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2011 Fall Anime Thread - Bad Shows & Self Hating Nerds
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firehawk12
Subete no aware
Especially when there's only one correct answer anyway.Dresden said:
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
duckroll said:
Call me back when PengDrum's BD/DVD sales are higher than the great Ro-Kyu-Bu's.
Pendrum sales are a pretty big disappointment. Using Nichijou to make it look better is so silly, you know better than that duckroll.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Sensei is not the correct answer!Dresden said:
A Black Falcon
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They'd have to take them off every time before they fly, it'd take too long! Need to be able to jump into the flying legs at a moment's notice!Dresden said:
Right!Reknoc said:
Well of course that's the reason, yes.mAcOdIn said:
As I've said before though, I definitely like how in the series they don't really care about it -- people have gotten used to it so for them it isn't weird. That's better, and more realistic, than if they were all embarrassed about it all the time or something.
On that note, I'd love to get explanations for why tails seem to so often just materialize through clothing, in shows with people with tails. Um, the clothing needs holes for things like tails and wings to go through, but often they don't bother with any kind of visible opening, they just ... go through anyway. It's stupid.
Fighter planes are better than battleships.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Trademark that sucker!EmmanuelMunoz said:
I know!A Black Falcon said:
It's the better way for the integrity of the work, lol, integrity of the work in regards to Strike Witches, lol, however it's also the creepier way for the audience because it attempts to legitimize underage girls running and flying around in their underwear.A Black Falcon said:
It's all fucking magic like magnets.A Black Falcon said:
Well sure but the witches aren't planes either. But the should at least have the option, I mean, their method of transportation is largely irrelevant it's the fact that they can lift heavier weaponry and enhance the weaponry with magic that makes them a threat to the Neuroi in the show, so why not give them some options? Why not have like a giant ship they could use one episode against a heavily armored yet slow enemy or a large ground based cannon they could all feed their energy into for massive damage? It was a stupid concept and the show was stupid but they could have varied the enemies and how they beat them a tad bit more, even Go Lion has more variation than Strike Witches and they only have separate lions or Go Lion.A Black Falcon said:
God, please tell me you had to ask or look this up.Kagami said:
How excited is Nozomi Entertainment about their upcoming release of the final third of Utena?
So excited that they're going to be streaming the first third on their Youtube channel, two episodes per week, up to the volume 3 release.
Subtitled (sorry cajunator) and US/Canada only, but still a cool gesture.
So excited that they're going to be streaming the first third on their Youtube channel, two episodes per week, up to the volume 3 release.
Subtitled (sorry cajunator) and US/Canada only, but still a cool gesture.
I am so there.Geneijin said:
Well I already have the first two sets so this doesn't help me but I guess it's great they caught up. I hate Youtube though, wish they'd put it up with Hulu like His/Hers or make a XBMC/Boxee/iOS/Android app.Articalys said:
Anyways, where the fuck is Nadiesco? Fuck Gasaraki, I wanna see Nadiesco, I've never seen that one!
Last Exile 2 episode 3
I thought it was interesting that Ades is only attacking the nations founded by the humans that returned to Earth on Exile. They aren't trying to take over the world, like most countries that start wars in anime. They're just trying to reclaim the land that was stolen by the returners. I wonder how they're going to explain Dio still being alive ~120 years after Exile's return.
Hana Yori Dango 20 - 25
Holy crap @ ep 24, a re-announcement of something that I the audience was already aware of a couple of episodes back warranted dramatic music plus shocked faces for a solid 1 minute. Been a while since I cried tears of laughter at something that wasn't intentionally funny.
Holy crap @ ep 24, a re-announcement of something that I the audience was already aware of a couple of episodes back warranted dramatic music plus shocked faces for a solid 1 minute. Been a while since I cried tears of laughter at something that wasn't intentionally funny.
Jex
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Paprika in a Theatre
I've seen this movie a few times before, and I've always considered it Satoshi Kon's weakest movie, but I thought that I still liked it quite a bit. However, during this screening I discovered that my opinion on the movie really has changed a lot. I guess this is the fault of seeing the movie in a theatre: something about being able to focus so intensely on the movie itself really magnifies the flaws.
The movie opens fairly well and things get off to a suitably energetic pace. There's a nice exploration of one persons dream, some exposition about the 'dream machine' itself and then we get a really creative and fun opening credits sequence. Everything seems to be going well. Alas, this cannot continue.
As soon as what I'm going to call the movies "A plot" gets going a number of problems start to crop up. For a start, all the 'character' seem to do is spout exposition either about the events of the plot, or the technology that's driving the events of the plot. This continues for pretty much the whole movie. Even major characters like Himoru,Tokita, the Chairman, Toratarō Shima and Osanai get pretty much zero character development, even though they're extremely important. You just can't have characters state "we're best friends" or "he has the mind of the child" because that's not actually character work or development, that's just more exposition. Chiba, the apparent protagonist, gets very little development, which makes certain events a the end hard to swallow and rather strange.
Why did this happen? Why are there so many characters that mean so little? I think the problem lies with the "A plot". Essentially I feel that the movie has two plots. The "A plot" is about the dreaming device which
and the "B plot" which revolves around a character I haven't mentioned yet, Detective Konakawa. This is the guy the movie actually opens with. His plot involves
The problem with these two plots is that they are very different, they're at completely different scales and they have no real reason to connect to each other.
"Plot A" feels extremely rushed, which a bunch of underdeveloped characters, especially the chairman who literally spends every single line of dialogue spouting philosophical babble of the highest order. More over,
It's really just an excuse for extremely bombastic and spectacular visuals...that come from nowhere and can't really be expanded or defended. They seem a bit pointless at times. For example, when Paprika
On the other hand, "Plot B" actually uses this particular plot device, the dream machine, to explore and develop one particular character so that we learn more about him, and investigate his problems. This actually works really well and the film could have all been about stuff like that.
Some of the visuals don't look great on the big screen, especially some of the CG. It looks surprisingly bad, considering that the majority of this film looks excellent with really detailed background art.
One final complaint I have is with the editing. For quite a large chunk of the movie we just seem to jump about scenes without anything really linking them, or in fact, without any breathing space or air. We're still doing something in one scene but now we've cut to the middle of another scene, without completely finishing the action in the previous one. Frankly it's quite disorientating. It would make more sense if
Instead it just seems like they've done a bad job linking the scenes.
Still, it was nice to see in a theatre with 100 other folks.
I've seen this movie a few times before, and I've always considered it Satoshi Kon's weakest movie, but I thought that I still liked it quite a bit. However, during this screening I discovered that my opinion on the movie really has changed a lot. I guess this is the fault of seeing the movie in a theatre: something about being able to focus so intensely on the movie itself really magnifies the flaws.
The movie opens fairly well and things get off to a suitably energetic pace. There's a nice exploration of one persons dream, some exposition about the 'dream machine' itself and then we get a really creative and fun opening credits sequence. Everything seems to be going well. Alas, this cannot continue.
As soon as what I'm going to call the movies "A plot" gets going a number of problems start to crop up. For a start, all the 'character' seem to do is spout exposition either about the events of the plot, or the technology that's driving the events of the plot. This continues for pretty much the whole movie. Even major characters like Himoru,Tokita, the Chairman, Toratarō Shima and Osanai get pretty much zero character development, even though they're extremely important. You just can't have characters state "we're best friends" or "he has the mind of the child" because that's not actually character work or development, that's just more exposition. Chiba, the apparent protagonist, gets very little development, which makes certain events a the end hard to swallow and rather strange.
Why did this happen? Why are there so many characters that mean so little? I think the problem lies with the "A plot". Essentially I feel that the movie has two plots. The "A plot" is about the dreaming device which
gets stolen and misused by various shadowy characters, which eventually ends up with reality and dreams merging
Chiba/Paprika diving into his dreams to help him resolve his personal issues.
"Plot A" feels extremely rushed, which a bunch of underdeveloped characters, especially the chairman who literally spends every single line of dialogue spouting philosophical babble of the highest order. More over,
the events of the plot are rather convoluted, and the resolution itself seems unexplained. How DID dreams and reality merge? Why? Why were certain people able to control the dream?Why was Paprika more powerful than the chairman? What are the implications of a technology that can literally rewrite technology which can also be controlled by one women? Why does no one seem to care about that at the end?
takes on the roll of various film characters in the detectives dream it actually makes sense, as the detective has a thing for movies. When she keeps doing outside his dream, it's just for fun I guess? But it doesn't seem as relevant.
On the other hand, "Plot B" actually uses this particular plot device, the dream machine, to explore and develop one particular character so that we learn more about him, and investigate his problems. This actually works really well and the film could have all been about stuff like that.
Some of the visuals don't look great on the big screen, especially some of the CG. It looks surprisingly bad, considering that the majority of this film looks excellent with really detailed background art.
One final complaint I have is with the editing. For quite a large chunk of the movie we just seem to jump about scenes without anything really linking them, or in fact, without any breathing space or air. We're still doing something in one scene but now we've cut to the middle of another scene, without completely finishing the action in the previous one. Frankly it's quite disorientating. It would make more sense if
they saved that for when we collapsed into the dream world so that the editing would mirror this confusion. Or if it was a lot more subtle, like in Perfect Blue
Still, it was nice to see in a theatre with 100 other folks.
Hajime no Ippo 7
I really hate it when writers
It was so predictable that they were going to pull something out of their ass like that too, ugh.
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These diets seem kind of unhealthy.
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I really hate it when writers
make characters magically learn new techniques in order to win a fight.
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These diets seem kind of unhealthy.
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hosannainexcelsis
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Chihayafuru 5
This show is easily the best executed show of the season. The characters and their relationships are well presented, and the emotional drama is very effective. I can't wait for next week,
This show is easily the best executed show of the season. The characters and their relationships are well presented, and the emotional drama is very effective. I can't wait for next week,
when the karuta club starts getting some members! The plot up to now has been tightly focused on the central trio, it'll be interesting to see it branch out a little.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Chihayafuru 2-5: Finally caught up. This is a great show, but I'm glad I took a break from it so I could get through the entire flashback and get to present in one go. Episode 5's conclusion in particular, while predictable, was very powerful to me. It's all in the execution. The music, the animation, everything was great this episode! ^_^
mAcOdIn said:
No, actually this is one factor which is completely off the table for the majority of anime. Anime in general airs late in the night, at like 1am to 3am in the morning, and the only ads of not for the show are by the sponsors of the show themselves. Which is to say, if you are watching Soul Eater on TV, the only ads you will see are likely ads for Square Enix and Aniplex products. This means the only people paying for advertising on that timeslot are the same people who are paying for the production of the show. That is another way of saying that the people paying to make the show are also basically paying to even get the show on air in the first place. They really need sales from home video, merchandising, and licensing to make any money at all.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Gintama 86
What is with the people in this show and their weird food fetishes?
The serious character arcs are coming more frequently now. I won't complain.
What is with the people in this show and their weird food fetishes?
The serious character arcs are coming more frequently now. I won't complain.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
No. 6 10-11: I don't know why I put off watching the end of this, but now that I have I still have no idea what the hell just happened. Not a very good conclusion in my opinion, it tried to have dramatic moments but just came off as "And that's it. The end." And I just wasn't feelin' it. :/
Hellsing321
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Chihayafuru 5
This is pretty excellent and definitely the best of the season. The emotional climax for this episode was pretty great all around. Now it looks like the real meat of the show will start.
This is pretty excellent and definitely the best of the season. The emotional climax for this episode was pretty great all around. Now it looks like the real meat of the show will start.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
ivedoneyourmom said:
Sometimes I watch without subs, sometimes if I watch much later I watch with. This time, I watched with. Truthfully the only reason I finished was because it was so short. :/ I just wish I understood what happened. Or perhaps I know what happened, and just wish there was something better for it. >>
Ironically the only character who does wear pants is based off pilot Adolf Galland, who apparently flew his plane while wearing his swimtrunks. So I guess we can't win either way.icarus-daedelus said:
firehawk12
Subete no aware
It's just good and executes everything well. If you're not watching Tamayura for whatever reason, then this is clearly the only other choice.Articalys said:
Oh, and for me anyway, it helps that this new episode was just amazingly well directed.
Well, there's also Kimi to Boku I suppose. It's a close runner up.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Tamayura 5:
This is so Aria that it hurts:
So gooooooood. Heck, I think I'm going to rewatch all of Aria when this show is done.
This is so Aria that it hurts:
So gooooooood. Heck, I think I'm going to rewatch all of Aria when this show is done.
Ichika no echiiiiii, etc.DY_nasty said:
I... I just don't know where else to go. This seems as good a place as any to express my frothing love for Rideback- I'm on episode 9 now. Just found it on Netflix.
EDIT: Also, where can I watch Gundam Unicorn? It looks like the best thing since 08th MS Team.
Did... did Keifer and Rin just do it? Or was he being inspirational?! Isn't.. isn't he like twice her age? I'M SO CONFUSED/TURNED ON.
EDIT: Also, where can I watch Gundam Unicorn? It looks like the best thing since 08th MS Team.
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