alexandros
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I still think it will happen, Namco has finally seen thd light. Sooner or later, it will happen.
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Tekken 7 coming to PS4 and Xbox One
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I still think it will happen, Namco has finally seen thd light. Sooner or later, it will happen.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
It's after Tekken 6 but they were showing what happened before 1 to set up a new piece of the Mishima drama. Mama Mishima.Does anyone know where in the timeline this is set?
The PGW trailer gave the impression of pre-tekken 1.
What with Heihachi chucking Kazuya off the cliff and awakening the devil gene.
However what confuses me is that they've shown Yoshimitsu's new look, and that looks nothing like T1 era.
Harada has said that the final version will have something around the mid 30's. Not every character has been announced yet. The Arcade version is still going to be updated constantly.
I'm saying that that sounds like a step above anything Tekken has done for story in the past, and Tekken 7 thus far hasn't screamed "a step above" in any way at all.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
It will definitely happen. But we don't need threads being polluted by that begging for the console announcements
This nonsense again
https://youtu.be/0R8QnV_8oNs?t=26
https://youtu.be/bJJZkp3_L-I?t=31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjVcNc9Q-xM&t=8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-pxb4HMjio&t=25s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxDjSxLwE8Q&t=7s
https://youtu.be/uWiSV7K-XwM?t=44
https://youtu.be/WoRA5Pz4ndA?t=16
I think you misunderstood what he meant.
Launchers and juggle combos have always been a part of Tekken.
But with wall splat, bound and floor breaks it makes it ridiculous.
You can get wall carried from the other side of the map and receive additional damage because of wall hits, and even extend combos.
Bound extends the juggling for no reason other than "longer and more spectacular combos", also allowing you to carry your opponent further.
Floor breaks are RNG in a competitive game, which result in extended combos.
T123-TTT-T5DR had the right amount of punish&combo capabilities imo.
No PC? That's strange, the arcade version is already running on Windows.
Oh well, I think I will get it in the PS4 then.
Oh well, I think I will get it in the PS4 then.
As you can see from Creaking's posts, the magnitude of damage off juggles in Tekken has always been relatively consistent if not more toned down compared to its inception. What Tekken 6 and TTT2 did was make the player work more for their damage off of a juggle rather than how easy it was in the previous games. It also applied more variables and choices the player could make to optimize their damage leading to less repetition and a funner combo system.
And floor break is not a RNG property. There are specific locations and and moves that can cause it, and is a very controlled variable.
And you are also looking at bounds and walls as only combo extender when in reality they played a huge role in so many other facets. The walls also act as a mechanism to prevent people from turtling forever like in TTT1. The bound mechanic also lead to a new frontier for characters who in the previous games never had opportunities to implement proper okizeme (like Hwoarang) to now do so becoming a heavy factor in balancing the game.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
I agree with this. I don't mind depth, but not when that depth is solely on combo memory mastery.
I've always said if they want to extend combo options, they better add more defensive options mid-combo. You should earn your combo extensions with more than just an ability to do so. Yes it's a fictional game, but how dumb is it that you remain lifeless while taking all these hits waiting for it to be over?
"Don't whiff" = Equally dumb counterpoint.
They want to make Tekken more flashy, unique, scrub friendly and have more depth for fighter veterans? They better add aerial defense during those combo extensions. I'd love seeing Tekken getting more flashy with aerial reversals and counterattacks that turn the combo around the other way. Imagine combo counters tallying both players' continuous hits providing points to both players for an amazing performance? I could go on with my ideas. But Tekken can only be juggle extensions only. Nothing more.
Well the damage is different in every game.
I have to disagree with "easy". Pulling off combos since bound is subjectively easier than without it.
You're seeing it from the guy performing the combo. Seeing it from the guy receiving the damage, bound/floor/wall hits made Tekken actually more boring.
Juggles are longer, there are more possibilities for 60%+ combos (with wall carries) and no way of escaping it when near a wall.
I believe this led to Tekken being "boring to watch", T7 wasn't even a Sunday game at Evo. People don't enjoy watching juggle combos and extensions.
Turtling in Tekken is really hard: many low-mid or low-high natural combos.
More overheads than your average fighter, more frame traps ..
Sure you can't backstep or korean backdash, but that won't keep your opponent away from you forever.
I was completely wrong about floor breaks, I had forgotten only bound moves cause the floor to break (among another type which I forgot, I think slam).
Execution wise, then yes, the statement is quite subjective because both games can have ridiculously hard combo's to optimize. What I mean by 'work" in this context is mental work. The execution aspect isn't the only thing to think about while doing a combo, you also have to think about which move to use in the current juggle you're engaged in. The introduction of bound gives the player the ability to utilize so many more commands in Tekken's movelist that were originally impossible to incorporate which can give you more to think about. Of coarse you can play doing the same simple B&B you find convenient over and over without ever optimizing, but the fact still remains the introduction of bound which opened up the juggle-compatible moveset allowed for a lot more creativity in doing the juggles.
Now this, is a subjective statement. As someone that understands how Tekken is played, Tekken Tag Tournament 2 is one of the most impressive competitive games to behold knowing what and how the players are utilizing the immense plethora of tools the game opened to them. But I aknnowledge that it's a subjective statement because this is what I enjoy spectating. IMO Tekken is now considered boring to watch because so many of the animations and art design have been recycled for so long and people are sick of them and want something now.
Sure it's hard... but it's by far the most powerful and effective way to play the game. Anyone that has mastered the movement of Tekken can easily neutralize the gameplan of someone that's only focused on forcing their mid/low mixups. And hence walls played a huge factor in curbing that.
Everyone knows that.
bigboss370
Member
Hope its as content and feature rich as Tekken Tag Tournament 2.
copelandmaster
Member
Stop having fun you guys. Tekken is over, you can all go home.
OT: Expected, but PC should be no brain-er at this point. Anyway, I got a chance to play it in Dallas this past summer, but I got my ass handed to me by what turned out to be the Hardcore DFW scene. Several of those guys were actually on website tourney promo stuff. I bet they were at EVO, like, just days later or something, they were so good.
Looking forward to not having to struggle with a stick this time.
Well you're saying it yourself, but that's exactly the problem if you want.
Longer juggles (with bound) with more wall carry options.
Of course watching Tekken, if you know what you're looking at, can be more entertaining and tense than SF/MVC.
My point was that the general public gets bored watching it because all they see is characters doing wonky "back and forths", get juggled to death and comboed off the ground trying to get up.
A wittle too much damage imo
I'm sure last hit is not guaranteed in that T7 gif.
Unreal Engine 4 + VR support. And the fact that its already running on Windows . I will be pretty amazed if it doesn't happen because it wouldn't make any sense at all that it wouldn't .
I love the combo system, it all about getting the floater (alot of them are unsafe or side stepable) and knowing the follow up. Its also about knowing your surroundings and the stage you are fighting on. Its a fighting game after all so i personally want to hit my opponent as many times in a row as possible. Anyway in 6 onwards one or two combos are unlikely to kill you plus rage can help to make a comeback
I find it very interesting how you place the blame for Tekken's boredom on back and forth juggles and then provide MarvelvsCapcom as your counter argument.... A game infamous for its one touch kill juggles.
Floor breaks are not RNG. Don't know where you got that from.
Woody Invincible
Banned
Can't we just get a remastered rebalanced T5DR?
I fucked up by not being serious about DR when the arcade scene meant something, instead focusing more on initial d like a fucktard.
I fucked up by not being serious about DR when the arcade scene meant something, instead focusing more on initial d like a fucktard.
I can get behind this.
Lol yeah, I can get guaranteed floor breaks with Kat in Tekken 7.
SlaughterX
Banned
What, I didn't know sf5 is gonna be cross platform. Wish they CE also on pc...
If they bring back tekken tunes my word!
Kresnik258
Member
This announcement made me nostalgic for my favourite era of Tekken (2-Tag), so I've been listening to the soundtracks all day.
Man, Tekken 3 had some belters. This has been my favourite so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpcdr4jQaLQ
Think it was just a PS1 era thing. So many great fighters with so many great soundtracks.
Stuff's still good today of course, but man.
Anyway, hyped for this!
Man, Tekken 3 had some belters. This has been my favourite so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpcdr4jQaLQ
Think it was just a PS1 era thing. So many great fighters with so many great soundtracks.
Stuff's still good today of course, but man.
Anyway, hyped for this!
Only argument he may have regarding that is the Tekken 6 cemetery stage where the door break pressure points were difficult to pinpoint early on in the game.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Sangetsu-II
Member
Because it says so......didn't no one pay attention to the trailer?
Holy shit, you're right but idk if it's just gonna be PS4 or PS4/PC, look what Media Molecule's Dreams Twitter posted to Shahid:
When did they announce Tekken first on PS4 Beta?
They also get exclusive content too. (Maybe PS Characters?)
DR already had good balance and was the balanced Tekken 5.
And we already have a remastered 1080p/60fps version on PSN.
Now what we need is Tag 2 Remastered 1080p on PS4/PC.
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I knew someone would bring that up.
And of course between all the Sunday games (SF, SmashBros, MK9/Injustice/X , etc ... ) you chose marvel.
MvC has 1 touch kills yes, but there are 3 different characters to go through.
As well as X-factor, TACS, happy birthdays.
There are no special corner hits happening, it's just a 2D game corner.
There are zoning characters, assists to help out, air-game, etc ...
it's a weird comparison you're making. It's not even a 1v1 character game.
It's ok if you lack agruments.
The "back and forth" was backdashing in and out to provoke whiffs/mindgames.
But you could say it's a back and forth juggle fest, yes.
There's a reason why Tekkens are played on a Saturday and people drop out of the game after a while (at least in the west, now of course someone's going to bring up JustFrameJames, Rip or whatever ).
tiggerkiddo
Member
Eh expected, I just hope it comes out in 2016. I liked TTT2 but man was that a tad too complicated for me...;_;
Those Tekken Tag vets made me look horrible as opposed to T6/DR, where I stood a slightly better chance.
Those Tekken Tag vets made me look horrible as opposed to T6/DR, where I stood a slightly better chance.
Umm.
The original trailer on the conference didn't have this screen... Must be a mistake from SCEE YouTube people or something.
Blame cameraman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iNvG4MFrOU&feature=youtu.be&t=51m40s
But seems like the "Play The Beta first on PS4" is for start of Battleborn trailer and not for the end of Tekken 7 trailer.
And Battleborn beta is actually first on PS4.
So Tekken 7 is only exclusive content.
The original trailer on the conference didn't have this screen... Must be a mistake from SCEE YouTube people or something.
Blame cameraman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iNvG4MFrOU&feature=youtu.be&t=51m40s
But seems like the "Play The Beta first on PS4" is for start of Battleborn trailer and not for the end of Tekken 7 trailer.
And Battleborn beta is actually first on PS4.
So Tekken 7 is only exclusive content.
SkylineRKR
Member
I think the issue with TTT2 was that it didn't have a story mode that could introduce new players to its immense mechanics. The training mode wasn't all that either, its never as good as VF. The game had a fuck ton of characters and even more combinations of them. It was overwhelming for most.
I think I prefer TTT1's smaller roster.
Castef
Banned
Mmmh... maybe the VR compatibility is this exclusive content?