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Kitase on FFVII Remake:"You must believe me when I say it would take a lot to happen"

valtiel

Banned
This is a sad statement imo. It means to make a game as large and grand as ff7 it is beyond the ability of square. But that's what we all want.

It probably means if FF15 disappoints... They're finished, they'd have to settle for making handheld ports and hopefully retouched versions of those three PS1 games.
 

Jetman

Member
he said in order to remake Final Fantasy 7 to the quality of Final Fantasy 13 it would take three or four times longer than it took to develop the divisive PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 game.

Remake of Final Fantasy XIII incoming. Extra Lightning Missions + 200 extra costume pack for Lightning DLC.
 

AkuMifune

Banned
Agreed. I just think of all the man hours and resources wasted on that damn FFXIII trilogy. Blaughgh

Yeah, the could have made fistfuls more money than they did, ignoring even the long term damage they've done to the brand.

Kitase man. You must believe me when I say you guys have made a ton of mistakes and are flushing money and the franchise away.
 
Uh, it's fine. FF7 was a great game, but... it was... a great game. Still is a great game. As are many of the FF titles. Not sure why FF7 should be singled out as the one that should get a big budget remake.
 
Yeah that's what make me sad than just "Oh no, they wouldn't remake VII"

Well they could make a game as big and grand as VII, they did so with FF titles even beyond that. The problem is that it may have been easier for them to do so with the technology back then; now people have such excruciatingly high visual demands that making a game like that with the graphics and scale that people expect now WOULD be an incredibly daunting task.
 
They have been saying this same thing for 10+ years now. If they would of just started on it back when they complained about how long it would take to remake, it would be close to finished by now.

I think originally they said it would take 12 years to remake. Well, we are almost there.

E3 surprise!
 

Kuja9001

Banned
You seriously want trash like this to be in the game?

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fertygo

Member
Well they could make a game as big and grand as VII, they did so with FF titles even beyond that. The problem is that it may have been easier for them to do so with the technology back then; now people have such excruciatingly high visual demands that making a game like that with the graphics and scale that people expect now WOULD be an incredibly daunting task.

Yup, to expect them to realize Midgard in today AAA standard is impossible ;__;
XV probably gonna have minimalist overworld and other thing than what they must do for VII remake.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
This is obvious to anyone who has really thought through the logistics of what it would take to remake this game.

Remakes are to cash in. To print money. A VII remake would be as big an endeavor as a new FF game, if not bigger. At that point, why not just build a new game? Would it really be cashing in... Or would being an old game actually limit the sales potential of what is now a AAA budget title?
 

massoluk

Banned
But I don't want FF13 level remake, I just want higher quality backgrounds and models, may be a few tweaks here and there.
 

Valnen

Member
This is obvious to anyone who has really thought through the logistics of what it would take to remake this game.

Remakes are to cash in. To print money. A VII remake would be as big an endeavor as a new FF game, if not bigger. At that point, why not just build a new game? Would it really be cashing in... Or would being an old game actually limit the sales potential of what is now a AAA budget title?

I don't think this would be the case at all. If it's essentially a new game, old fans will buy it, and new people will buy it too IF word of mouth is good. Bottom line is, if the game is good, people will buy it.
 
It's crazy that a remake could be considered his life's work, well I guess messing around with the beloved FF7 is a daunting task.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I don't think this would be the case at all. If it's essentially a new game, old fans will buy it, and new people will buy it too IF word of mouth is good. Bottom line is, if the game is good, people will buy it.
People will buy X/X-2 HD too... But as many as a new mainline game?
 

Sublyminal

Neo Member
Exactly. I don't trust Square-Enix to remake FF7, there's too many things they'd tinker with (or "improve" in their words), and they'd wind up making something horrific like FFXIII with an FFVII skin painted on.

I can imagine it now.... Midgar turned into one long corridor, the entire support pillar section turned into a cutscene, Wall Market removed, designed altered to match Advent Children, all the cartoon jokes removed, etc...

Even if they were faithful to the original game, they'd break the bank making the remake. FFVII cost ~$45M back in the mid-90s. With the inflated budgets of today's games and the huge amount of content in VII, you're looking at a hefty price tag.

They should focus on restoring the franchise's reputation.

So in today's money it would be about 70 million adjusted for inflation. Considering the most expensive game ever made was GTA5 at 270$ million with marketing. I highly doubt a FF7 remake would come anywhere close to that amount.

FF12 cost 40 million to make, so lets add 20 million to the cost of FF13 and still we only come up with 60 million...Granted FF13 was a corridor game at best. So again, a FF7 remake could easily be made for about 180 million. Throw in an extra 20-25 mil for marketing and you have 205 million total cost. The original made Square almost 600 million.

A remake would still make Square a hefty profit, even at inflated costs. And honestly, I do believe a lot more than 9.72 million people would buy the game this time around.

Just my two cents.
 

Sephzilla

Member
I actually don't think FF6 needs a remake. The sprite style holds up plenty fine to this day. FF7 needs it more because it very clearly looks like an early PS1 game and doesn't hold up visually at all.
 

entremet

Member
He obviously isn't talking about a mobile port. But, that's exactly what we're going to get.



See, this is exactly what I'm talking about when I say every choice to change or not change something will piss some people off. I would want the battle/materia system to stay exactly how it was.

Not the materia system, but the characters, they're pretty similar outside of limit breaks and some with ranged weapons.

Give me some more variety and difficulty.
 
He may have directed the game, but I think Nomura should handle this job for the remake. He's kind of the overseer of that universe, and I trust him. I'm not sure I trust Kitase's judgement anymore.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
FFX isn't a full remake. We don't really know how much a full remake with a huge budget would sell because it hasn't really been tried yet has it?
But "maybe it will sell as well" isn't exactly "cashing in" like so many have suggested a VII remake will be.
 

Valnen

Member
But "maybe it will sell as well" isn't exactly "cashing in" like so many have suggested a VII remake will be.

I can't imagine an FF7 remake being any riskier than FF15 or any other new game at this point with Square's current reputation honestly. People already don't trust FF15 because of FF13.
 

Skilletor

Member
I really don't understand why people keep lobbying "long corridors" and FF13 type maps as something SE would try to do when they didn't even try to do that with the FF13 sequels.

You guys need to be like Elsa and let it go.
 

Caronte

Member
I really don't understand why people keep lobbying "long corridors" and FF13 type maps as something SE would try to do when they didn't even try to do that with the FF13 sequels.

You guys need to be like Elsa and let it go.

XIII-2 had plenty of corridors too. Not as bad as XIII of course, but the exploration wasn't that good in most of those areas from what I remember.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I can't imagine an FF7 remake being any riskier than FF15 or any other new game at this point with Square's current reputation honestly. People already don't trust FF15 because of FF13.
That's fair to speculate. As long as we're all on the same page that a VII remake would be the equivalent of an XV-sized investment.
 

kswiston

Member
And honestly, I do believe a lot more than 9.72 million people would buy the game this time around.

Just my two cents.

How many remakes have ever beat the sales of the original game? Hardly any. The only one I can think of that was close was Super Mario 64 DS. Most remakes sell much worse than the original. See every Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest remake ever for examples.
 

Sublyminal

Neo Member
How many remakes have ever beat the sales of the original game? Hardly any. The only one I can think of that was close was Super Mario 64 DS. Most remakes sell much worse than the original. See every Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest remake ever for examples.


The thing is though, not many people wanted the other FF remakes as bad as people want the FF7 remake. So again, that's easily a million plus sales and then there are all the newer generations that never got to experience FF7.
 

fertygo

Member
Why they must go with ambitious route though?

I'd say fan gonna still lap it up if its only handheld game with lesser investment than mega-project as long its good.. the staff probably will pour more heart to it because less burden.

Probably its just not an option because they already opening their mouth about how VII is their masterpiece and shit though.
 

Terra

Member
Oh...I stopped caring , as this seems to never become reality. I thought there would be a remake last gen, for the PS3. It would be my reason to buy one.


The best games in the series are (in my humble opinion ofc) FF7, FF9 and FF12.
I would really like to see a remake of these.
 

Caronte

Member
The thing is though, not many people wanted the other FF remakes as bad as people want the FF7 remake. So again, that's easily a million plus sales and then there are all the newer generations that never got to experience FF7.

You're crazy if you think every single person that bought the original game wants a remake.
 
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