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PAL Charts - Week 51, 2010

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dabra

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Many many thanks to Raist, felipeko, BishopLamont and dabra for taking their time doing it every week!
Thanks to Captain Smoker, Frankfurter, test_account, donny2112 , Phife Dawg, tiong_fi, sensi97, 830920, Verve, Dash Kappei, Road and slaughterking for their contribution.



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UK:

Originally Posted by Chart-Track:

29/Dec/2010

The penultimate chart of the year remains headed by Activision Blizzard’s ‘Call of Duty: Black Ops’ (+13%) having claimed 6 weeks out of 7 so far since launch (‘Gran Turismo 5’ claimed one week at the top back in week 47).

Entertainment Software sales only climb 5% in units/value over last week which means that in terms of units the market is the biggest this year (but only 442 units up over the ‘Black Ops’ inspired previous biggest week of 2010 back in week 45) and second biggest this year in terms of revenue (behind week 45, some £28m short of that all time record-breaking week). As you would expect there is little change over last week with EA’s ‘FIFA 11’ at No2 (+27%) and EA’s ‘Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit’ at No3 (-8%). Ubisoft’s ‘Just Dance 2’ remains at No4 (+4%) and Ubisoft also remain at No5 with ‘Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood’ (+0%). 3 titles re-enter the Top 10 and they are EA’s ‘The Sims 3’ up 6 places to No7 (+32%), Microsoft’s ‘Kinect Sports’ up 7 places to No8 (+25%) and Ubisoft’s ‘Michael Jackson: The Experience’ up 3 places to No9 (+13%). 2 older titles enter the Top 40 for the first time, the promoted Wii/360/PS3 ‘Monopoly Streets’ from EA at No28 (+76% / released in week 44, 2010) and Ubisoft’s Wii ‘Raving Rabbids: Travel in Time’ at No29 (+51% / released in week 47, 2010).
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Week 51, 2010 - Individual Formats (Units)

01 (01) WII Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft)
02 (03) 360 Call Of Duty: Black Ops (Activision Blizzard)
03 (02) PS3 Gran Turismo 5 (Sony Computer Ent.)
04 (10) 360 Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
05 (05) PS3 Call Of Duty: Black Ops (Activision Blizzard)
06 (04) 360 Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit (Electronic Arts)
07 (11) PS3 Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
08 (07) 360 Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (Ubisoft)
09 (15) 360 Kinect Sports (Microsoft)
10 (14) WII Michael Jackson: The Experience (Ubisoft)
11 (09) PS3 Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit (Electronic Arts)
12 (08) WII Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
13 (12) NDS Professor Layton And The Lost Future (Nintendo)
14 (16) PS3 Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (Ubisoft)
15 (06) WII Donkey Kong Country Returns (Nintendo)
16 (13) WII Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
17 (24) 360 Fallout: New Vegas (Bethesda Softworks)
18 (18) WII Just Dance (Ubisoft)
19 (25) 360 Dance Central (Microsoft)
20 (17) WII Wii Party (Nintendo)
21 (19) NDS New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
22 (26) WII Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
23 (20) 360 Medal Of Honor (Electronic Arts)
24 (22) WII New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
25 (29) 360 Red Dead Redemption: Undead Nightmare (Take 2)
26 (21) PS3 Medal Of Honor (Electronic Arts)
27 (30) WII Disney Epic Mickey (Disney Interactive Studios)
28 (39) WII Raving Rabbids: Travel In Time (Ubisoft)
29 (28) 360 Fable Iii (Microsoft)
30 (36) PS3 Red Dead Redemption: Undead Nightmare (Take 2)
31 (31) WII Goldeneye 007 (Activision Blizzard)
32 (33) PS3 Fallout: New Vegas (Bethesda Softworks)
33 (27) 360 Halo: Reach (Microsoft)
34 (32) WII Sonic Colours (Sega)
35 (37) WII Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
36 (23) NDS Art Academy (Nintendo)
37 (__) 360 The Sims 3 (Electronic Arts)
38 (34) WII Super Mario All-stars 25th Anniversary (Nintendo)
39 (__) 360 Forza Motorsport 3: Ultimate Collection (Microsoft)
40 (35) PC Football Manager 2011 (Sega)


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Ireland:
Week 51, 2010 - Entertainment Software (All Prices)

01 (02) Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
02 (01) Call Of Duty: Black Ops (Activision Blizzard)
03 (05) Gran Turismo 5 (Sony Computer Ent.)
04 (03) Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit (Electronic Arts)
05 (04) Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (Ubisoft)
06 (06) Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft)
07 (07) Michael Jackson: The Experience (Ubisoft)
08 (08) The Sims 3 (Electronic Arts)
09 (20) Fallout: New Vegas (Bethesda Softworks)
10 (16) Red Dead Redemption: Undead Nightmare (Take 2)
11 (17) Kinect Sports (Microsoft)
12 (15) Medal Of Honor (Electronic Arts)
13 (09) Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
14 (11) Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
15 (18) Harry Potter: The Deathly Hallows Part 1 (Electronic Arts)
16 (14) New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
17 (__) Goldeneye 007 (Activision Blizzard)
18 (__) Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
19 (10) Professor Layton And The Lost Future (Nintendo)
20 (13) Just Dance (Ubisoft)


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Denmark:
Week 51, 2010 - Entertainment Software (All Prices)

01 (01) Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
02 (02) Call Of Duty: Black Ops (Activision Blizzard)
03 (04) Gran Turismo 5 (Nordisk Film)
04 (07) Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit (Electronic Arts)
05 (03) World Of Warcraft: Cataclysm (Activision Blizzard)
06 (06) Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft)
07 (09) Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (Ubisoft)
08 (05) Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
09 (08) The Sims 3 (Electronic Arts)
10 (11) New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
11 (15) Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
12 (14) Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
13 (10) New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
14 (12) Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
15 (16) Medal Of Honor (Electronic Arts)
16 (13) The Sims 3: Late Night (Electronic Arts)
17 (__) Donkey Kong Country Returns (Nintendo)
18 (17) Harry Potter: The Deathly Hallows Part 1 (Electronic Arts)
19 (__) World Of Warcraft: Wrath Of Lich King (Activision Blizzard)
20 (18) Lego Harry Potter: Years 1-4 (Warner Bros. Interactive)


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Netherlands:
Week 51, 2010

01 (01) [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops (Activision)
02 (04) [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 (Sony Computer Ent.)
03 (02) [WII] Donkey Kong Country Returns (Nintendo)
04 (05) [360] Call of Duty: Black Ops (Activision)
05 (06) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
06 (07) [PS3] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
07 (08) [PS3] Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (Ubisoft)
08 (__) [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
09 (__) [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
10 (__) [PS3] Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit (Electronic Arts)


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France:
Week 50, 2010

01 (01) [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops (Activision)
02 (03) [WII] Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft)
03 (04) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
04 (02) [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 (Sony)
05 (05) [WII] Donkey Kong Country Returns (Nintendo)


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Week 49
Week 48
Week 47
Week 46
 
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dabra

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Spain :




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Italy :
Week 50, 2010

01 (02) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
02 (01) [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 (Sony)
03 (03) [WII] Wii Fit Plus + Balance Board (Nintendo)
04 (06) [WII] Donkey Kong Country Returns (Nintendo)
05 (09) [360] Kinect Adventures (Microsoft)
06 (07) [NDS] Art Academy (Nintendo)
07 (__) [PS3] Call of Duty Black Ops
08 (04) [PS3] Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (Ubisoft)
09 (05) [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
10 (__) [WII] Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft)


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Norway:



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Finland:



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Sweden:
Week 51, 2010

01 (01) [PC] World of Warcraft: Cataclysm
02 (09) [WII] New Super Mario Bros Wii
03 (03) [PS3] Gran Turismo 5
04 (02) [WII] Donkey Kong Country Returns
05 (08) [PS3] Call Of Duty: Black Ops
06 (04) [360] Call Of Duty: Black Ops
07 (06) [360] Kinect Sports
08 (07) [PS3] FIFA 11
09 (10) [NDS] New Super Mario Bros.
10 (05) [360] Kinect Adventures
11 (11) [360] FIFA 11
12 (18) [WII] Mario Kart Wii
13 (12) [PS3] Assassin's Creed Brotherhood
14 (15) [360] Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit
15 (19) [PC] Call Of Duty: Black Ops
16 (14) [PS3] Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit
17 (16) [360] Assassin's Creed Brotherhood
18 (17) [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2
19 (19) [PC] The Sims 3
20 (__) [360] Dance Central


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Germany :
Week 51, 2010

01 (01) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
02 (03) [WII] Donkey Kong Country Returns (Nintendo)
03 (02) [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 (Sony)
04 (06) [WII] Wii Fit Plus + Balance Board (Nintendo)
05 (04) [NDS] Professor Layton And The Lost Future (Nintendo)
06 (__) [PS3] Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit (Electronic Arts)
07 (10) [PS3] Call Of Duty: Black Ops (Activision Blizzard)
08 (09) [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
09 (08) [PS3] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
10 (05) [WII] Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft)


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Australia :



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New Zealand :



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Nordic Chart (Denmark + Finland + Norway + Sweden)
Week 51, 2010

01 (01) Call Of Duty: Black Ops
02 (02) FIFA 11
03 (03) Gran Turismo 5
04 (06) New Super Mario Bros
05 (05) Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit
06 (07) Assassin's Creed Brotherhood
07 (04) World Of Warcraft: Cataclysm
08 (08) The Sims 3
09 (10) Mario Kart
10 (09) Donkey Kong Country Returns
11 (11) NHL 11
12 (12) Super Mario Galaxy 2
13 (14) Wii Fit Plus
14 (__) Lego Star Wars The Complete Saga
15 (18) Kinect Sports
16 (__) Mario & Sonic: at the Olympic Winter Games
17 (__) Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
18 (17) Kinect Adventures
19 (13) Toy Story 3
20 (__) Lego Indiana Jones 2: The Adventure Continues


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Nuclear Muffin

Banned
Epic Mickey still climbing, as is Kinect Sports (well, it'll probably be the 1st choice amongst new owners so its no surprise that it's gotten good legs)

DKCR probably fell thanks to Game's brilliant idea to bump up the price to £43.99...
 
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[Nintex]

Member
Brashnir said:
Move software sales are definitely not helped by the fact that the best piece of Move software is packed in with the starter bundle.
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In Europe you just get a demo disk not Sports Champions.
 
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wackojackosnose

Member
Nuclear Muffin said:
DKCR probably fell thanks to Game's brilliant idea to bump up the price to £43.99...
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Yeah, what the fuck at that! I noticed that pretty much all the £40 games went up to £43 just before Christmas, but VAT goes up next week. Fuck heads!
 
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szaromir

Banned
Brashnir said:
Move software sales are definitely not helped by the fact that the best piece of Move software is packed in with the starter bundle.
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Not in Europe. Beaten.

Kottick must be happy. So is Rare I can imagine.
 
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Deacan

9/10 NeoGAFfers don't understand statistics. The other 3/10 don't care.
wackojackosnose said:
Yeah, what the fuck at that! I noticed that pretty much all the £40 games went up to £43 just before Christmas, but VAT goes up next week. Fuck heads!
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Funny that as I dont remember Game putting the price down when VAT was at 15%
 
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Dynoro

Member
Nuclear Muffin said:
Epic Mickey still climbing, as is Kinect Sports (well, it'll probably be the 1st choice amongst new owners so its no surprise that it's gotten good legs)

DKCR probably fell thanks to Game's brilliant idea to bump up the price to £43.99...
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I noticed Game selling stuff (not just DKCR)for £43 yesterday; they are taking the piss atm - almost up to Aussie levels :lol
 
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Nuclear Muffin

Banned
Deacan said:
Funny that as I dont remember Game putting the price down when VAT was at 15%
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It's nothing to do with VAT. DKCR is the only game where they've raised the price.

They've done it because they think they can get away with it, simple as.

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Dynoro said:
I noticed Game selling stuff (not just DKCR)for £43 yesterday; they are taking the piss atm - almost up to Aussie levels :lol
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What other games have they raised? DKCR is the only one I've seen wher the price has been raised.
 
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szaromir

Banned
[Nintex] said:
Depends on who you ask. :lol
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Even if some eployees don't like the direction of the company, at least the ones that worked on the game must be happy it is commercially successful.
 
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scently

Member
[Nintex] said:
Depends on who you ask. :lol
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So Rare is unhappy that its game is selling. The fact that a few (former) Rare employees left and are unhappy with the direction the company is heading means nothing as they are not part of the company anymore.

EDITH: szaromir please stop reading my mind and say things before I can articulate it. :p
 
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Dynoro

Member
Nuclear Muffin said:
What other games have they raised? DKCR is the only one I've seen wher the price has been raised.
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I'm almost certain Codblops and Assassins Creed Brotherhood were that price too as I was looking for them; just needed a magazine stand to tip over in disgust
 
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wackojackosnose

Member
Dynoro said:
I'm almost certain Codblops and Assassins Creed Brotherhood were that price too as I was looking for them; just needed a magazine stand to tip over in disgust
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I noticed it with NSMB Wii as well but other shops also raised its price (HMV). Seems like they're trying to get us ready for next week. :(

Good thing I pretty much live in the CAG thread - £18 or get the fuck out. :p
 
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szaromir

Banned
Hammer24 said:
Seriously, who doesn´t like to see his employer get back to financial success?
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Yeah, but even outside of job security, it must be depressing to see you games tanking one after another. This one seems to resonate with the intended audience much better (even if it's a ripoff conceptually).
 
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CrunchinJelly

formerly cjelly
Looks like there were a few Kinect's under Christmas trees this year. Not sure what happened to Move, maybe 3D will help Sony next year?
 
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Gowans

Member
wackojackosnose said:
Yeah, what the fuck at that! I noticed that pretty much all the £40 games went up to £43 just before Christmas, but VAT goes up next week. Fuck heads!
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There is more than enough competition that makes GAME prices look so stupid. Hate that place!
 
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Hammer24

Banned
szaromir said:
(even if it's a ripoff conceptually).
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Uhm, which game isn´t? COD:BO f.i. is one for sure, and I can´t imagine a single person in the company grumbling about the financial success it is.
 
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[Nintex]

Member
szaromir said:
Yeah, but even outside of job security, it must be depressing to see you games tanking one after another. This one seems to resonate with the intended audience much better (even if it's a ripoff conceptually).
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The succes is another reason for guys to leave who just got word that Kinect Sports 2 was greenlit. Remember that a huge chunk of that avatar clothing and stuff you see is done in house, so one day you're designing levels for Perfect Dark Zero and GoldenEye 360 and the next day you're making generic hats. Not to mention that most but not all of the 'Rare Family' had something to do with Kinect Sports. If you knew about the stuff that was cancelled just for a single Sports game(because Fitness, Music and all didn't make the cut this year :lol ) than you'd be pissed too.
 
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szaromir

Banned
[Nintex] said:
The succes is another reason for guys to leave who just got word that Kinect Sports 2 was greenlit. Remember that a huge chunk of that avatar clothing and stuff you see is done in house, so one day you're designing levels for Perfect Dark Zero and GoldenEye 360 and the next day you're making generic hats. Not to mention that most but not all of the 'Rare Family' had something to do with Kinect Sports. If you knew about the stuff that was cancelled just for a single Sports game(because Fitness, Music and all didn't make the cut this year :lol ) than you'd be pissed too.
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I wish we all could have a job we're passionate about.
 
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GCX

Member
Ubisoft is making big bucks with Wii software.

Just Dance 2 + Michael Jackson + Just Dance + Raving Rabbids = £££££££
 
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Kenka

Member
GCX said:
Ubisoft is making big bucks with Wii software.

Just Dance 2 + Michael Jackson + Just Dance + Raving Rabbids = £££££££
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They know their job well. One of the great winners of this generation.
 
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test_account

XP-39C²
Pity that there is no percentage drop or increase info for GT5 :\ I think that it is safe to assume that GT5 passed 600k sold this week, but without any percentage info we cant know for sure how much the game is selling.
 
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Deacan

9/10 NeoGAFfers don't understand statistics. The other 3/10 don't care.
GCX said:
Ubisoft is making big bucks with Wii software.

Just Dance 2 + Michael Jackson + Just Dance + Raving Rabbids = £££££££
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Plus it helps when you sell your software for £20-£15, and advertise that price on TV.
 
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Dunlop

Member
[Nintex] said:
If you knew about the stuff that was cancelled just for a single Sports game(because Fitness, Music and all didn't make the cut this year :lol ) than you'd be pissed too.
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Poor babies can't work on what they want so the company can reach profitabity, thats why it is called a job and not happy play time.
I work in the healthcare sector and am surrounded by despair and dying people. I get over it by providing for my family.
I respect the people that left, just not people who whine about their employers and are too chicken shit to leave and do something about it and instead bring everyone else in the workplace down.
There is literally an army of laid off game developers that will happily fill the void.

On topic, I am surprised that Kinect is moving up the ranks. I really thought the space requirments would make the addon DOA
 
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dabra

Member
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Ireland:
Week 51, 2010 - Entertainment Software (All Prices)

01 (02) Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
02 (01) Call Of Duty: Black Ops (Activision Blizzard)
03 (05) Gran Turismo 5 (Sony Computer Ent.)
04 (03) Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit (Electronic Arts)
05 (04) Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (Ubisoft)
06 (06) Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft)
07 (07) Michael Jackson: The Experience (Ubisoft)
08 (08) The Sims 3 (Electronic Arts)
09 (20) Fallout: New Vegas (Bethesda Softworks)
10 (16) Red Dead Redemption: Undead Nightmare (Take 2)
11 (17) Kinect Sports (Microsoft)
12 (15) Medal Of Honor (Electronic Arts)
13 (09) Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
14 (11) Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
15 (18) Harry Potter: The Deathly Hallows Part 1 (Electronic Arts)
16 (14) New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
17 (__) Goldeneye 007 (Activision Blizzard)
18 (__) Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
19 (10) Professor Layton And The Lost Future (Nintendo)
20 (13) Just Dance (Ubisoft)

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Denmark:
Week 51, 2010 - Entertainment Software (All Prices)

01 (01) Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
02 (02) Call Of Duty: Black Ops (Activision Blizzard)
03 (04) Gran Turismo 5 (Nordisk Film)
04 (07) Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit (Electronic Arts)
05 (03) World Of Warcraft: Cataclysm (Activision Blizzard)
06 (06) Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft)
07 (09) Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (Ubisoft)
08 (05) Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
09 (08) The Sims 3 (Electronic Arts)
10 (11) New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
11 (15) Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
12 (14) Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
13 (10) New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
14 (12) Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
15 (16) Medal Of Honor (Electronic Arts)
16 (13) The Sims 3: Late Night (Electronic Arts)
17 (__) Donkey Kong Country Returns (Nintendo)
18 (17) Harry Potter: The Deathly Hallows Part 1 (Electronic Arts)
19 (__) World Of Warcraft: Wrath Of Lich King (Activision Blizzard)
20 (18) Lego Harry Potter: Years 1-4 (Warner Bros. Interactive)
 
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BenjaminBirdie

Banned
Dunlop said:
Poor babies can't work on what they want so the company can reach profitabity, thats why it is called a job and not happy play time.
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Can't help but feel the same way. As much as I love Rare and miss their games (I'm a huge fan of everything they've done THIS gen), it's a job. You're getting paid. As a gamer it's unfortunate (although I've yet to get Kinect Sports) but I have trouble feeling bad for people in the game industry who've actually kept their jobs.
 
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Sho_Nuff82

Member
Rare has their biggest hit since PD zero and employees are complaining? I'd be popping bottles.

Edit: GT5 has shown impressive legs everywhere.
 
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Dabanton

Member
Is it actual current employees complaining or ex ones?

Pretty fucking cowardly if they are actually working on these games and then pissing and moaning on the side.
 
poppabk

poppabk

Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Dabanton said:
Is it actual current employees complaining or ex ones?

Pretty fucking cowardly if they are actually working on these games and then pissing and moaning on the side.
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Yeah what kind of jerk works for a company and then complains about their work, their bosses, and their company :lol
 
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Dabanton

Member
poppabk said:
Yeah what kind of jerk works for a company and then complains about their work, their bosses, and their company :lol
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Obviously. :lol

But if your talented enough why not just up sticks? I was in a shit job that was making me ill. I quit and now have my mental wellbeing back as well as being in a job i enjoy.

Lifes too short to despise going to work.

I can see where some in Rare have come from with the resentment of what some of them are doing now but no one was buying the games they put out B&K:Nuts and Bolts which was one of the best games they've made comes out, reaction on places like GAF "we don't want this". A few people came LTTP when they actually gave the game a chance.
 
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apana

Member
Dabanton said:
Obviously. :lol

But if your talented enough why not just up sticks? I was in a shit job that was making me ill. I quit and now have my mental wellbeing back as well as being in a job i enjoy.

Lifes too short to despise going to work.

I can see where some in Rare have come from with the resentment of what some of them are doing now but no one was buying the games they put out B&K:Nuts and Bolts which was one of the best games they've made comes out, reaction on places like GAF "we don't want this". A few people came LTTP when they actually gave the game a chance.
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It's not that we don't want it, it's just that we would rather not have it as a replacement for an actual banjo kazooie game. It's fine if they make nuts and bolts in addition to making a Banjo platformer. I think Rare would have been better off with Nintendo or a third party publisher, but Microsoft did pay out an insane amount of money and so they get to call the shots.
 
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Sho_Nuff82

Member
apana said:
It's not that we don't want it, it's just that we would rather not have it as a replacement for an actual banjo kazooie game. It's fine if they make nuts and bolts in addition to making a Banjo platformer. I think Rare would have been better off with Nintendo or a third party publisher, but Microsoft did pay out an insane amount of money and so they get to call the shots.
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If you didn't buy it, that's all the message MS is going to take home. And let's not forget that Rare's last game under Nintendo was Star Fox Adventures (the poster child for executive meddling) and that Retro studios was moved away from their pet projects to work on a Rare revival over at Nintendo. Any good, responsible publisher is not going to let the talent just do whatever the fuck they want, at some point you have to put out a hit game to justify being on the payroll.
 
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szaromir

Banned
cjelly said:
The Guardian does it again...
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Interesting, 360 versions tend to sell 25% more then PS3 ones. The Guardian's charts + week one sales number + week over week sales changes let's us estimate actual sales for many top titles. I wish it was possible with other European markets.
 
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apana

Member
Sho_Nuff82 said:
If you didn't buy it, that's all the message MS is going to take home. And let's not forget that Rare's last game under Nintendo was Star Fox Adventures (the poster child for executive meddling) and that Retro studios was moved away from their pet projects to work on a Rare revival over at Nintendo. Any good, responsible publisher is not going to let the talent just do whatever the fuck they want, at some point you have to put out a hit game to justify being on the payroll.
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I'm not sure what you are trying to argue here since I never said that Microsoft doesn't have a right to tell Rare what to do. They paid an insane amount of money for them, of course they do. From my perspective as a gamer I would have preferred they stay with Nintendo because right now they would have most likely been working on either DKC, Banjo platformer, or Diddy Kong racing. As for Retro they were given the option of working on the DKC series. They were experimenting on their own ideas when they were offered the job, Miyamoto was expecting them to reject the proposal but fortunately for us they didn't.
 
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Hammer24

Banned
[Nintex] said:
The succes is another reason for guys to leave who just got word that Kinect Sports 2 was greenlit. Remember that a huge chunk of that avatar clothing and stuff you see is done in house, so one day you're designing levels for Perfect Dark Zero and GoldenEye 360 and the next day you're making generic hats. Not to mention that most but not all of the 'Rare Family' had something to do with Kinect Sports. If you knew about the stuff that was cancelled just for a single Sports game(because Fitness, Music and all didn't make the cut this year :lol ) than you'd be pissed too.
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If thats true, I´m just glad those clowns don´t run the company. In the end I´m happy Rare is around longer.
Watch out for KS having insane legs and sell more than PDZ.
 
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