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Kitase on FFVII Remake:"You must believe me when I say it would take a lot to happen"
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Hades Hotgun
Banned
This can't be said enough. They have no idea what actually made the game good and could never do it justice.
plasmawave
Banned
But making shitty FF13 sequels is easy peasy.
Polioliolio
Member
I'll take NO FF over any FF any day.
(From Squareenix)
Actually, Squareenix, just stop making games. Please.
To be fair, yes it is. They re-use the engine the characters and lots of assets. Not saying they should keep it up, but it's clearly not as difficult as making a new game from the ground up.
plasmawave
Banned
I don't remember the sequels sharing that much assets?
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
He obviously isn't talking about a mobile port. But, that's exactly what we're going to get.
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about when I say every choice to change or not change something will piss some people off. I would want the battle/materia system to stay exactly how it was.
hellmonkey
Member
PS4 is x86, Just port the PC version, easy peasy.
thebisonxrc
Member
I really enjoyed FF7 in 1997, but now it's time to put this to rest. Let it go.
rhophiehalul78
Member
Don't remake please. I think it will not live up to the hype.
sephiroth7x
Member
Noooooo...
It was all part of the charm of the game, you start tinkering and it starts to become ruined!
kitschbeam
Member
Press on, Kitase.
Seriously, people need to stop asking for FFVII HD remake.
Seriously, people need to stop asking for FFVII HD remake.
I don't even think it needs the full 3D remake treatment. I like the 2D pre-rendered backgrounds; I just wish they were more detailed and ultra-high res. Redraw them, spruce them up to 11 in widescreen etc..
The polygon-based models are where the real work needs to be done. Just make the characters look as close to the FF movies as possible, with full 3D for the battles like before, but 10000x more detailed. I don't even mind the cartoonish style player models against the pre-rendered backdrops of the original. Just get rid of the hooves for feet.
No need to change much in the way of gameplay. The battle system may be old, but it's still fun and people love it. Don't fix what doesn't need to be fixed etc..
Square Enix could save years and millions doing this. I think fans of the original would appreciate it more too, as I don't trust modern SE to do a faithful full-3D remake.
The polygon-based models are where the real work needs to be done. Just make the characters look as close to the FF movies as possible, with full 3D for the battles like before, but 10000x more detailed. I don't even mind the cartoonish style player models against the pre-rendered backdrops of the original. Just get rid of the hooves for feet.
No need to change much in the way of gameplay. The battle system may be old, but it's still fun and people love it. Don't fix what doesn't need to be fixed etc..
Square Enix could save years and millions doing this. I think fans of the original would appreciate it more too, as I don't trust modern SE to do a faithful full-3D remake.
Real FF fan here. I want a remake.
Played it just last November. Still awesome.
blitzcloud
Banned
the real marvel of ff7 is that it was 1997 japan corny. 2014 corny would destroy it completely.
That doesn't mean that when we see the ending of crisis core with the "my name is cloud, soldier, first class" you don't get goosebumps. But it means that when the game gets on the comedy department, it would simply not work.
And remaking it on the original style would be considered kiddy and not what "the fans" want (implying those fans who will bitch and whine).
That doesn't mean that when we see the ending of crisis core with the "my name is cloud, soldier, first class" you don't get goosebumps. But it means that when the game gets on the comedy department, it would simply not work.
And remaking it on the original style would be considered kiddy and not what "the fans" want (implying those fans who will bitch and whine).
legacyzero
Banned
I don't think I want a FF7 remake from Square these days. I would worry about quality.
This = win.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Fans will bitch and whine if they ever remake it. The game would make an enormous profit, regardless. But fans will bitch about any change, the art style used and even if they were to change nothing and somehow pick an art style that doesn't piss anybody off, then the fans will bitch that it was just a 1-to-1 port with high res textures.
SE's best move would be to make a game so awesome that fans stop asking for remakes of decades old games.
...lol
SE's best move would be to make a game so awesome that fans stop asking for remakes of decades old games.
...lol
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
There is a legion of FFVII fanboys that would work for free on a remake with Square. Get people to telecommute.
"Alright Bob from Colorado sent us this new redesign of the 2nd Floor of the Reactor 5 dungeon and we got the updated electrical panel texture from Emily in Wisconsin."
"Alright Bob from Colorado sent us this new redesign of the 2nd Floor of the Reactor 5 dungeon and we got the updated electrical panel texture from Emily in Wisconsin."
What fans? The fans that keep saying FF6 is the best FF ever? 7? 9?
No game is going to satisfy every FF fan. They're all different and as a result the fanbase has extremely divisive opinions on each one.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I know you're joking, but imagine if they licensed out remakes on limited basis? Hmmm. Sexy.
That is literally my point. Like, literally literal.
Take a lot, Take a lot of what?
We all know he's talking about that damn hardware manufacturer who would need to moneyhat SquarEnix to death.
But they aren't clever enough to use the same technlogy as before (pre-rendered backgrounds) and will spent too many ressources to redo everything in full 3D.
We all know he's talking about that damn hardware manufacturer who would need to moneyhat SquarEnix to death.
But they aren't clever enough to use the same technlogy as before (pre-rendered backgrounds) and will spent too many ressources to redo everything in full 3D.
Sorry, didn't pick up on that. Too many SE threads revolve around the joke that, "they can't make good games," that it's hard to pick up on the jokes.
I assume he means himself, physically, mentally, pride in the end product...all that stuff. It's one of the most famous, loved games ever. The stress of remaking something which so many have already idealized in their heads would be enormous, imo. Every single screenshot would be analyzed, researched, compared to the original. You'd have fans hating that something is changed, fans hating that something isn't changed enough. The size of the game would be huge. Overseeing all of that would be...just wow. I definitely understand where the man is coming from. You'd have to mentally ready yourself for the endeavor far before you even started.
I don't think he's talking about money at all.
Making an FF7 remake would be moving forward in the only way that matters, making quality games.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Sorry, didn't pick up on that. Too many SE threads revolve around the joke that, "they can't make good games," that it's hard to pick up on the jokes.
Nah, I like SE for the most part.
Eric the Red
Member
Geez Kitase, can you just stop it with the FFVII talk and give us more Lightning. We don't have enough Lightning. She's a very popular character. Whenever she's not around all the gaf members ask, "Where's Lightning?"
They discarded a lot of assets during the development of FF13. Rather then completely getting rid of them it's heavily implied they used those to make the sequels.
The Praiseworthy
Member
I've been waiting for this to happen more than a decade.
Now reading this I realized that... I've finally let it go!
Don't touch this masterpiece SE, please just let it be.
Now reading this I realized that... I've finally let it go!
Don't touch this masterpiece SE, please just let it be.
Anticitizen One
Banned
Didn't Verandus say it was in the works. Was he BSing?
Honestly, with the way SE moves these days, if they're not already working on it right now, don't expect it in the next decade. They're like the Valve/Blizzard of Japan with their development process it seems.
A complete remake would probably have the same budget as a brand new numbered FF game, though that might be justified because it would be virtually guaranteed to sell a few million copies.
Even an "HD port" would cost considerably more than, say, FFX HD because basically none of FFVII's original assets are re-usable. All the CG and backgrounds would have to be completely re-done from nothing.
Even an "HD port" would cost considerably more than, say, FFX HD because basically none of FFVII's original assets are re-usable. All the CG and backgrounds would have to be completely re-done from nothing.
That's why you don't even try to make a fully-realized 3D Midgar with the same apparent quality as "HD towns are hard" FFXIII.Kitase said:
FFXIII took a shortcut by putting the game on rails.
FFVII took a shortcut by making the game pre-rendered.
This was possible on PSone.
This was possible on PS2.
Just remake FFVII in HD and it can be drop dead gorgeous.
useyourfist
Member
personally id be more than happy if they gave us the original psx versions of 7-9 on the ps4 with trophies and some touched up sprites and higher res. Would like a full remake just from a graphical point of view, but dont trust Square to do it justice, so best to leave alone
MagnaderAlpha
Member
Given Square's stance regarding "moving forward" and how they still really are stuck in both the past and present(if you move forward, you can't stop for nearly a decade just to smell the crystal roses), I don't think true progression is Square's thing.
Progression, like change, is a contradiction to everything current Square stands for.
quickwhips
Member
I think they should redo FF7 and FF13 as top down games like Final Fantasy 6. Wouldn't cost alot and probably would be pretty cool.
QuantumZebra
Member
XIV = good, XIII series = good, Kingdom Hearts = good, Bravely Default = good.
Working pretty well I'd say.
