goldenpp72
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TTP said:
Clearly yoga is only a standing exercise. Duh.
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IGN: Kinect only works/functions when you're standing up
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Clearly yoga is only a standing exercise. Duh.
OldJadedGamer
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B-Rad Lascelle said:
I know, even better when it gets bumped in a year so people can point and laugh.
HAL_Laboratory
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This is most likely the reason Nintendo originally passed on the Natal technology.
Alx
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TTP said:
Now that I think about it, there is also a video of Ricochet with a player kneeling to the ground, and he was correctly tracked.
I guess that the problem with sitting people is not their position per se, but the fact that they are surrounded by other objects. For a dancing / fitness game, you're the only object close to the camera, but if you're in your couch, the software has to distinguish you from the furniture.
womfalcs3
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IGN article:"The voice commands still work, but every game we've seen and even simple menu navigation have to be done with you out of your seat."
But all you need for that is a microphone. You don't need Kinect.
And it seems much faster to use the controller anyway. When I thought about menu navigation, I thought you could use the standard GUI and just wave through the options. Once you've reached the desired option, you could just move your hand as if you're pushing it (like a big button). I didn't think you had a separate interface specific to Kinect where you have to place and keep your hand on the desired option for a certain period of time. The controller is faster than that.
But all you need for that is a microphone. You don't need Kinect.
And it seems much faster to use the controller anyway. When I thought about menu navigation, I thought you could use the standard GUI and just wave through the options. Once you've reached the desired option, you could just move your hand as if you're pushing it (like a big button). I didn't think you had a separate interface specific to Kinect where you have to place and keep your hand on the desired option for a certain period of time. The controller is faster than that.
More bad news for Microsoft (if true).
There is a video showing that the 360 Slim scratches discs if tilted while playing. I don't know if this is true or not. It would be greatly appreciated if anyone can shed some light on it.
Hopefully it isn't the final model.
Video found here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qblBGTtMMhY
There is a video showing that the 360 Slim scratches discs if tilted while playing. I don't know if this is true or not. It would be greatly appreciated if anyone can shed some light on it.
Hopefully it isn't the final model.
Video found here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qblBGTtMMhY
kyo_daikun
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Bizzyb said:
Nah it just classifies them as a pair of legs.
Seriously tho it picks up children so I doubt height affects it.
echoshifting
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Guys, it doesn't matter if it works while people are kneeling or sitting sometimes in certain positions or chairs. If it doesn't work with every common method of lounging in one's living room the point is moot.
JacksUsername
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thefro said:
The other problem would be people sitting on the couch waiting for their turn to play. I know when playing the Wii with a group of friends, if a game demands you to be up and about there's a rotation of people on furniture. If you're playing a game and Kinectic is picking up the person sitting behind you moving their legs around or picking up a drink, it could really mess up the detection. (I'm assuming anyway)
flyinpiranha
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Seanspeed said:
IGN said it on a blog/write-up and since GAF follows IGN (when it says bad things about things they don't like) it makes it true.
Graphics Horse
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You know those guys who are too big to get through the door of their house? You know the ones...
PopcornMegaphone
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Flyguy said:
Yeah, that's me as well. At the very least I thought it could be a cool remote...
Now the lack of diversity in the game lineup we saw makes sense. You have to be on your fucking feet the whole time.
Littleberu
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HAL_Laboratory said:
MOST LIKELY yeah.
Not really.
PopcornMegaphone
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Vizion28 said:
That guy is fucking moron. You don't move the device while it's running.
flyinpiranha said:
Edge reported devs' concerns on this exact problem - parsing out the player from furniture - a couple of issues ago. It seems entirely believable when you take a moment to think about the challenges involved vs dealing with people standing 'free'.
Again though, said article said that MS was working to fix this.
Captain Pants
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TheOddOne said:
Kholdstare
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I can't imagine trying to have a serious race in Forza while standing holding a fake steering wheel.
Mama Robotnik
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Man said:
Not Barstool. Think Microsoft Kinect Supportive Seating Device. It'll be the Kinect equivalent to the Nintendo Wii Nunchuk.
flyinpiranha
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:lol Are you just fishing for shit? What console doesn't scratch disks if you decide to move the thing around while playing?Vizion28 said:
I mean seriously? Somebody put a youtube video up of that? :lol :lol :lol
Portugeezer
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That's what you have kids for.
"hey kids! Come here and move the menu for me"
"hey kids! Come here and move the menu for me"
I honestly expect to see games like first person shooters where you could sit down, play with a controller and maybe use Kinnect to interact with NPC squadmates and other innovative functions like the stuff shown in the Milo demo. However, the stuff shown at E3 was really a big let down for me other then the Star Wars demo.
Projectjustice
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Virtual Boy 2 coming right up!:lol
Lord Error
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I could swear I was reading a year ago that Ngai Croal was testing Burnout with Natal, saying that he was sitting, the game would 'read' his foot moving forward to accelerate and backwards to break, which he was was holding the air wheel with his hands. I know it was prototype hardware that was likely more complex/expensive than the one they use now, but I don't see why would things change like that.
LiquidMetal14
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lmfaoMan said:
"STAY ERECT, STAY KINECT", PUT THAT ON THE BOX :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
OMG :lol :lol :lol :lolMama Robotnik said:
PopcornMegaphone
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TheOddOne said:
If they fixed this today, we wouldn't see any games where you can sit for at least a year.
Kholdstare
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Vizion28 said:
This can already happen.
gofreak said:
I could see this being a problem. And if this 'rumor' is true, it's only one use-case for the device. The primary use case (flailing like a monkey) sounds pretty solid.
It's pretty hilarious reading all the "OMG MS is teh suck!" when none of you were going to buy it prior to this 'rumor' anyways.
LiquidMetal14 said:
:lol
Alx
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gofreak said:
That's why I'm always cautious with training-based methods... they do work, but using a bit of model-based reasoning always helps.
For example even if the user is in a position that you cannot recognize, you still have a face detector that should work, and once you have the face, you know that the body is not far. With the depth information, it shouldn't be too hard to find the most probable position of the different limbs.
Old motion-based methods can also be used to filter the 3D background, and remove all the furniture from your depth map.
TransTrender
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Based on what I've seen...
It only works standing up.
Nothing between you and the camera (like a coffee table).
Must be in a well lit room
The last two are speculation but we'll see how they pan out.
It only works standing up.
Nothing between you and the camera (like a coffee table).
Must be in a well lit room
The last two are speculation but we'll see how they pan out.
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