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The Offical "The Departed" Thread (Reviews/Anticipation/Reactions)!

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Solo

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"When I was your age, they would say you could become cops or criminals. What I'm saying is this: when you're facing a loaded gun, what's the difference?"

It's out in 6 days, and somebody had to do it! Scorsese's latest has rocketed from completely off my radar to my most anticipated film of the year in recent weeks, after the uniformly positive buzz and advance reviews started to leak. And yes, we're all aware this is a remake of Infernal Affairs, so there is no need to remind us again within this thread.

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The Departed (Scorsese, 2006)

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Release Date: October 6th, 2006

Synopsis: Two men from opposite sides of the law are undercover within the Boston State Police department and the Irish mafia, but violence and bloodshed boil when discoveries are made, and the moles are dispatched to find out their enemy's identities.

Cast:
Leonardo DiCaprio .... Billy Costigan
Matt Damon .... Colin Sullivan
Jack Nicholson .... Frank Costello
Mark Wahlberg .... Dignam
Martin Sheen .... Oliver Queenan
Vera Farmiga .... Madolyn
Alec Baldwin .... Ellerby

Crew:
Martin Scorsese .... Director
William Monahan .... Writer
Howard Shore .... Composer
Michael Ballhaus .... Cinematographer
Thelma Schoonmaker .... Editor

Trailer: http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/thedeparted/hd/

Reviews: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/departed/ (Tomatometer currently at 100%)

Cinema Blend -

"It's driven by great performances, which Marty gets from every member of his cast. DiCaprio is desperate and tortured as Costigan, and Damon shines as the stiff and sometimes pompous turncoat Colin. Nicholson does his usual, which means he steals every scene he's in. He's charming even when he's blowing a guy's brain out of his ear."

"Scorsese remains a master, and he's working his finest magic here. He refuses to fall into the usual pitfalls of the gangster drama, and continues to find completely new nuances in genres that others have already mined nearly to death. Cops versus killers has been done to the point of improbability, but in front of Marty's lens it's a brand new game."

Emanuel Levy -

"It’s a pleasure to report that "The Departed," the gritty crime-gangster drama, is Martin Scorsese’s best film since the 1990 “GoodFellas"."

"Duplicity and deceit are manifest in Scorsese’s film, but, thematically, borrowing from noir, “The Departed” is soaked with the logic of a well-constructed crime melodrama (in the positive sense of the term) and the fatalism of a tragedy, focusing on the postmodern issue of identity, namely, what constitutes identity(a fluid concept to begin with), and what happens when people depart from what they really should be doing, instead playing roles allotted to them by social agencies. In this film, Scorsese takes the crime-gangster genre and turns it into something different, more compelling and original. The uniquely American story involves the Irish underworld, the police force and the corruption, within and without that agency, which make the tale more relevant. The film's depiction of the characters and their attitudes toward the world, in both its public and personal domains, is uncompromising."

Rolling Stone -

"William Monahan's stinging script, a revelation after his murky meandering in last year's Kingdom of Heaven, transfers the plot of the terrific 2002 Hong Kong thriller Infernal Affairs to his native Boston so he can drill down to its depraved core. This is vital, visceral filmmaking."

"The violence? Most of it is saved for the film's final act, where it's enough to give you whiplash. Scorsese correctly refuses to go wussy on the corruption that extends from Costello's nest of vipers to the State House, whose gold dome Colin sees from the window of his chic apartment on Beacon Hill. Damon, building on his no-bull turns in Syriana and the two Bourne films, brings a coiled-spring intensity to Colin, whose double life is taking its toll (for one thing, he's often impotent). Scorsese allows telling glimpses of the child in these men. Colin dreads betrayal by Costello, the thug who filled his scrawny twelve-year-old arms with groceries and made him his slave. Billy uses drugs to numb his fear but can't find anything -- family, friend, lover, church, government -- to trust. DiCaprio does himself proud in a risky role that stabs at the heart as Billy's bravado loses the battle to his jangling nerves. Though DiCaprio and Damon share only one big scene, their climactic rooftop face-off reflects the film's bleak view of a world where nothing is held sacred."

Variety -

"Mixing it up with modern mobsters for the first time since "Casino" 11 years ago, Martin Scorsese cooks up a juicy and bloody steak of a movie in "The Departed." Different from the director's earlier crime dramas in its shared focus on cops rather than on just the goodfellas, this reworking of a popular Hong Kong picture pulses with energy, tangy dialogue and crackling performances from a fine cast, combining to give Warner Bros. a winning hand commercially in all markets."

"Operating a bit closer to terra firma, DiCaprio is outstanding as the audience's main point of emotional contact, a man gravely at risk every moment of his life (one minor issue is an uncertainty over how much time the main action encompasses). In his third collaboration with Scorsese, DiCaprio has rarely been this vital, energized or passionate. Damon delivers impressively as well. Thesp's receding boyish qualities merge well with the role, just as a hint of his Jason Bourne hardness adds the necessary ruthless edge to the repellently interesting character. Supporting cast is sparkling down the line, led by Wahlberg, who steals every base on the field and takes them home."

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That just about wraps things up. Day one!
 

Solo

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Indeed. It's hard to believe it's been 11(!) years since he last did a film in the crime genre.
 

jett

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If they want me to get excited on this movie the studio better release a trailer that doesn't make the movie seem like a total piece of shit.

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Infernal Affairs ftw.
 

Solo

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Basing the final product on a trailer FTW.
At least read a review or two from people that have seen the final product before writing it off. Remember your beloved Batman Begins? Yeah, it had some of the worst teasers and trailers ever.
 

Solo

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Were they? I must have missed the memo. Consider this the unofficial, unsanctioned thread then if you must.
 

Solo

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I think I must be the only one who loved the trailer :lol Aside from Van Morrison's butchering of Pink Floyd, I loved everything else. Gotta love a trailer that features "Gimme Shelter".
 

bud

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Solo said:
I think I must be the only one who loved the trailer :lol Aside from Van Morrison's butchering of Pink Floyd, I loved everything else. Gotta love a trailer that features "Gimme Shelter".

Jack Nicholson's character came off as a funny character to me while he said that his role in this movie would be the embodiment of evil. The whole trailer gave me an action/comedy movie vibe.

But I believe.
 

Solo

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All will be revealed in 6 days! In Scorsese I trust (since Mann needs to redeem himself a bit with his next film, he goes on the sidelines :lol )
 

Cosmic Bus

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Despite strong pre-release reviews, I'm still exceptionally wary of this. The preview looked terrible, everyone's accents (or lack of one) seem quite distracting, I don't consider myself a fan of anyone in the cast save for Alec Baldwin, and I'm just generally disappointed in Scorsese for pulling remake duty on this.
 

Solo

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Although it sounds like a load of BS to me, but if you believe Scorsese and Monahan (writer), neither have seen IA, just read the screenplay. As I say, that sounds like a bit of a stretch to me, especially seeing as certain shots look directly lifted from IA, and little things like Leo's character's look and clothing almost mirror Leung's exactly.
 

Solo

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Well, what do you expect? Its not out yet. Soon there will be a ton of reviews, and yes, obviously that score will drop. I can only post what is there!
 

Timbuktu

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From the trailer it looked like a scene by scene remake, but with a running time of 149 mins (vs Infernal Affairs' 97 min) and from the reviews, I guess they've added a lot to make this different.
 

Solo

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Timbuktu said:
From the trailer it looked like a scene by scene remake, but with a running time of 149 mins (vs Infernal Affairs' 97 min) and from the reviews, I guess they've added a lot to make this different.

Indeed. So is that a final running length? Also, most of the reviews give a ton of credit to Monahan's script. Apparently the two "guaranteed" Oscar nods will be Marty (surely to not win, again, lol) and Monahan for writing.
 

Timbuktu

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I loved the director's cut version of Kingdom of Heaven, which Monahan wrote, although it was more for Ridley Scott's direction rather than the screenplay. Maybe Monahan tend to write rather heavy script and I was worried about the change of pace. I loved how lean Infernal Affairs was and it didn't leave much room for changes.

So I'm glad that they did their own thing and according to Emanuel Levy, made it 'uniquely American'. A lot of the positives in the reviews though, do derive from the HK original and it pisses me off a little bit if Scorsese and Monahan takes credit for the ideas. I'm also unsure about the aesthetics of The Departed, being so used to the wardrobe and subdued pallette in Infernal Affairs.

Still, of all the remake of Asian films recently and those lined up for the next few years, this probably has the best chance of being taken seriously.
 

woodchuck

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in a chat with Bill Simmons (espn writer), someone posted this

Jake (LA): You don't need to post this, I just thought you should know - I saw The Departed at the trade screening yesterday in Sherman Oaks. It's UNreal. I thought the trailer made Jack Nicholson out to have a big role when he MIGHT have a small role (hate when that happens) but he is the film's central figure and he absolutely NAILS it. Dicaprio is amazing. The shots of Boston are great and everyone really brings their A game. Even the accents are ALMOST believeable. All in all, it was the fastest 2.5 hours I've ever spent in a movie theatre. Didn't check my phone/watch once, and that's saying something these days...

i'm actually glad jack has a more prominent role, and that this is not a straight remake
 

Prospero

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I'll probably seek out Infernal Affairs before seeing this, since Scorsese's remake of Cape Fear is a better movie if you've seen the original and you know how he changed some things up.

I'm told by someone who's seen Infernal Affairs that The Departed's trailer (which I haven't seen) gives way too much away, so I'm attempting a media blackout of sorts until I can manage to see IA, at least.
 

Solo

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Prospero said:
I'm told by someone who's seen Infernal Affairs that The Departed's trailer (which I haven't seen) gives way too much away

This is true to a certain extent.
 
jett said:
If they want me to get excited on this movie the studio better release a trailer that doesn't make the movie seem like a total piece of shit.

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Infernal Affairs ftw.
You definitely hate the trailer purely because of the horrible PF cover.

I do too.

But I am still hyped to see this movie.
 

Solo

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CajoleJuice said:
You definitely hate the trailer purely because of the horrible PF cover.

I do too.

But I am still hyped to see this movie.

QFT for so many people. Id love to see people's reactions had it been the original track. As ridiculous as it sounds for a track in a trailer, I bet a lot more people would have dug it.
 

GG-Duo

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I'm interested in knowing how it compares to Infernal Affairs...

If it's a worse or equal film, then what's the point of a remake? On the other hand, there's a potential for them to use a westernized spin on the whole purgatory thing, i guess.
 

Tabris

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Scullibundo said:
This movie is going to be awesome. Bless Scorsese and his affinity for making great mob films.

Except he's not making it, he's copying it.

I have faith he'll do a great job in copying Infernal Affairs though.
 

Solo

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Tabris said:
Except he's not making it, he's copying it.

I have faith he'll do a great job in copying Infernal Affairs though.

First off all, thanks for ignoring my initial post about making this another "ZOMG DIS WILL SUCK CUZ ITS A REMAKE LOLZ!" thread. Second, its being said already by some critics that this blows IA out of the water (which, though a movie I love, is vastly overrated). Third, its Scorsese, who on a bad day should make a better film than Andy Lau.
 

Eric P

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i LOVE the original IA trilogy (i even bought the trilogy box set that came out in 04. the limited edition one with the recut trilogy version), and i can say without a doubt that i look forward to this movie as well.

a lot of people bitch about remakes and whatever, but ever since The Ring, i realized that it's possible to take each movie on its own merits which doesn't take away from the original, or your appreciation of the original.
 
Tabris said:
Except he's not making it, he's copying it.
That doesn't even make any sense. He's making the remake. It's a different movie, based on a prior movie. There's a lot more to a film than its plotline.
 

nitewulf

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should be good enough. i just dont think IA had to be remade at all, since the production values and acting were awesome to begin with. and whereas i love both andy lau and tony leung...i hate dicaprio.
anyway, still watching first day though, jack nickelson is awesome.
 

whytemyke

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woodchuck said:
I don't know. I think DiCaprio is one of the best actors in hollywood along with Matt Damon and Jack Nicholson
same here. i used to really hate on dicaprio but then I realized that every movie he does is pretty ****in awesome. gangs of new york was sweet. I didn't like The Aviator but his acting was phenomenal.
 
I've seen all three Mo Gan Do (infernal affairs) and i loved the first one and liked the other two. the role that Tony Leung plays is so badass
 

LM4sure

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Currently at 100% on rottentomatoes with 10 reviews. This will be infinitely better than Infernal Affairs! Can't wait!!


"As much as I appreciate the films he has made over the last decade, there is no denying that The Departed is Scorsese's best film since Goodfellas. It's just a f***ing awesome movie."

Posted Oct 2, 2006 11:01 AM PDT


SOLD!
 
A well done remake by an reknown director of an already proven great movie....I guess I shouldn't be surprised...still I wonder how much I'ill keep thinking of Andy Lau and Tony Leung when I see Leo and Wahlberg....they were just so awesome in Infernal Affairs.
 

Pellham

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4 stars from James Berardinelli, and he is a very conservative critic (he also saw the original Infernal Affairs). Wow!

He also said it ranks up there with Scorsese's best works like Taxi Driver, Goodfellas, etc.
 
Pellham said:
4 stars from James Berardinelli, and he is a very conservative critic (he also saw the original Infernal Affairs). Wow!

He also said it ranks up there with Scorsese's best works like Taxi Driver, Goodfellas, etc.

Yea a 4 star from him is pretty big, I think he gave only one film from 2005 4 stars. Not that I'm saying there were much 4 star films last year, but still.
 

Tabris

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HomerSimpson-Man said:
A well done remake by an reknown director of an already proven great movie....I guess I shouldn't be surprised...still I wonder how much I'ill keep thinking of Andy Lau and Tony Leung when I see Leo and Wahlberg....they were just so awesome in Infernal Affairs.

It's actually Leo and Damon. Wahlberg plays just one of the cops. Not the SP.
 
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