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PS4 sells 322,083 units in two days in Japan

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Forceatowulf

G***n S**n*bi
jres80 said:
And it barely outsold the Wii U by less than 15k. I'm not sure how anyone can look at these numbers and conclude anything.

What matters is the long term.
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WiiU launched in a holiday season with Mario. PS4 in late Feb with shooters, ports, and free Knack.

And if we want to play the "But it barely sold more than WiiU and that console fell off a cliff!" game, well then I can play the "But it's not too far behind Wii numbers and that console sold like gangbusters!" game.

Nobody knows what's gonna happen next. What we do know, considering the circumstances surrounding Japans video game scene at the moment, this is a sales victory. Period.
 
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wotta

Member
~~Hasan~~ said:
i was expecting a total sell out based on the world wide situation the PS4 is facing currently. so its below what i expected by far to be honest.

with that being said, where are the japanese developers? i do not see many japanese games anymore. not on mobile even. whats with this.
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Based on shipped no's of 350,000 it will be a total sell out by the time we get media create figures tomorrow. Remember those figures are only for Sat/Sun.
 
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Mihael Mello Keehl

Banned
shinra-bansho said:
I'm not saying it shouldn't be discussed. I just don't see how these launch numbers don't constitute good first two day sales.

If there are indications of demand already collapsing within these two days, or something, that would be something to consider I suppose.
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And I didnt say you said it shouldnt be, im just simply saying its always gonna be discussed. Regardless the circumstances.
 
zeopower6

zeopower6

Member
Pretty good! :D People were panicking too early. Honestly, I'm not sure what it would've had to sell for people to not be so negative >_>
 
W

Winternet

Banned
someone said earlier that sony shipped 350k units to the japanese launch.
If thats true then sony sold the entire shipment in just 2/3 days.
congratulations.
 
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Bebpo

Banned
suppadoopa said:
Not on mobile? What App Store have you been looking at lately.

If you want Japanese games, Vita and 3DS is your solution
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No, he's kind of right. Even taking Vita/3DS/Mobile into consideration, the amount of developers and Japanese games being made is a far cry from the 2001-2007 era of PS2/GBA/DS. A lot of companies have downsized or closed and there's not as many Japanese games being made overall. A good majority of franchises are dead or dying as their sales plummet entry after entry.

Japanese games still exists, but the industry has semi-crashed in the last 7 years over there. Who knows what it will take to get people designing games again. If only their indie scene was taking off in financial stability like the western Indie devs with Steam greenlight, humble bundles, PSN/XBLA/WiiUware.

Having a financially enticing self-published indie scene that gets recognition and allows developers to move on to bigger projects is one of the ways out of this mess; but there needs to be something that starts that trend like how Doublefine's kickstarter sparked game kickstarting and classic game revivals.
 
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ShyGuy

Member
Kind of an unrelated question, but what do you guys think are the odds of some Japan-only editions later this year?

Similar to the white PS3, blue PS3, red PS3, Final Fantasy PS3

November/December 2014, would there be a chance of some limited edition PS4 consoles you think?
 
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cafemomo

Member
~~Hasan~~ said:
IOS. i have a vita though. i barely use it.
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Square and scamco has been supporting the App Store well. same with google play to and extent.

And you barely use your vita? C'mon mang. Loads of Japanese games on there

FFXHD, MGSHD, God Eater 2, Toukiden, Atlelier meth lab, Disgaea, Ninja Gaiden, dangitronpaul, Dead or Alive, EDF, etc.. etc..
 
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Gxgear

Member
300k seems like the number that's been tossed around prior to release, so right on target I suppose.

neurosisxeno said:
Considering the Japanese Market has the predictability of Helen Keller playing Darts, I wouldn't be surprised if it did PS2 numbers...
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You really think the 3rd generation of a locally rejected console line, one whose main feature requires space the Japanese don't have, is going to pull numbers comparable to the most successful home console of all time?

The Japanese market is different than the west, but it's far from unpredictable. Space is a high commodity so handheld is king. It prefers Japanese consoles, and it wants Japanese software.
 
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Aeriscloud

Banned
suppadoopa said:
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Suppa, none of those games were released within the first year of the PS2 in Japan, and more than half didn't make it within the first year for NA.
 
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Rex_Harrison

Banned
May16 said:
What? Why?
Every new system for the last few years has been over 300k, even the Wii-U.
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Read good much ?

So you consider the Nintendo Wii and the Wii U every new console in the last few years ? First of all they're both Nintendo. Second, they were 6 years apart. The only other non-Nintendo console in the past 16 years to surpass 300,000 was the PS2 nearly 14 years ago.

So yeah, this is kind of a big deal.
 
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theprodigy

Member
Rex_Harrison said:
Read good much ?

So you consider the Nintendo Wii and the Wii U every new console in the last few years ? First of all they're both Nintendo. Second, they were 6 years apart. The only other non-Nintendo console in the past 16 years to surpass 300,000 was the PS2 nearly 14 years ago.

So yeah, this is kind of a big deal.
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well let's see, consoles to launch in Japan since 2005:
Xbox 360 (LOL), Wii, PS3, Wii U
360 obviously doesn't count, so yes Wii and Wii U is almost every new console in the last few years

Dr. Feel Good said:
PS Vita TV.
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that's a joke right
 
V

vicissitudes

Banned
To provide more context:

The PS4, in February, in a country where consoles are "dying", sold about half as much as the PS4 did in ALL OF EUROPE, during the holidays, with a better line-up.
 
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madmackem

Member
Salvor.Hardin said:
Sounds like it came below Sony's expectations. Can't blame them given how it's blowing up everywhere else.
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I don't see how, it's a sellout how could it be below Sonya expectations, they launched last there with limited stock for a reason and they've been proved right. Good numbers given lack of japan centric software and the home console market being real soft there right now.
 
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EmptySpace

Banned
Jamix012 said:
The point of the original poster (Suppadoopa, a regular SalesGAFfer and with sometimes eccentric predictions about the Vita) was to demonstrate that the line up is dead in a sales context. If you interpreted it as anything else, that was simply a mis-communication. People who don't frequent sales threads do this all the time; when in a sales thread everything (unless otherwise specified) should be taken in the context of sales. Bringing in quality into a sales discussion is benign.
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then next time be clear with words. saying the lineup is barren isn't an indication of ps4 hardware sales or games being jpn-centric. describing games as jpn-centric is in and of itself qualitative. so you're defending the one who introduced quality into the discussion. you're saying "lineup is barren" actually means "games in the near future aren't jpn-centric therefore ps4 sales will remain stagnant or will decrease"? that's just a stretch.

it was crystal clear i was talking about the supposed drought in games aka quantity of games coming out for the ps4.
 
zeopower6

zeopower6

Member
I really wish people would consider that Japan isn't exactly a console market nor has it been one for a while... :/ Sure, it didn't sell like 400-500k, but I don't think they even shipped that many to Japan to begin with.
 
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Salvor.Hardin

Banned
DarkLordMalik said:
Do you work for Sony since you claim to know their expectations?

Mediacreate estimated the first week shipment as 350k, and the sales show that this is good.
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Nightengale said:
So what do you think Sony's expectations were?

92% sell-through in 48 hours is definitely meeting expectations, given second shipments isn't coming till 26th.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Media Create simple expect 350k? Why are you guys taking that as fact?


By most accounts there are plenty of available PS4 sitting on the shelves.
 
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Daingurse

Member
shinra-bansho said:
I'm not saying it shouldn't be discussed. I just don't see how these launch numbers don't constitute good first two day sales.

If there are indications of demand already collapsing within these two days, or something, that would be something to consider I suppose.
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I'm an eternal pessimist, lol. I don't want the sales to collapse, but I can't stop thinking "What if?"

Hope I'm wrong, and that this is simply a great 2 days of sales.
 
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Mung

Member
If they only shipped 350k, this is a good launch. Especially considering it's not the holidays.

It's impossible to predict what will happen going forward based purely on the launch, but in of itself, it is very good.
 
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slapnuts

Junior Member
hateradio said:
Only two were better than the PS4's sales, so I guess it's not that bad. Much, much better than the PS3.

1998.11.27 [Sega Dreamcast] (¥29.800) - 101.490 (3 days)
2000.03.04 [Sony PlayStation 2] (¥39.800) - 630.552 (2 days)
2001.09.14 [Nintendo GameCube] (¥25.000) - 133.719 (3 days)
2002.02.22 [Microsoft XBox] (¥34.800) - 123.929 (3 days)
2005.12.10 [Microsoft XBox 360] (¥29.000 / ¥39.795) - 62.135 (2 days)
2006.11.11 [Sony PlayStation 3] (¥49.980 / ¥59.980) - 88.443 (2 days)
2006.12.02 [Nintendo Wii] (¥25.000) - 371.936 (2 days)
2012.12.08 [Nintendo Wii U] (¥26.250 / ¥31.500) - 308.570 (2 days)
PS4 sells 322,083 units
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Considering the PS4 just about matched the Original Nintendo Wii and the Wii numbers are from December during the Holiday season....PS4 just about matching those numbers in Late Feburary is pretty good imho.

I was one of few that predicted it would do better than 300k as well in a different thread a few weeks back...so it's not too surprising to me but yet good to see these numbers. Of course I was not expecting HUGE numbers considering the state of console gaming in Japan so i supppose it makes these numbers even better considering the entire perspective of Japan.

Also...LMAO at the hermits making fun of PS4 numbers because it resembles Wii-U launch numbers in Japan...but yet they refrain from mentioning how PS4 almost matched the Original Wii numbers which launched in Japan during Holiday season... Trolls will be trolls but xbox fanboys should tred lightly ..PS4 fanboys will have last laughs im sure.
 
zeopower6

zeopower6

Member
Daingurse said:
I'm an eternal pessimist, lol. I don't want the sales to collapse, but I can't stop thinking "What if?"

Hope I'm wrong, and that this is simply a great 2 days of sales.
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They will probably slow down after this. Though the release of certain games in the next month or two will probably help sales out for sure.
 
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gundamkyoukai

Member
Bebpo said:
No, he's kind of right. Even taking Vita/3DS/Mobile into consideration, the amount of developers and Japanese games being made is a far cry from the 2001-2007 era of PS2/GBA/DS. A lot of companies have downsized or closed and there's not as many Japanese games being made overall. A good majority of franchises are dead or dying as their sales plummet entry after entry.

Japanese games still exists, but the industry has semi-crashed in the last 7 years over there. Who knows what it will take to get people designing games again. If only their indie scene was taking off in financial stability like the western Indie devs with Steam greenlight, humble bundles, PSN/XBLA/WiiUware.

Having a financially enticing self-published indie scene that gets recognition and allows developers to move on to bigger projects is one of the ways out of this mess; but there needs to be something that starts that trend like how Doublefine's kickstarter sparked game kickstarting and classic game revivals.
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They need people for that to happen and at the rate Japan going it's not looking good.
It's rather telling be it indie or AAA the lack of new blood in the Japanese gaming industry .
 
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Jamix012

Member
EmptySpace said:
then next time be clear with words. saying the lineup is barren isn't an indication of ps4 hardware sales or games being jpn-centric. describing games as jpn-centric is in and of itself qualitative. so you're defending the one who introduced quality into the discussion. you're saying "lineup is barren" actually means "games in the near future aren't jpn-centric therefore ps4 sales will remain stagnant or will decrease"? that's just a stretch from a three-word phrase.
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Wrong. People are discussing sales in a sales thread and any discussion of quality is completely pointless unless someone specifically specifies so. Having to add additional words is tedious and 99% of the time unnessecary. This was your mis-interpretation, not SuppaDoopa's doing, but no one has come out any worse in the end. I'd suggest dropping it and learning for the next time you're in a sales thread.

And yes, for reference "Lineup is barren" in a Japanese sales thread means "games in the near future aren't jpn-centric therefore ps4 sales will remain stagnant or will decrease."

Edit: No it wasn't crystal clear what you were talking about, because this is a sales thread and starting to talk about quality in a sales thread is the equivalent of talking about the sales of Platinum games in those games' OTs.
 
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Nightengale

Member
Salvor.Hardin said:
By most accounts there are plenty of available PS4 sitting on the shelves.
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Trackers are showing sold out in most big retailers. I don't doubt there's still a lot on,shelves, but those are clearly few and far by the end of day 2.

Also, Sony would need to be first class idiots if they thought they can sell above 500k in 2 days.
 
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