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Miyamoto: PS4/Xbox One "easily $100 more if they came with Gamepad"

Part of Wii’s success, I think most would agree, was its $250 price, which made it hundreds of dollars less expensive than competing systems for years. Sony’s PlayStation 4 is going to debut only slightly more expensive than the Deluxe Wii U. Do you think you’d capture more of the audience you sold the Wii to if you could get the Wii U Deluxe model’s price down by $100? Even $50?

Unfortunately, I’m not the one who determined the price, so I can’t provide a specific answer on the price of the system. But the one thing that I think everyone needs to understand is that when you’re buying a Wii U, you’re buying a hardware system that comes with a tablet-like device and so if any of the other hardware systems were to try and include a tablet or device similar to the Wii U GamePad, those hardware systems would go up in price by easily a hundred dollars or more.

Another interesting piece:

You’ve talked about powerful consoles having the “too many ferocious dinosaurs” in the room problem, but Quantic Dream made an interesting point with its The Dark Sorcerer PlayStation 4 demo about system power delivering, in the right hands, the ability to bring a level of emotional dimensionality to, say, the modeling of human expressiveness that’s unheard of in gaming.

From my perspective, with regard to the more powerful hardware systems, to me what still remains incredibly important is the developers maintaining a focus on creating unique games because if all that everyone does is uses the enhanced power to create more and more games that look and feel the same, then all that it becomes is a competition about the power of the hardware rather than the uniqueness of the experience. That, to me, is where developers should be devoting their effort.

Part of a larger interview.
 

H3xum

Member
It'd be a few hundred more if it came with a bar of silver too, whats his point?

aka we're not cutting the price
 
Does this mean Nintendo is going to resist a price drop as long as possible? If so, I anticipate bundles galore this holiday season.
 

Radec

Member
The WiiU might actually cost like $100 if you remove the gamepad and just bundle it with a normal controller.

Atleast thats what I believe the console is worth.
 
J

Jotamide

Unconfirmed Member
Enough with the stubbornness and cut the price Nintendo!
 

Hiltz

Member
If PS4 is only $100 less than Xbox One, then it's gotta be that new Kinect that's making it expensive. Something most Xbox gamers are not going to care about.

I think Miyamoto makes an interesting point about the obsession over hardware power, but Nintendo's guilty of not providing enough games that justify the existence of Wii U beyond the convenience of off-TV play and its user interface for netflix and web browsing. Most 1st party games could have been made on the Wii from a game play perspective. So far, it seems like only Nintendo Land, Wii U Party and Game & Wario are putting the GamePad to the test. Not all games have to use the GamePad in a clever way, but Nintendo's clearly had trouble communicating the value of the console because of the GamePad. It's just kind of funny how the big games that are coming out later this year don't really demonstrate why the GamePad is special.
 

Bedlam

Member
I'd instantly buy a WiiU if it came with a normal controller and was $100 cheaper. Hate that gimmicky second-screen crap.

There you go, Miyamoto.
 

nampad

Member
I can totally see how a resistive touchscreen and digital triggers are so expensive. It's not like you can get whole tablets with a SoC etc. for under a hundred bucks.
Even including the NFC and wifi chip it isn't worth that much.
 

Yawnier

Banned
I really don't think it is in Nintendo's best interest for Miyamoto to say something like this, but whatever....
 

onQ123

Member
Because they was smart enough to Join the Tablet / Smartphone generation instead of jumping in front of the speeding pullet by trying to go against it.


more people own Tablets & Smartphones now than there will ever be Wii U's
 

ShogunX

Member
Nintendo need to release a no game pad version of the Wii U just like MS should release a non Kinect version of the Xbox one.

People can then pay less and buy them separately should they be needed. Sadly both MS and Nintendo want to force them upon us.
 

Sendou

Member
I can totally see how an resistive touchscreen and digital triggers are so expensive. It's not like you can get whole tablets with a SoC etc. for under a hundred bucks.
Even including the NFC and wifi chip it isn't worth as much.

You aren't just speaking out of your arse, are you?
 

jmdajr

Member
Xbox 1 without Kinect is probably 399.

So Wii with a hard drive is..... 399..too? 50 bucks more?

How about the base model WiiU without the pad. 199?

Why not sell it will classic controller. 229!

OH THE COMBINATIONS!
 
Miyamoto said:
From my perspective, with regard to the more powerful hardware systems, to me what still remains incredibly important is the developers maintaining a focus on creating unique games because if all that everyone does is uses the enhanced power to create more and more games that look and feel the same, then all that it becomes is a competition about the power of the hardware rather than the uniqueness of the experience. That, to me, is where developers should be devoting their effort.

I find this quote rich coming from the company who is basically releasing HD revisions of Wii games on Wii U.

Just because you pack in a hardware gimmick with your system doesn't make your games automatically innovative. Same thing applies to Xbox One. Show the people why the Gamepad is necessary, because the games haven't convinced the masses yet.
 

benny_a

extra source of jiggaflops
Imagine Gran Turismo 6 with a gamepad?

The honking would be amazing.
WiiU_MarioKart8_imageP01_E3.jpg
 
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