I would agree, unless you have friends to go online with. I had some friends take me online when I'd only taken down Great Jaggi and it really helped me better understand how to play.
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I would agree, unless you have friends to go online with. I had some friends take me online when I'd only taken down Great Jaggi and it really helped me better understand how to play.
Hero of Legend
Member
Bookmarked. Thanks.
Which table is best for S&S and dual swords? Blademaster ones I reckon?I'll just go ahead and post this as well, it's also from FamiliarStranger via GameFAQs:
more info via Familiar Stranger:
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From what I've gathered today in Japanese message boards, Tables 1 and 10 are considered top tier by most people, followed by 4 and 6. On the other hand Tables 2, 3, and 13 are considered bottom tier.
According to a wise man on Yahoo Answers (October 9th, 2012):
"Table 10 lets you create hands down the best equipment for Hammers and Dual Swords. You can also create great sets for other melee weapons other than Greatsword. Handicraft +5 FreeElement +7 is very powerful. If you're going to recreate your character, keep this one in mind.
The other god tier table, Table 1, is an all-purpose table slightly geared towards gunning, but really feels like a 'Jack of all trades, master of none" so it's not suited for people who want the best possible skill setup for a particular weapon. If you're going to be using many kinds of weapons though, you can make above average sets for any weapon type with this table so I recommend it.
[Best tables for each weapon]
Greatsword: T6 > T4
Lance: T4 >= T10 > T14
Gunlance: T10 >= T4
Dual Swords: T10
Hammer: T10
Switch Axe: T14 > T7 > T5
Gunner: T9 > T1 (T5 for Heavy Bowgun)
If you like Handicraft T6, and if you like evasion skills T7 is recommended.
Taken from games.yahoo.co.jp/qa/detail?qid=12953677...
Disclaimer: I take no responsibility for the validity of this person's claims, but I will say that it seems to be in line with most information I've come across on 2ch. For some reason it's been difficult trying to find new information on this, probably because it was discussed to death ages ago. This post from October was the newest thing I could find.
more info via Familiar Stranger:
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From what I've gathered today in Japanese message boards, Tables 1 and 10 are considered top tier by most people, followed by 4 and 6. On the other hand Tables 2, 3, and 13 are considered bottom tier.
According to a wise man on Yahoo Answers (October 9th, 2012):
"Table 10 lets you create hands down the best equipment for Hammers and Dual Swords. You can also create great sets for other melee weapons other than Greatsword. Handicraft +5 FreeElement +7 is very powerful. If you're going to recreate your character, keep this one in mind.
The other god tier table, Table 1, is an all-purpose table slightly geared towards gunning, but really feels like a 'Jack of all trades, master of none" so it's not suited for people who want the best possible skill setup for a particular weapon. If you're going to be using many kinds of weapons though, you can make above average sets for any weapon type with this table so I recommend it.
[Best tables for each weapon]
Greatsword: T6 > T4
Lance: T4 >= T10 > T14
Gunlance: T10 >= T4
Dual Swords: T10
Hammer: T10
Switch Axe: T14 > T7 > T5
Gunner: T9 > T1 (T5 for Heavy Bowgun)
If you like Handicraft T6, and if you like evasion skills T7 is recommended.
Taken from games.yahoo.co.jp/qa/detail?qid=12953677...
Disclaimer: I take no responsibility for the validity of this person's claims, but I will say that it seems to be in line with most information I've come across on 2ch. For some reason it's been difficult trying to find new information on this, probably because it was discussed to death ages ago. This post from October was the newest thing I could find.
Argh, all this stupid charm table stuff is aggravating. I can't decide which route I'm going to take. I know I'm going to spend a lot of my time in this game so I would dislike being stuck in a cursed table, but like Mupod says, I also know that maxing my character isn't going to make me a better hunter, I know it's about my own skills and all that jazz. Having one charm over another one isn't going to be the deciding factor on whether or not I kill a monster.
But then again, charm farming while choresome is kinda fun in it's own right too, and I'd hate to spend hours charm farming when there aren't really any great charms to farm for.
I wish I never heard of this charm crap.
But then again, charm farming while choresome is kinda fun in it's own right too, and I'd hate to spend hours charm farming when there aren't really any great charms to farm for.
I wish I never heard of this charm crap.
Hero of Legend
Member
What about Sword & Shield or is it usually paired with dual swords? I never use the shield in S&S, so dual swords sound perfect for me, I want quick slices so I can pick 'em apart bit by bit.
Is Dual Swords different much in feel from S&S?
Is Dual Swords different much in feel from S&S?
You definitely found the best table for LawyerGAF and DetectiveGAF.
but seriously, thanks!
a few pages back, wsippel posted a method for determining which table you received early on in your game. this way, you don't have to try and manipulate the "new game" but rather just make sure you didn't get a "cursed" table early on and be cool knowing you got one of the normal ones.
Bel_Air_Jeff
Banned
What do these charms do specifically?
UncleSporky
Member
I still don't really understand this.
You set the system clock to 00:13:00, meaning 13 minutes after midnight?
And you start the stopwatch as soon as you click ok?
Stopwatches start at 0, so we will be waiting 14 minutes and 44 seconds? Or do you mean we should actually create the character when the system time would reach 14:44, so the stopwatch should read 1:44?
Don't worry about that. Someone will eventually translate the Japanese guide for more quickly farming the charms you want. It apparently involves spreadsheets.
They add skill points directly or through slots that allow you to add gems. Each piece of armor also has skill points. Once you get enough points for a particular skill, that skill or effect is "activated." Some skills are better suited for hammers, bows, lances, etc... So customizing your choice of weapon, armor and charms can be fun and can affect your combat effectiveness. Customizing also incentivizes loot farming.
A +10 Critical Draw grants you the critical draw skill which guarantees a critical attack when unsheathing you weapon. Useful for Greatswords, but probably not as much for Sword and Shield, for example.
Bel_Air_Jeff
Banned
jeez.... I'm gonna roll with hammer, hunting horn, dual swords, and long swords most of the game. Should I worry about this whole charm thing?
I want a good table, I guess.
What table would you recommend?
I want a good table, I guess.
What table would you recommend?
Ya, that might be the route I take, I'm not a big fan of having to restart my character though. But in the long term, an hour out of the hundreds I'm going to put in the game isn't that big of a deal.
Charms give extra skill points or gem slots. You need a certain amount of skill points (10, 15, or 20) to activate the skill. If you have 9 skill points, that skill won't be active. 9 Is the same value as 1. Only when you hit 10 does the skill become active.
Skills mainly come from your armour pieces. Charms are there to supplement your armour. So lets say your armour gives you +7 points of one skill, so you still need 3 skill points to get it to 10 to activate that skill. You would then hope to find a charm that has at least 3 points in that skill. There's also Gems that you can craft that give skill points and you can do those specifically for what you need, while charms are usually higher in points but are 'random'.
UncleSporky
Member
Also, does the charm table timing really work the same way on Wii U and 3DS? Seems odd to me since they are probably quite different under the hood, but I suppose they could.
I really wouldn't be surprised if this time trick doesn't work the same in the US version, like everyone will do it and end up on table 17 or something.
Also remember that this could eff up your 3DS's data in terms of tracking steps and games you have played since Jan 2012.
I really wouldn't be surprised if this time trick doesn't work the same in the US version, like everyone will do it and end up on table 17 or something.
Also remember that this could eff up your 3DS's data in terms of tracking steps and games you have played since Jan 2012.
So is it a terrible idea to get the 3DS version of this with no online? I played the demo for a while and thought it was kinda fun, but I might as well pass it up if I'll be missing all the fun sticking only to single player. How does the game work, does it have a storyline, or is it just a string of "hunt missions"?
Also, technical question, I saw that you could select an item and it is shown on the bottom right corner of the upper screen.... how do I use it? I could only find out how to navigate through my inventory (or what I think was my inventory) through that UI bit, but I have no idea how to actually use it.
Also, technical question, I saw that you could select an item and it is shown on the bottom right corner of the upper screen.... how do I use it? I could only find out how to navigate through my inventory (or what I think was my inventory) through that UI bit, but I have no idea how to actually use it.
UncleSporky
Member
Press the why button!
Here is a link to the skills for Tri: http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/MH3:_Armor_Skill_List
And here's a link to the Armour in Tri and what skill points each piece gives: http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/MH3:_Armor_Skill_List
Ultimate is a little different but I'm having trouble finding a page like this for ultimate.
1. I put hundreds of hours into the PSP games without ever playing multiplayer. I still prefer solo hunting in some ways, multiplayer is a fun experience but a different one. There's a bit of a basic storyline supported by dialogue from NPCs in town but functionally it's just missions yes. And that's the way we likes it around these parts.
2. Y uses items and sheathes weapons, you cycle items with L + Y or A. I really recommend reading the digital manual.
They are similar in some ways. Both are fast and traditionally focused on elemental/status damage.
Not using the shield is the ideal way to use SnS - it's an 'oh shit' button since it's the weakest weapon in terms of blocking power. But it's very nice to have especially early on to avoid monster roars and such.
DS's moveset generally locks you into an attack for slightly longer and it doesn't have the awesome jumping slash. But its damage potential is higher and demonize is fun. Plus now it has that sidestep dodge when you fill up the weapon bar.
As I say with every weapon question just try both, you start with one of every weapon ingame and there's still the demo. No reason to commit to one before even using it.
http://www.mh3-ultimate.com/page/Armor+Skills
bigdaddygamebot
Member
This Charm Table nonsense is really turning out to be an irritation to me.
Tri on the Wii made a decent attempt at providing a single player campaign which was pretty nice and I finished the whole thing if only because I needed certain parts of the last elder monster (against Caedeus) which you could not get online, and because the farm and fishing boats were a good way to stock up on the necessary mushrooms, bugs and fish to create potions from.
Essentially the single player mode is a series of hunt, capture, and gather quests stringed together using a storyline. The village you start in is basically the hub from which you accept new challenges and then depart from, you then get dropped in one of the environments that these events take place in. Normally you get about 7 quests at a time to choose from and once you've cleared those you get access to higher level quests.
You can also choose to hunt 'free-style' on the deserted island area, you can gather materials, hunt monsters or do whatever you want without a timer bogging you down.
Perfect, thanks.
RobbieNick
Junior Member
Where's my OT already?! "Grumpy face"
UncleSporky
Member
You weren't standing in the right spot to fish, I think.
You can only fish in one specific spot - find the school of fish, coming from the starting area it'll be on the right side of the coast. Make sure you fish with the frog by pressing Y, it'll prompt you with 'A' but that won't use the frog.
Plessy will only go for the frog if he hasn't seen you yet, or if he's tired. He'll always try and eat the frog if he's tired/drooling.
ShadowgeistX
Member
Man, I think I'll probably create my character on the 3DS version to get the charm table, then transfer it onto my Wii U version...we CAN do this, right? And on day 1?
As far as I know, yes. But I'm actually kinda worried about changing my 3DS time ruining my stats, heh. I just hit 1 million steps!
Sammy Samusu
Member
Yes, you can.
I'm going with whatever table I get, what most of you don't realize is that the best charms don't drop often.
I remember looking for a clust charm on MH3 and never found it in 1500h of game.
denshuu
Member
I'm just ignoring it. You get all the skills you need from armor and decorations anyway.
Yeah I don't even wanna know what this table nonsense is
bigdaddygamebot
Member
Yeah...I'm just gonna unplug before it spoils the launch for me.
It can mess with that? :/
Does it mess with anything else?
EDIT2: Wait, did you have a 3DS already on that day and that is why you are worried?
EDIT: Also, Andrex, get that OT ready, stat!
Well, technically you don't really need to mess with the date/time. You could just get up to the fish monger, have the boats go on a trip to Moga Shore or something, and then determine which table you're in based on a computer analysis of the items retrieved.
If you don't like the results, just start over and marvel at how boring the beginning part of MH is as you create a new character and repeat the process (30-45 minutes by most estimates).
ShadowgeistX
Member
Honestly? I'm just going to do this charm table crap once, just to ensure that my one character gets a chance at a decent charm. If I'm going to play for hours and hours, I'd rather not be screwed out of the possibility. It's just a one-time deal anyways (for me) so it's all good.
UncleSporky
Member
You could test it. Play a game for 10 minutes, take 10 steps, record your data, set the date to the previous day, play for a few minutes again, switch back to the correct time. See if you've lost those steps.
Whilst I understand the frustration of veteran players on this stance, its this and the fucking hoops you have to jump through to press new game that's turning me off this.
Bah I'm too old for this level of commitment. Fuck it.
It's not that bad. In Tri I was new. I played 3-4 hours offline just enough to get Qurupeco armor and a nice hammer. I then played online with some people considerably stronger than I was and was HR 20 by the end of the week.
The hunts generally go much faster online. I took my full Lagicrus armor and Rathalos hammer and beat offline easily just to level up my farm.
Wired All Wrong
Member
Do like I'm going to do and just forget the charm table. It seems to be more for those who are crazy into getting the absolute best possible armor/skills or whatever. It's not like you're not going to be able to beat all the monsters because you got dealt a shitty table. From the sounds of it you'll be able to beat most monsters naked by the time you would be min/maxing your gear with the best charms.
As for Pineconn's comment, screw that. Go online whenever you feel comfortable with the controls. I guess the other thing I would do is get some materials together for potions and whatnot so you don't have to farm materials while questing with others.
As I keep saying, ignore the charm table talk. Do you honestly care about missing out on a 1/12,000 chance at getting something that would at best get you an extra +1 or +2 to a skill you don't really even need (and could probably get from armor anyways)? From the rest of your post this is not something you even should begin to give a shit about.
Yep your right mate. I think a noob Monster hunter clan is called for, experienced players can fuck off lol.
Jawmuncher
Member
You won't be able to from my understanding until April when it comes to pal and US since a patch will enable that.
Can't answer much about local play with a 3DS and WiiU though. My recollection was that you'd need up use a WiiU and a LAN adapter to play the 3DS game online. They haven't really explained how that works.
I second this motion.
Chuckpebble
Member
I know. I feel like |OT| hunter. Been searchin' high and low.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
This charm table info should be included:
http://forums.minegarde.com/topic/6766-athenas-charm-table-search-for-mh3gmh3u/
Just found out about being placed on a cursed charm table and it's all random!
http://forums.minegarde.com/topic/6766-athenas-charm-table-search-for-mh3gmh3u/
Just found out about being placed on a cursed charm table and it's all random!
ShellyDeKiller
Member
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I said it earlier in the thread, but the emphasis on Pineconn's post should be that it's just a tip. It's not a requirement. You can do whatever you want, plenty of people do go online right away and end up playing just fine. Plenty of people also end up being HR 100+ with no armor skills and still triple cart to simple monsters.