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Smash Bros Brawl Dojo Official Update Thread: Goodbye, Cherry-don
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I know. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in their meetings, though.TreIII said:
"Hey guys, for today I thought we could have Kirby take Samus' helmet and Zero Suit Samus can be trying to look for it somehow."
"Oh, good one! I was only thinking of Charizard eating a Super Mushroom and Pikachu getting scared and backing down."
"Yeah, that sounds okay cool but not super cool. We'll use it if we're ever at a loss for other stuff to put up for some reason."
*worker runs in*
"Guys, news from Sakurai! We're gonna have to delay the game. D: This means another couple months of updates, too."
"You know, I think your Charizard picture just got approved."
Aras
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsiBDV9Xu9c&feature=related
I didn't know Samus can perform her FS in midair u_u
minute 1:53
I didn't know Samus can perform her FS in midair u_u
minute 1:53
KittenMaster
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That's her extending her gun arm out so she can shoot the huge beam.Aras said:
JohnTinker
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I actually had a friend who visited NOA back during the summer before the Cube was released, and got to play a beta version of Melee but was NDA'd not to say anything.Guled said:
However, he told me all of what he saw. Told me about Falco, Mewtwo, Gannondorf, Pichu, Young Link, an all black character based off of the Game & Watch games, and "two Japanese looking fighter guys from that Fire Emblem series". He told me all of this back during July, and the game didn't come out until November. Back over on the IGN boards back then they were taking bets on who would and would not be in the game. Guess who wound up winning that tournament
So there's probably folks out there who know precisely who is in, and who isn't. Its just that those who know aren't necessarily talking
Zerodoppler
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Guled said:
I think the final roster was revealed in a japanese magazine called corocoro, but you can also find all the characters on smashbros.com.
JohnTinker
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As someone who was in a position like that before, its quite true. This time around though, I don't have those same connections as I and my friend did beforeJiggy37 said:
Minsc
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sp0rsk said:
Hopefully this is still true on the morning of the 7th!
It'd be a big disappointment if the brawl update for the return from the break was the commercial, well mainly because we've already seen it now, and I'm hoping for something real nice, like a new character, or confirmation of the total number of playable + unlockable characters.
EDIT: I see now I was beaten, once again. Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!
Lucky you. I so do wish that these people would talk. Its killing me that we are so close to the release date and don't any clue about the final roster.JohnTinker said:I actually had a friend who visited NOA back during the summer before the Cube was released, and got to play a beta version of Melee but was NDA'd not to say anything.
However, he told me all of what he saw. Told me about Falco, Mewtwo, Gannondorf, Pichu, Young Link, an all black character based off of the Game & Watch games, and "two Japanese looking fighter guys from that Fire Emblem series". He told me all of this back during July, and the game didn't come out until November. Back over on the IGN boards back then they were taking bets on who would and would not be in the game. Guess who wound up winning that tournament
So there's probably folks out there who know precisely who is in, and who isn't. Its just that those who know aren't necessarily talking
Guled said:
I think it's good, though.
I mean, as much as the agony is killing me too, the fact that we're still basically in the dark only fuels my want for this game even more.
I hope this thread can be saved for the archives or something, because I think it will be nice, say, a year or two from now, that we'll be able to check back in and see just how wrong, right and/or how crazy we all were at one point...
AceBandage
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TreIII said:I think it's good, though.
I mean, as much as the agony is killing me too, the fact that we're still basically in the dark only fuels my want for this game even more.
I hope this thread can be saved for the archives or something, because I think it will be nice, say, a year or two from now, that we'll be able to check back in and see just how wrong, right and/or how crazy we all were at one point...
I'm reminded how crazy I am every day.
A Link to the Past
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The one thing I love about Brawl the most is that I will never, ever, ever run out of stuff to unlock.
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Like anyone would look through it all.TreIII said:I hope this thread can be saved for the archives or something, because I think it will be nice, say, a year or two from now, that we'll be able to check back in and see just how wrong, right and/or how crazy we all were at one point...
>_>
<_<
>_>
On a more serious note, does GAF have backups? Because if not I might just have to embark on something crazy like manually saving every page of the thread myself.
well eventually you will but it will likely be several years down the line.A Link to the Snitch said:
Then again Sakurai created a stage editor for this game. so really this game can go on for as long as nintendo supports the online feature. I think thats the most exciting part. custom stages.
A Link to the Past
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Innotech said:
No, I will never be done. Ever.
Yes thats true. I wouldn't be as excited if I knew everything. Also, has there ever been a bigger thread then this before.TreIII said:I think it's good, though.
I mean, as much as the agony is killing me too, the fact that we're still basically in the dark only fuels my want for this game even more.
I hope this thread can be saved for the archives or something, because I think it will be nice, say, a year or two from now, that we'll be able to check back in and see just how wrong, right and/or how crazy we all were at one point...
Jiggy37 said:
Also, I doubt that Sakurai's departure will be real. Artistic integrity and all that noble jazz is one thing, but money is still the thing that he'll be probably concerned with if he wants to stay in this industry.
Besides, I believe he's already signed up for the next Mario game's development, or at least I thought so...?
Iam Canadian
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TreIII said:
Sakurai's working on a Mario game?
I demand more information.
I don't know, I kind of agree with the general thread consensus (like 600 pages ago or something :lol) that after Brawl, Sakurai would probably be a highly-sought talent by anyone and compensated very well...TreIII said:
D-does this mean a chance to actually see a great 3D Mario?
I'm not joking.
But I won't say any more. No derail here.
Pureauthor
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You know what this game needs? A Wobuffet Assist Trophy. Basically if you have one he Shadow Tags you back into the match any time you're about to be knocked out.
This game will last me 0 seconds because I'm most likely not buying it.
This game will last me 0 seconds because I'm most likely not buying it.
There's already a Wobbuffet and it sucks.Pureauthor said:
But yeah, that mechanic would be pretty cool.Well, if you divide the amount of time you'll spend playing it against the amount of money you spent buying it, which is zero, then you get--
--well, whatever is supposed to be mathematically represented when you divide by zero. I need to get around to looking that up some day.
A Link to the Past
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I want Nintendo to buy Meteos and have Sakurai make Meteos 2 and Meteos Wii.
But of course, he's gotta make sure that he doesn't overdo it.
Really, we just need a WiiWare Meteos and a DS Meteos, both with online play, create-a-character, and as many unlockables as Melee.
But of course, he's gotta make sure that he doesn't overdo it.
Really, we just need a WiiWare Meteos and a DS Meteos, both with online play, create-a-character, and as many unlockables as Melee.
I don't know, I can't imagine Meteos working without the touch screen. Unless they slowed it down significantly, but half the fun is having things speed up so you can trigger those crazy sound effects three times a second until eventually you get owned.A Link to the Snitch said:
But yeah, a true second Meteos without that lame Disney branding would be wonderful.
Edit: I wonder if Sakurai saw fit to include any Meteos stuff in Brawl.
I want some crazy aliens to launch meteos under me.Pureauthor
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Jiggy37 said:
See? SSBB works wonders.
A Link to the Past
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Jiggy37 said:I don't know, I can't imagine Meteos working without the touch screen. Unless they slowed it down significantly, but half the fun is having things speed up so you can trigger those crazy sound effects three times a second until eventually you get owned.
But yeah, a true second Meteos without that lame Disney branding would be wonderful.
Edit: I wonder if Sakurai saw fit to include any Meteos stuff in Brawl.
Fuck that. Playable Geolyte.
Also, you know what'd rock? Meteos with Nintendo characters.
rollingstart
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is Smash going to do different friendcodes than the actual Wii console.
Iam Canadian said:
It's an (unconfirmed) rumor that I've heard at a number of places, including Smash Boards and some JP sites.
If it has any word of truth, it would just give more rise to the notion that Sakurai is probably going to be staying in the Nintendo camp longer than some people would have originally imagined.
Plus, it would be kind of funny if it went along with the idea of what Miyamoto was talking about in this interview (the same one where Sakurai confirmed that Hideo Kojima practically begged him to put Snake in the game, as well as Sakurai and Miyamoto's difference of opinion when it came to Smash's initial focus):
Given that SSE mode looks to be doing a lot of that already, I think that it would be a good basis for Sakurai to lend his touch to a Mario game, were that it were true.
And while I'm at it, here's the "Sakurai vs. Miyamoto" quote:
- http://www.n-sider.com/newsview.php?type=story&storyid=2131
Meteos from Zebes, SR-388, Tallon IV, and most importantly Popstar. :OA Link to the Snitch said:
That difference of opinion reminds me of a previous post I wanted to reply to yesterday, but never got around to...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9169486&postcount=49625
It's really an interesting thing to ponder, but I couldn't reply right away yesterday because I wasn't sure how I would have reacted. On the one hand, each of the games in the series has, at one point, been my favorite game ever, and I expect Brawl to follow in that tradition. I wouldn't want to lose that individual quality (even though the games do have an unfortunate tendency to decimate their predecessors into irrelevancy).TreIII said:
On the other, suppose that Smash Bros. had really been a story-oriented single-player experience from the beginning and still turned out to be a success. That could have meant more developers seeing money in making 2D games on home consoles over the past eight years, as opposed to right now where everybody's scared to make one because there's this perception that they won't sell (even though nobody's actually put out a major 2D game lately to prove or disprove this theory).
Eight years of potentially more 2D home console games versus three of my definite favorite overall games anywhere... Even after a day of thinking about it, I can't decide which route I would have preferred.
Maybe I'll figure it out after I see whether Jigglypuff was incorporated into Subspace Emissary or they just left her as a character outside adventure mode.
I'm sure she would have been in on the story if they had started that going in the N64 days, but by now I don't know if they trust that people would want her in there developing a personality. :lolAlright Firestorm, I see your Kirby and I raise you Electrode.
21 / 7 = 3
3 x 7 = 21
Those operations need to be reversible by the nature of multiplication and division. With zero, it doesn't work:
7 / 0 = ?
? x 0 = 7
It doesn't matter what ? is [assuming you're giving it an arbitrary value] because anything times zero is zero. You can't get back to 7, so the operation makes no sense. Hence, you cannot get an answer by dividing by zero. Answer =DNE undefined.
This all pertains to the Dojo because the 7th day in January is the day that the Dojo updates resume. Yeah, that's it...
Firestorm said:
You get nothing, because you can't divide by zero. Short proof:Jiggy37 said:
21 / 7 = 3
3 x 7 = 21
Those operations need to be reversible by the nature of multiplication and division. With zero, it doesn't work:
7 / 0 = ?
? x 0 = 7
It doesn't matter what ? is [assuming you're giving it an arbitrary value] because anything times zero is zero. You can't get back to 7, so the operation makes no sense. Hence, you cannot get an answer by dividing by zero. Answer =
This all pertains to the Dojo because the 7th day in January is the day that the Dojo updates resume. Yeah, that's it...
Jiggy37 said:
It's funny when you think of it in that light.
But even so...as much as I would have loved for "choice a" to be a possibility, I couldn't see it that way. Plenty of others have tried to suggest something similar (for instance, Guardian Heroes and other games of that ilk), and it didn't affect the industry in that light. I couldn't have imagined Nintendo's product doing anything similar.
What I COULD have seen, is that maybe Smash, if it evolved in Sakurai's way, would be that it could have been something that we might have been able to look forward to more often, because new characters would mean possibly new storyline arcs and the gameplay engine being tweaked more for each sequel.
In other words, I could easily see Smash possibly becoming more like a rudimentary Ninty franchise that got half-way regular updates every year or so, as opposed to the like "once every generation" deal we got now.
Would that have been necessarily better? I can't tell you. But it would have be interesting to see how such a "What If" could have played out...
The thing about the Electrode is that it's super awesome, but there's nothing really special about the way the screenshot was taken. >_> It's not like, say, this carefully-posed excellence:
But wait! Perhaps ? is an imaginary number. I mean, it works for people who want to come up with the square root of a negative number, after all.
(Alright, alright, no more derail from here on. >_>)
Edit:
I mean, I guess Nintendo could carry on the hypothetical single-player Smash adventures without him, since Kirby's still going, but just like Kirby, I think they'd kind of pale compared to the true Sakurai games. Nothing against Kirby and the Amazing Mirror or Kirby Squeak Squad, though--love them both, and if Nintendo was producing single-player Smash quality on those lines every year and a half or so I'd be one very, very happy person. It's just that they wouldn't be quite so unreachably classic without Sakurai...
Mind is blown.Meloche said:
But wait! Perhaps ? is an imaginary number. I mean, it works for people who want to come up with the square root of a negative number, after all.
(Alright, alright, no more derail from here on. >_>)
Edit:
Well, it would still have had the full Nintendo cast and the power of fanservice backing it, so I could see some more potential there to generate a load of sales. (As opposed to, say, Little Big Planet, which I think will be superb but ultimately not shake the industry in any particular way.) And when Nintendo does something new and bizarre and successful, it seems to me that at the very least, lame knockoffs start to show up, like all the Brain Age clones and the Petz line and such.TreIII said:
You've got a point there, and it would be awesome, but one thing: I don't think Sakurai would do it. I don't remember exactly where I read it (maybe one of the pre-Dojo Brawl blogs?), but there was an interview or something where he said that one of the things that frustrated him as a game developer was that people always expected sequels even though the developer might not want to produce another one.
I mean, I guess Nintendo could carry on the hypothetical single-player Smash adventures without him, since Kirby's still going, but just like Kirby, I think they'd kind of pale compared to the true Sakurai games. Nothing against Kirby and the Amazing Mirror or Kirby Squeak Squad, though--love them both, and if Nintendo was producing single-player Smash quality on those lines every year and a half or so I'd be one very, very happy person. It's just that they wouldn't be quite so unreachably classic without Sakurai...
RagnarokX said:Well they've definitely been a great source for photoshopping material. I'm gonna miss them
NO KIRBY, YOU'RE ONLY HURTING YOURSELF! =(
You know I'm still debating whether I'll even attempt a blackout. The Dojo's siren song of updates will be probably be too powerful to resist though...
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Yep, there are so many great photoshops in this thread!RagnarokX said:Well they've definitely been a great source for photoshopping material. I'm gonna miss them
:lol
As fantastic as Jigglypuff is, I still have to give credit where it's due.turk128 said:
Sidenote: It feels really bizarre that 700 pages ago it was only August 24th.
...wow.Jiggy37 said:As fantastic as Jigglypuff is, I still have to give credit where it's due.
Sidenote: It feels really bizarre that 700 pages ago it was only August 24th.
Somehow I missed that one :lol
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