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why so few graphically outstanding games on 360?
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These Chuck Norris joke answers are so dumb...
I think GI next cover story is Halo 4 (there has been talk on forums) and one of editors said next cover game looks so good his jaw is still on the floor.
I like the soft bloom, but nothing about the character model stands out as beyond anything else. You could tell me it was Halo 3 or Reach and I'd believe you if the suit wasn't wrong.
I feel it's worth noting that Crytek said they're unveiling a major AAA project in April that, judging by two EA job postings for video editors to assist with marketing a Crytek game on a 12 month contract, is almost assuredly Crysis 3.
Really? Ok...I would say lighting and post processing effects (god rays, dof) definitely stand out as well as shaders on armor which have very nice reflections too.
I don't think you will see anything in H4 which will outdo best looking exclusive games from Sony, but it could get on their level.
I would agree with him on the dashboard of vehicle. It sort of sticks out like a sore thumb amidst the rest of the awesomeness. It is still pre-alpha so who knows how things will look like. I still wish it'd be released for 720.
I agree with Nirolak. Lighting is the cornerstone for achieving photorealism. It can easily take precedence over every other thing for a viewer (unless the other factors are deficient to the point of utter distraction).
CadetMahoney
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The truth is exclusives are not as important as ppl make them out to be. Certainly not this late in the gen. Besides graphics count for shit really if the game ain't all that.
Oh yea you are right, but does GI usually show announced games? I would think Crytek would announce it, and than make full reveal on E3.
Halo has always had amazing lighting. Halo 3's dynamic range effects are still the best on PS360.
I'm certainly not saying Halo 4 won't rival anything on PS3, I imagine it will. But I don't see it from these images. Halo's ability to impress has always been in battle, with all that pretty gun fire etc.
Windom Earle
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Ok, so maybe we should stop including it into this thread. GIFs are nice and all, but let's wait. Reach looked ok, but far from outstanding. Especially with the sub hd resolution and framerate issues.
Beyond that, the fucking ghosting from the AA was disgusting. I'm sure they've canned that though.
They're willing to show games that have a minimal amount of shown content, which I think Halo 4 still falls under, so it is still possible.
Btw, do you have a link to the tweet? I'd like to make a thread, since Game Informer threads are always amusing.
Yea, they said 720p native and proper AA this time.
Whats so bad about posting gifs? Seems perfectly fine for any other game, I dunno why Halo 4 should be excluded.
Furthermore 343 is not Bungie.
Thank God, Crysis 2 did it as well, I can't believe anyone thinks it's a reasonable inclusion.
Windom Earle
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GIFs of an unreleased game without gameplay footage. Feel free to post, but they are useless for comparison sake.
And dat grass:
Why did he shave his leg in 2012?
This doesn't look good to you?
I don't know if this picture was pre rendered or not but this almost looks to good to be true...
They look good because of the perfect background blur. They don't seem intended to represent gameplay anyway...
They are in-game, confirmed. We got info that it is 720p and has proper AA, so I don't see the reason to exclude it.
Edit: see post underneath if you need any more reasons.
This doesn't look good to you?
I don't know if this picture was pre rendered or not but this almost looks to good to be true...
Everything in here is taken straight from engine. It is the in game camera detached, then straight recorded feed. the only artifice is the DOF, which is in-engine too. It just wouldn't be that exaggerated except for beauty shots.
thecouncil
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yeah,... yeah, i think it might actually be microsoft policy, believe it or not.
Yea, no prob. Here are the tweets.
Andrew Reiner
https://twitter.com/#!/Andrew_Reiner/status/181867834715021312
Andy McNamara
(next week cover reveal).
https://twitter.com/#!/GI_AndyMc/status/185782617004716033
Oh and Halo forum with some info pointing at next cover being H4.
http://halo.xbox.com/Forums/yaf_pos...rmer-next-month.aspx?find=lastpost#post742019
Windom Earle
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They are as "in game" as the Forza bullshots posted a few pages back.
OldJadedGamer
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But it's not Bungie. What is 343's track record?
They are important but only to nab people at the beginning of the gen. 6 1/2 years later they really aren't going to sway people either way. Folks will have their minds made up on new systems before they even walk in the store. The vast majority of game sales are third party games.
NullPointer
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It always is. The Halo 3 bullshots might have been the worst. And after the Halo 3 reveal I'd wait until we got some direct feed gameplay before handing out honors.
I have faith in 343, but still...
Yep. Theater-mode shots are there for photographers, not for those wondering what the game will play like on their TV.
Thank you very much.
Whoa! Great, thx. Hopefully we will see DOF in game because it really adds to the feel of cinematics.
Oh, and tell me this one is pre rendered (because I won't believe its real time even if you confirm it is
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Here.
IMO Forza 4 looks fantastic in motion, the moment you stop to look at it in every frame then ofcourse you're going to complain.
Combichristoffersen
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360 needs more graphics, preferrably angular ones
There is no post-processing in these gifs. They are video footage from the engine. It's possible to pull out individual frames as tiffs and string them together as a movie - that could add resolution and improve AA if it were done that way, but that is not happening in these gifs. They are direct video capture, from the engine, from a level of Campaign. With the in-game Chief model.
I am not making any subjective claims about the quality, just correcting a misinterpretation.
Windom Earle
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Reserving my judgement till I see gameplay. A nice model with some DOF in .gif form is just useless for this debate. Especially after the whole "we don't do bullshots" debacle. But that was Turn10 of course.
I just googled for more halo 4 stuff so let me know if these are fake or whatever.
Not seeing anything groundbreaking. Those gifs with the extreme blur would make a more apt comparison to GT5's photo travel mode or Uncharted photo mode -- utilizing effects/quality that aren't typically there in gameplay, though still real time and in engine.
Not seeing anything groundbreaking. Those gifs with the extreme blur would make a more apt comparison to GT5's photo travel mode or Uncharted photo mode -- utilizing effects/quality that aren't typically there in gameplay, though still real time and in engine.
Whoa! Great, thx. Hopefully we will see DOF in game because it really adds to the feel of cinematics.
Oh, and tell me this one is pre rendered (because I won't believe its real time even if you confirm it is
I am not sure what that frame is, but the only extant H4 prerendered chief is the one from the E3 video last year and the very high res version we will be using for future visual id. So it's safe to say its not pre rendered. LOD is likely ideal because of how close the camera is, but it' in-engine.
Uhh, what?
To be fair, those are pretty compressed vid caps. OWV could just post some proper screens.
Turn10 claimed they don't do bullshots.
Ohh, ok.
Windom Earle
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I just googled for more halo 4 stuff so let me know if these are fake or whatever.
Not seeing anything groundbreaking. Those gifs with the extreme blur would make a more apt comparison to GT5's photo travel mode -- utilizing effects/quality that aren't typically there in gameplay.
Yep, this is more what the game will look like in the end. If they can get to the outdoor graphics of Reach with decent AA and resolution, fans should be happy.
There are other stuff in GT5 photo mode to utilize quality of visuals beside dof. It has much better shaders and lighting, plus shadows are not last gen like in actual gameplay. What H4 gifs are showing is exactly how game looks like with DOF which I guess will be there in game too just not in your face while you are shooting.I just googled for more halo 4 stuff so let me know if these are fake or whatever.
Not seeing anything groundbreaking. Those gifs with the extreme blur would make a more apt comparison to GT5's photo travel mode -- utilizing effects/quality that aren't typically there in gameplay.
Comparing MP to SP is useless now isn't it? Isn't that really jumping the gun?
Windom Earle
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First post nails it.
Love the troll-bait thread, though. Has a nice 2008-2009 feel to it.
Personally, GTA IV is silk the most impressive game to me this gen. The most-alive digital sandbox I've been in.
Its in game, DOF is in engine.
Nobody was claiming it was. Something being "in-engine" doesn't disprove that it looks like a rock solid graphics showcase.
HocusPocus
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I am just fine with 360 graphics this generation. If they wanted to spend 30 million plus on 1st party titles then I'm sure they would have some standout graphics. They opted to get exclusives from 3rd parties and extras first. The rest of the money they used to fund their XBLA efforts, which have been fantastic this generation. All this along with not losing money this generation. Good turn around from last.
Haven't we already seen it happen in cinematic scenes?
Halo 3 I think it was. Edit: I'm pretty sure I'm mistaken now.
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