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Eurogamer: Star Wars Battlefront 2 has a loot crate problem.
- Thread starter Saty
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It took Nintendo like a decade to implement the pox of paid online on consoles (granted because their online sucked and no one would pay for that), hope they never get on the loot boxes bandwagon.
Fluffernutter Pancake
Member
Lootboxes emphasis in Battlefront: the sad result of Disney/EA's focus on Star Wars mobile gaming...........
Ristifer
Member
Nope, the industry has convinced people it's totally down to just these. It's astounding to see how many people parrot this argument. There's a ton of different ways publishers could monetize their products that aren't designed to be exploitative or fracture the community.
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Isn't a beta not supposed to be representative of the full experience by very definition. It's a beta.
Giraffe Keighley
Member
ITS LOOT BOX SZN
Daffy Duck
Member
They aint betas any more these days, they are glorified demos.
IMHO
If they dont want people judging their system do not release a beta with these elements in, CoD didnt and we all know that Game will launch with a loot system.
The industry tried to have it both ways. How many betas have come out with pre-alpha plastered all over them a month before the game launches with the final product damn near identical?
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Apparently in the final game you'll be able to put your credits towards boxes for specific classes.
Still a bad system, but not as bad as the beta.
I like this one. Post it in the OT for the old game.
Shouldn't that be alphas?
My understanding was that Beta's should be largely feature complete and largely indicative of what to expect and function primarily like a mass play test to identify remaining defects that more limited play testing may have missed.
Transistor
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Not buying it. Simple as that
facetheslayer92
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Wolfenstein 2 is free from this bullshit, thank fuck.
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Feature complete yeah but do you expect the loot system in the beta to reflect the main game? You expect challenges and all that sort of thing in a beta? Why?
That depends on what you want to believe. According to reviews Shadow of War doesn't have one and Assassin's Creed doesn't have one either. But if you dislike those publishers or those games you'll believe what you want.
Amibguous Cad
Member
After the Destiny 2 loot box controversy wound up being a tempest in a teapot, I've decided to wait until the game is released before passing judgement.
Saucycarpdog
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Battlefront 2 |OT| The First Order of Business
Generally yes, but more accelerated, again to facilitate play testing and balance analysis in mid to late game progression. If anything, I expect post beta play testing to be slower than what's present in a beta should it be intended to encompass testing the full scope of the game.
But if it's not a test but a teaser/demo, yes I expect it to still be feature complete including progression.
I like this one.
I have been a fan of Dice games for so long seeing them come up with such garbage is really disappointing.
They talked about this system months ago. Apparently I am the only one who paid attention. I was immediately worried about it turning P2W.
wild wild rice
Member
Im probably buying like 10 games on PS4, 3ds and Switch between Sept and the holiday and none of them are affected.
At the moment it only seems to affect these mainstream AAA games that are designed to be nothing more than addictive timesinks, which I dont play.
Dont get me wrong its an incredibly shitty practice. For now, Im safe. And I hope to see the worst of loot crate design go the way of paid map packs, etc
Green Yoshi
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Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Fuck, those are good
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
if a full priced game asks me to "learn" some progression or content unlock system which may involve paid loot boxen to some extent, I can't be fucked to learn it. Game is off the "shall I buy" list and publisher will be under suspicion for the foreseeable.
Forza, Evolve, this shit and others I won't even try to judge whether there is a good game somewhere underneath the "monetisation strategies", I'm just not interested. Fortunately there is still one big ass universe of excellent gaming available to me which more than fulfils my needs.
Forza, Evolve, this shit and others I won't even try to judge whether there is a good game somewhere underneath the "monetisation strategies", I'm just not interested. Fortunately there is still one big ass universe of excellent gaming available to me which more than fulfils my needs.
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I've never played a MP beta that was representative of the full game's progression. Last two before SWBF2 were Destiny 2 and For Honor. Both were wildly different from beta. But to each their own.
This gets my vote..
I know in D2 there were feedback changes but I'm not aware of anything wildly different. But I didn't play that beta so...
OldSkoolFool
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Star Wars Battlefront 2 [OT] May the stores be with you
Star Wars Battlefront 2 [OT] May the draws be with you
Star Wars Battlefront 2 [OT] May the draws be with you
SapientWolf
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My instinct is that EA will make the loot crate purchases really shitty so you'd have to pour hundreds of dollars into it to make a real impact. Gotta milk those whales dry.
It flew under the radar, but Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare had an almost identical system.
It flew under the radar, but Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare had an almost identical system.
katsubento
Member
I enjoyed the Starfighter Assult in the beta...too bad it can be ptw though. Won't get it at launch for sure.
I'm assuming it's more stupidity so I won't lol
lastplayed
Member
So it's another big game that's shouting "save time by throwing money at us".
Or, I could just not buy it and save myself a lot more time, and money!
Or, I could just not buy it and save myself a lot more time, and money!
Star Wars Battlefront 2 |OT| Call of Booty
And potential fun!
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Battlefront II |OT| These are not the Loot Crates youre looking for
lastplayed
Member
Ah but fun can be found in so many places that aren't full of bullshit.
SomedayTheFire
Member
They do it for most games in the free ten hour pre release. Battlefield, Mass Effect Andromeda, Fifa even.
My guess would be that this happened because of the class system. The player should be able to recognize whether they're fighting an assault class or a sniper so Dice gave them a unified look instead of letting the players go wild with customization.
Yeah, because droids don't all look the same.
Your reasoning doesn't make sense at all. In the previous game, you could only change the head and race for the most part, apart from a few 'skins' that were still easy to recognize faction wise.
I think the more likely answer is that visual customization will probably be 100% paid.