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Smash Bros Brawl Dojo Official Update Thread: Goodbye, Cherry-don
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BrendenLee
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I say WOW.
Giving everyone a meteor spike will completely change the way the game is played. Characters like Pichu and Mewtwo will be given new life (if they make the cut) because their recoveries are so good. Characters with predictable recoveries are going to suffer heavily, once they get off the edge it'll be a free-for-all to see who can get to him first.
I believe this move will work like Jigglypuff's rest. You'll need to have very precise timing in order to get this one off, close to inside the character's head.
I really hope Brawl doesn't become a game revolving around footstool jumping.
edit: Now that I think about it, footstool jumping M2 and Pichu don't become good.
Giving everyone a meteor spike will completely change the way the game is played. Characters like Pichu and Mewtwo will be given new life (if they make the cut) because their recoveries are so good. Characters with predictable recoveries are going to suffer heavily, once they get off the edge it'll be a free-for-all to see who can get to him first.
I believe this move will work like Jigglypuff's rest. You'll need to have very precise timing in order to get this one off, close to inside the character's head.
I really hope Brawl doesn't become a game revolving around footstool jumping.
edit: Now that I think about it, footstool jumping M2 and Pichu don't become good.
WastingPenguins
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Jiggy37 said:
Oh c'mon. C.Falcon's stomp isn't even that effective a meteor to begin with, but it's a great combo starter. I can't think of many meteor-smash-moves that aren't just as useful as regular attacks.
It seems risky, first since you get a decent jump you probably won't be able do it consecutively (as you'll wind up higher in the air) and second of you miss you'll double jump instead and be in a similar if not worse situation than your opponent who will probably made more forward progress toward the ledge and will thus have control by the time you recover. In fact, I think this will be useful only for stages with pits as regular meteors will be safer on the edge.
-WindYoshi-
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So yeah... i've predicted music track the last two nights and i've been wrong, well sorry if i'm wrong again, but I just need to hear something new so i'm going with a music update.
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I'm really interested as a Samus player if they change the weight or speed of falling in bomb form since that will heavily change Samus' game. From the videos the physics look exactly the same so I'm not really worried but I wouldn't mind if they change it I guess. That'll just mean new things to be found.
GaimeGuy, who you play as mainly? Very interested in playin you when this hits. Well.. if it's online.
GaimeGuy, who you play as mainly? Very interested in playin you when this hits. Well.. if it's online.
GaimeGuy said:One of the most satisfying ones, too
I remember getting meteor smashed by Mewtwo JUST at the right moment in Poke Floats. It was an opening that had just appeared and pretty narrow, but the timing was perfect. I hadn't played much Poke Floats (as a more casual player I never played it, started to more as I started to use tournament rules) so that spot was completely unexpected. Agh x_x
Talladega Knight
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Knuckle Joe?
CrushDance
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Where's my update!?
Edit: Nevermind, Good that that's not a character. Scared me for a moment.
Edit: Nevermind, Good that that's not a character. Scared me for a moment.
WastingPenguins
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ant1532 said:
Always check the other language sites if it's not showing up on the U.S. one. The updates seem to appear randomly sooner and later on the various sites.
Anyway... yeah. Knuckle Joe.
Bed time.
QuickKick89
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And once again, HAL bias is shown.
Seriously, guys, not everyone knows your characters. I mean, you're making META KNIGHT a focal point of the game for christsakes.
Seriously, guys, not everyone knows your characters. I mean, you're making META KNIGHT a focal point of the game for christsakes.
AceBandage
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QuickKick89 said:
Uh, HAL isn't making the game. It's a group formed solely for this game to work under Sakurai.
Knuckle Joe, awesome. One of the few Kirby characters who actually would have been worthwhile playable, too, since he had enough attacks for it. Even as an assist trophy he gets three of the main ones... Kind of surprising, but makes me really happy. And now I hope Bugsy is in too. I want to see that purple beetle hurling stuff around one way or another.
...At least, that was my reasoning at the time. But I'll admit it was a hasty judgment in more than one way. :\ We don't know these things yet:
1) The potential lag time of footstool jumps. If it's smaller than a normal meteor smash, or (as I was assuming) equal to it, then meteor smashes as attacks are one step closer to redundancy.
2) The damage dealt by footstool jumps. If it's something like a Luigi taunt where it does 1 damage, well, obviously meteors still retain all their value.
We'll see how it plays out.
One of the few Kirby characters who actually would have been worthwhile playable, too, since he had enough attacks for it. Even as an assist trophy he gets three of the main ones... Kind of surprising, but makes me really happy. And now I hope Bugsy is in too. I want to see that purple beetle hurling stuff around one way or another.I should have added a "to tournament-level players" in there, or something like that. >_> I was basically talking about meteor smashes and footstool jumping in the context of each being pulled off perfectly. (Which I didn't make clear.) You're right, though, that to most players, they'll be very different things.Branduil said:
That doesn't go against what I'm arguing, which is that meteor smashes lose some of their value to redundancy by serving the same purpose as the footstool jump. (To go with your example, if the footstool jump can also be a combo starter, what's the point of still having the stomp?)WastingPenguins said:
...At least, that was my reasoning at the time. But I'll admit it was a hasty judgment in more than one way. :\ We don't know these things yet:
1) The potential lag time of footstool jumps. If it's smaller than a normal meteor smash, or (as I was assuming) equal to it, then meteor smashes as attacks are one step closer to redundancy.
2) The damage dealt by footstool jumps. If it's something like a Luigi taunt where it does 1 damage, well, obviously meteors still retain all their value.
We'll see how it plays out.
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