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Wii's next test: Dead Space Extraction
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MikeE21286
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someone needs to make a .jpg of the "Wii Mature Games Test" similar to that of the "Year of the Playstation 3" one where all the games are scratched off of it....
seriously though, gettin a little silly.
seriously though, gettin a little silly.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
Then, well jesus, buy it people.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Well, here's the thing.BrandNew said:
These tests can only be failed. Or negated. They can never, ever be passed.
The game could do great and the result to EA would be "Oh, Wii owners love on-rails shooters, good thing we know that now and don't have to put anymore effort in."
If the game does poorly, the result to EA would be "Man, Wii owners sure hate mature games, good thing we know that now and don't have to put anymore effort in."
Test games are, in essence, totally rigged.
SmallTimeLeon
Banned
Before we see posts about "More tests on Wii", this one is different.
EA and their mature games on Wii hypothesis: Gamers who own a Wii and a PS3/360/PC have played the original installment on the PC/360/PS3. Because of this, they are not going to do a port, but a completely different experience in the same universe while keeping key elements of the franchise intact.
Is there an audience for this? We are going to find out by November (October NPD releases then and Dead Space is released by the end of September).
EA and their mature games on Wii hypothesis: Gamers who own a Wii and a PS3/360/PC have played the original installment on the PC/360/PS3. Because of this, they are not going to do a port, but a completely different experience in the same universe while keeping key elements of the franchise intact.
Is there an audience for this? We are going to find out by November (October NPD releases then and Dead Space is released by the end of September).
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
It's a good thing they didn't water down the genre and turn it into a rail shooter then. Now we can finally see how Wii fans react to a full fledged high budget adventure game with comparable design choices to the HD iterations of the IP.
Wait, they what?
Wait, they what?
The Wii owner's Catch-22 continues...
ShockingAlberto
Member
A key element of the franchise to me is, like, movement.SmallTimeLeon said:
There seems to be this false idea here that not doing a port means that it should automatically equal a rail shooter. There should not be complete and utter acceptance of this idea simply because it's the best EA is willing to give.
If this is a test, it's a multiple choice test with half the answers missing. Sure, it might squeak through, but it's a little fucking slanted.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
Complainers about this game need to gtfo. I'm glad they went with this route, it fits the Wii's strengths much more than trying to make it similar to the 360/PS3 game.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
The trick here is that hypothesises cannot be confirmed.
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
Yeah, it would be totally crazy to actually make a game in the style of RE4 on the Wii.BrandNew said:
Dudes, gimping the experience is like, a unique feature and stuff! "The Wii's strengths", smh.
ElectricThunder
Member
Sad to see another test statement.
Can't help this time guys. I was there for most all the other railshooters promptly, but it just can't hold up against the onslaught of the, remaining, Fall/Winter stuff with the dwindling funds otherwise.
Maybe next year for this and REDC unless lots of money falls my way.
Can't help this time guys. I was there for most all the other railshooters promptly, but it just can't hold up against the onslaught of the, remaining, Fall/Winter stuff with the dwindling funds otherwise.
Maybe next year for this and REDC unless lots of money falls my way.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I'm...confusedBrandNew said:
What about the Wii's strengths negate movement?
I've moved in a lot of Wii games. I don't remember it being particularly difficult.
Fimbulvetr
Member
ShockingAlberto said:
Isn't the system of shooting in Dead Space extremely similar to RE4 in fact?
Well, it didn't sell 9 million copies like Assassin's Creed, but it still sold 1.5 million copies and had 3 million people play it. That's far from terrible.JDSN said:
Sohter.Nura
Member
I'll buy the game because I _KNOW_ it will be good.
Now, I played Dead Space on X360, and yes, I WAS disappointed by the fact that it's on-rails. Is it going to be bad? No, it's not. Do I wish it wasn't on-rails?
Yes.
Now, I played Dead Space on X360, and yes, I WAS disappointed by the fact that it's on-rails. Is it going to be bad? No, it's not. Do I wish it wasn't on-rails?
Yes.
jim-jam bongs
Member
Well I'm confused. I had assumed that RE:UC and DS:E were attempts to sell mature games to otherwise "casual" gamers. They expect us to buy them?
A Twisty Fluken
Member
EA's next test: Profitability
EmCeeGramr
Member
you're a bad persondoomed1 said:
ShockingAlberto
Member
The thing isSnuggler said:
You do that and people can honestly say, yeah, they made their best effort. They didn't make compromises with this product. It was the best Wii game it could be.
But they're clearly compromising here and also saying "MAN, THERE'S NO REASON FOR THIS NOT TO SELL EXCEPT WII OWNERS BEING ASSHOLES" and that's making my head hurt from both sides.
Rush2thestart
Member
Seriously? Wow.
Couple of things here...
1. Dead Space wasn't exactly a huge seller on the PS3/360
2. It's a railshooter, which typically don't sell well without IP recognition (see: RE: Chronicles)
3. If we "pass" the test, we're going to get more railshooters, not more traditional games like the original Dead Space. Not saying railshooters are bad, but I think the Wii should have its fill on them after Darkside Chronicles (for another year at least).
Personally, I think it won't do well at all, but it will be a great game. EA is setting themselves up for disappointment.
Couple of things here...
1. Dead Space wasn't exactly a huge seller on the PS3/360
2. It's a railshooter, which typically don't sell well without IP recognition (see: RE: Chronicles)
3. If we "pass" the test, we're going to get more railshooters, not more traditional games like the original Dead Space. Not saying railshooters are bad, but I think the Wii should have its fill on them after Darkside Chronicles (for another year at least).
Personally, I think it won't do well at all, but it will be a great game. EA is setting themselves up for disappointment.
evilromero
Member
I'll buy Silent Hill SM for Wii but I'm not touching a game that could have very well been a full-on third person adventure.BrandNew said:
what happens when you have a good Nintendo fan put into a bad situation?EmCeeGramr said:
you see, i WOULD have bought a not-on-rails Extraction. THAT would interest me. and i'd totally want that one to succeed because a clear correlation can be brought up between HD Deadspace and the kinds of games that show up on HD systems. i wouldn't have cared that it didn't look as good. look at Shattered Memories for example. it seems to be perfectly creepy and scary, and all without "HD power." what matters to me is to have enjoyable, and wholesome experiences. the latter isn't really met with this game, since the on-rails aspects decrease the depth of the overall gameplay. it's almost insulting, to me AND every Wii owner.Snuggler said:
Alcibiades
Member
As a Wii owner I have no interest in anymore budget spinoffs... if this was a near-identical port of Dead Space with a mega-budget then it would catch my attention.
Where do they get the idea that there is a high amount of cross-ownership? Almost all the research so far says most gamers (mainstream and hardcore) own only one system.
Dead Space Extraction would be attractive if it came 6-12 months after a Wii port of Dead Space and was released at no more than $29.99.
Where do they get the idea that there is a high amount of cross-ownership? Almost all the research so far says most gamers (mainstream and hardcore) own only one system.
Dead Space Extraction would be attractive if it came 6-12 months after a Wii port of Dead Space and was released at no more than $29.99.
Well he is clearly aware of what the winning formula has been for hit third party software on Wii. :lol
Isn't the entire point of courting developers the idea that it is less risky? What the hell would they be accomplishing by spending the same amount of money trying to sell something to a less responsive audience?
Meesh
Member
Kind of a n00b question, but wouldn't sales figures prove their reasoning? Sure they could claim DSE didn't sell enough...but hard numbers should prove one way or the other...unless development costs were high?grandjedi6 said:
That EA VP statement sounds almost like a threat...buy or else...the weird thing is, while I can fully appreciate a new mature game designed for Wii (and will buy DSE), my heart still yearns for more of an over the shoulder adventure. And based on the statement made by EA, (if I may be a little facetious) Wii may only ever get on-rails-side-story type stuff because "the people that play the mainstream entries would rather play on 360 or PS3 and those are core gamers." So we're damned if we buy DSE, because if it succeeds we'll get another on rails sequel ala RE: DSC, and we're damned if we don't; we'll never get another Dead Space experience on Wii....I dunno, kinda frustrating...
permutated
Banned
Second said:
I agree.
This kind of attitude annoys me. Buy this or no more carrots to you?
They are the ones who want my money, make a good product, and if I can afford it I'll buy it. Treat your costumers with respect and don't pressure them, because I don't care if you fail.
Please, come back when I can move the characters legs.
They are the ones who want my money, make a good product, and if I can afford it I'll buy it. Treat your costumers with respect and don't pressure them, because I don't care if you fail.
Please, come back when I can move the characters legs.
yankeeforever2
Member
I lost total interest when it was announced to be on rails, I will just play all the other on rails mature games on the Wii if I wanted on rails.
flintstryker
Banned
That's a pretty dumb reason to not buy a game imo, it would be like me saying i won't buy Silent Hill SM because it could have very well been a full fledged movie. Also from impressions from people who actually play this, i gathered that its pretty good, which is all that's important to me.evilromero said:
Cow Mengde
Banned
If there is justice in this world, then both DSE and RE: DSC will both bomb horribly. At least that way, Wii fans know not to get their hopes up when either franchise has a game coming only to be greeted with disappointment.
Shin Johnpv
Member
BrandNew said:
I don't like on rail shooters so no.
So they've finally come out saying that this is a test despite the many people in GAF saying that this was turned into a rail shooter because EA wanted a different version of the game on the Wii? :lol
Oh GAF, when will you learn, sometimes when 3rd party on the wii does something that's really stupidly obvious, that's because it is.
Oh GAF, when will you learn, sometimes when 3rd party on the wii does something that's really stupidly obvious, that's because it is.
DSC will sell just fine, but all things considered, Capcom will probably end up making a fully fledged RE game for the Wii, even RE5.Cow Mengde said:
edit: i have to stop half-assing my posts like DR:CTYD :lol
perhaps it would be better to say that as a on rails shooter, it doesn't interest one way or the other. the fact of what could have been just makes things sting all the more. it would be like instead of getting a sequel to your favorite animated film, they do a shitty, low budget slice of life spinoff on Disney or Nickelodeon with none of the original voice cast to cash in instead.flintstryker said:
It's just as much of a test for Dead Space, which was an excellent game that came out of nowhere. Like Batman Arkham Asylum. think multi-console owners will be picking up Dead Space on Wii because they're fond of it, not because they want to sample some new genre on the Wii.
ShineALight
Member
Every day on this message board, I am not exaggerating, I read something that makes me lose more faith in the industry or game "journalists". This is the quotation that does it for today.
I'm a multiplatform owner, I like my Wii and I'd like more "core" games, as dumb as I think that designation sounds. I've bought pretty much every "test" so far and have been happy with most of them, but I don't know if I'll be doing that this time. Maybe I'll just use my Wii for niche Japanese games and Nintendo franchises (as well as the odd honest third-party effort). I'm so sick of the tests, the moving goalposts, the half-assed efforts and the condescending tone. They can keep their "core" games at this point.
I'm a multiplatform owner, I like my Wii and I'd like more "core" games, as dumb as I think that designation sounds. I've bought pretty much every "test" so far and have been happy with most of them, but I don't know if I'll be doing that this time. Maybe I'll just use my Wii for niche Japanese games and Nintendo franchises (as well as the odd honest third-party effort). I'm so sick of the tests, the moving goalposts, the half-assed efforts and the condescending tone. They can keep their "core" games at this point.