electroplankton
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Kid Icarus: Uprising will support the 3DS Circle Pad Pro
- Thread starter electroplankton
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So it should be all touchscreen?
No it doesn't. They're not going to add the second pad without the triggers.
Impossible to reasonably add them. Nintendo's not going to make a handheld that's an inch thick. If even Sony couldn't add triggers to Vita, what makes you think that Nintendo can add them to 3DS?
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
As a lefty I can't imagine controlling movement with my right thumb. Dual stick gameplay would've been the way to go Nintendo. I think we're all comfortable with it at this point.
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
The point is not that the 3DS has better 3rd party support than the Wii (which is pretty obvious), the point is that the peripheral is completely OPTIONAL, that means, you buy a 3DS now without the peripheral, and the games are 100% playable without requiring it.
The M+ support is greater because some games required it, like Zelda, RS2, Flingsmash (sucks, I know), Wii Sports Resort and Wii Play Motion. Also, most of those are NINTENDO GAMES. This is not the case with most 3DS games, and it's not surprise that the Sakurai game supports it, Brawl supported the GCN controller for heaven's sake!
Some other games have the M+ optional, but it enhances greatly the experience (Tennis and Golf games); this is not the case with CCPro; you may prefer using it, but it will not be the definitive controller for anything; there is nothing developed with the CCPro in mind.
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
I was going to say this.
It could have been anything really. I don't care as long I get good at it.
But it missed its spot with lefties, and righties were mostly unconvinced.
And Circle pro is just to get a bit more mass appeal and was decided during the 3DS crisis.
Nintendo won't send it to its death, its not their style but clearly they have reevaluated its strategic importance (and the numbers it will do) but it's cooler now since the Marios are killing the charts.
It's not using two sticks at the same time. It's merely an option for lefty players (right analog to move, stylus to aim/shoot).
I fail to see how one Nintendo game (developed by an outside company) supporting optionally a peripheral that happens to be exclusive to one retailer in the US is a confirmation of anything, to be honest.
Yes, but none of that stuff could be inferred from your original post, so I don't understand why you're piling it all on now.
M+ and the Pro aren't even comparable in the way that you've outlined- one uses tech that is new and foreign to many devs and requires a great deal of work and forethought to implement, the other is a relatively simple addition with a decade's worth of applications to copy from.
I first played this at Nintendo World 2011;
- I told the Japanese Nintendo staff and the Austrlalian one who was there that I couldn't play it and they should add a left handed mode somehow.
- I played the game again at the Australian 3DS launch party and told everyone at Nintendo Australia, including the boss that I couldn't play it.
- I've tweeted to Sakurai about 50 times, in English and Japan about it.
- I played the game at a retailer briefing for the 3DS I snuck into in my home town.
- I played the game again at a Nintendo Event and told them again.
Thank me later.
I'm not one of these crazy left handed people (cough Dragona) who can't play the Wii normally, play Golf normally or use normal scissors. I can't write or use a stylus though in my right hand. It just don't work.
- I told the Japanese Nintendo staff and the Austrlalian one who was there that I couldn't play it and they should add a left handed mode somehow.
- I played the game again at the Australian 3DS launch party and told everyone at Nintendo Australia, including the boss that I couldn't play it.
- I've tweeted to Sakurai about 50 times, in English and Japan about it.
- I played the game at a retailer briefing for the 3DS I snuck into in my home town.
- I played the game again at a Nintendo Event and told them again.
Thank me later.
I'm not one of these crazy left handed people (cough Dragona) who can't play the Wii normally, play Golf normally or use normal scissors. I can't write or use a stylus though in my right hand. It just don't work.
Thanks Vook! You shall get for your reward this bit of blu-tack that's been on my desk for months.
I told someone at the London 3DS event last year about the need for a lefthanded mode so I'm glad they finally listened. Now I can play it, wheeeeeee!
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I told someone at the London 3DS event last year about the need for a lefthanded mode so I'm glad they finally listened. Now I can play it, wheeeeeee!
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No, not at all.
StreetsAhead
Member
And I now have a reason to buy a Circle Pad Pro, was gonna get the game regardless.
Smooth move, Nintendo.
Smooth move, Nintendo.
I hope to see you in the credits of the game, at this point! XD
Okay.
sixteen-bit
Member
I thought this was confirmed ages ago.
GitarooMan
Member
Lol at how many people are jumping to the conclusion of dual analog support.
Nope. I was actually worried they wouldn't implement it considering how close we are to launch now.
Reluctant-Hero
Member
Damn, saw the thread title and got excited at no more stylus. Then I read the details... =(
I'm pretty sure Iwata is not laughing when it comes to Kid Icarus. And announcing Smash Bros so early was the deal for letting Sakurai do his thing with Nintendo's money.
Kid Icarus was supposed to be a love letter to hardcores with sufficient coating to get some family sales too. Gameplay has never hit the desired mark whichever hand you use.
ProtomanNeo
Member
I think until the 3DS lite, or whatever the redesign is, we'll see most if not all games including the possibility of using the circle pad.
electroplankton
Banned
Who knows if it'll be sold in bundle.
UncleSporky
Member
High five, Pork. I've been saying this for ages.
I mean I guess it's still just a prediction based on logic and all but really now.
EDIT: Well apparently I can't high five you because you are suddenly ban't.
JimboJones
Member
Can i use the ABXY buttons for movment?
I'd rather that than having to rely on that attachment.
I'd rather that than having to rely on that attachment.
UncleSporky
Member
Yes, that was confirmed ages ago I thought? Not that it's ideal.
Reluctant-Hero
Member
Has GameStop even listed the slide pad yet in the US?
Wolfe
Member
I like how you call out everyone that doesn't like holding the 3DS with one hand (and still using key inputs such as the analog stick/shoulder button) while using the stylus as "really sucking at video games" only to follow it up with "felt perfectly natural, for me."
I played the thing for 5-10 minutes at PAX but hey it's nice to know I just suck at video games.
And yes it is funny to me all the people jumping to the two analog stick support without reading the whole thing, it's the first thing I assumed as well and would have wanted.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Fucking dumb if they're making it stylus-only either way. Give us dual-analogue- you have the option, so going stylus-only is a fundamental bad decision if you go that way.
If only the 3DS had a thumbstrap
If only the 3DS had a thumbstrap
Neoriceisgood
Member
I don't really understand the love for dual-analogue. Is this because I've never used a dual-analogue controller and don't know what I'm missing?
Hot Coldman
Banned
Well, we're not able to get mouse-and-keyboard (or Wii Remote/Nunchuk) so it's the next best option.
The main perk of dual-analogue is camera control for third-person action games. It also does a serviceable job at emulating mouse aiming for FPS games - it can't hang with true mouse controls, or stylus controls, or pointer controls, but if the games are designed with dual-analogue aiming in mind they can be pretty fun.
The big disadvantage of aiming with the stylus is that is limits the amount of buttons you can use, as your right hand is completely occupied with aiming and other touchscreen-related stuff.
Oni Link 666
Member
Did any of you play Sin & Punishment 2 with a GameCube or Classic Controller?
Franklinator
Member
I hope the circle pad pro is bundled with this
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
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Day 1 purchase beyond confirmed. I actually thought the game looked like an awesome idea, but the Prime Hunters control system would have been too much of a pain.
Edit: YES, I saw the lefties remark, but that's just a justification for including support. I swear to god, I bet Sakurai probably had to rationalize it that way to get approval for support.
However, this is Sakurai. I would be stunned if the game doesn't have full control mapping options for just about any configuration, with circle pad pro installed.
Day 1 purchase beyond confirmed. I actually thought the game looked like an awesome idea, but the Prime Hunters control system would have been too much of a pain.
Edit: YES, I saw the lefties remark, but that's just a justification for including support. I swear to god, I bet Sakurai probably had to rationalize it that way to get approval for support.
However, this is Sakurai. I would be stunned if the game doesn't have full control mapping options for just about any configuration, with circle pad pro installed.
Why would you do that?
Member
Good news for lefties! I hope more stuylus games will support it, for lefties' sake.
If there were a boss where I had to keep my hand still, I'd switch to Classic Controller to make it much easier. Specifically Level 5 (desert level)'s boss - Couldn't beat it at first until switching.
If there were a boss where I had to keep my hand still, I'd switch to Classic Controller to make it much easier. Specifically Level 5 (desert level)'s boss - Couldn't beat it at first until switching.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Thank you Nintendo!
Online and circle pad pro!
Online and circle pad pro!
Exactly.
Never should've doubted that this game would use it. As a left handed gamer, interest renewed!
ITT people don't read. There's no confirmation of twin stick controls anywhere, just being able to use it as a lefty mode. Don't start assuming it'll be there or there'll just be rage when it releases.
I am happy it's there as a left-dominant writer, but I'll probably trudge through it without the CPP just to carry around less.
I am happy it's there as a left-dominant writer, but I'll probably trudge through it without the CPP just to carry around less.