外.影之伝説　2100
Legend of Kage (kage no densetsu)
For the other I have no idea.
ウイ could be "oui" (yes), dunno...
edit:
Damn, beaten. I should work on my japanese reading abilities.
double edit:
Damn, "uipo" is Winning Post? I mean seeing it, it now makes sense but that one really got me thinking :lolKinan said:These are Winning Post 7:
外.ウイポPS3　5400
外.ウイポWii　1500
In case anyone (like me) was wondering.
thirdparties in Japan are finally catching up
WE playmaker with 70k is bad for considering the series prestige.. but yet it has totally proven itself as a steady seller ... Family Ski is similar...
I could see both games selling 100k
About MP3... maybe it will sell something like 100k ~ 150k.. that would be big for retro in Japan..
WE playmaker with 70k is bad for considering the series prestige.. but yet it has totally proven itself as a steady seller ... Family Ski is similar...
I could see both games selling 100k
About MP3... maybe it will sell something like 100k ~ 150k.. that would be big for retro in Japan..
donny2112 said:I have what's there from 1-30 translated, but I'll have to get to the games outside of the Top 30 later. Anyone else who feels like it *cough* Kurosaki Ichigo *cough* feel free to beat me to it.
You shouldn´t expect anything from Kurosaki Ichigo until Valkyrie Chronicles (it depends...), Tales of Rebirth, Star Ocean 2 or MGS4 for obvious reasons
Paracelsus
Member
jarrod said:
It'd become a full-bomb then. =/
Phife Dawg
Member
RGGK seems to behave like the typical PS3 game, which is not really good news. MP3 has a surprising strong second week - maybe it can beat MPH LTD after all. FamilySki almost at 100k is also quite a success.
Too bad about Kage and Contra bombing, but it was to be expected.
Too bad about Kage and Contra bombing, but it was to be expected.
Did you try that one out? Or did anyonw for that matter?Segata Sanshiro said:
so I used to frequent these threads constantly, then dropped off. I dropped back in for the heck of it and I see for weeks now the PSP is above the DS? Has the DS dropped it's reign? Does everyone in Japan have one? Shortages? Just curious what happened..
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
I didn't know blatantly retarded fanboys like you cared about other people.Laguna said:You shouldn´t expect anything from Kurosaki Ichigo until Valkyrie Chronicles (it depends...), Tales of Rebirth, Star Ocean 2 or MGS4 for obvious reasons
Oh wait, I do. Pissed at PSP sales once again, poor poor Laguna? :lol