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[Hyun Sai]

What do you mean? Do you have some insider information?

I think he talks about that infamous chart site with guessed numbers we're not allowed to mention on Neogaf.

 

[BruiserBear]

Relative to the pedestal MS put the game on, pretty much.

It really makes me angry when a company pimps a new game on their console.

 

[Steroyd]

96% Xbox One week-week sales increase means nothing;
20% deserting out of a less than 2000 people survey means a lot.

Totally understood...

One of your examples has a solid number for context the other example does not, which is the point.

It really makes me angry when companies pimp a new game on their console.

I no rite?

I should just stfu and see Titanfall.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

What do you mean? Do you have some insider information?

He's talking about chartzzz, aka out of his ass. Let's not go down that road.

 

[Impeccable]

96% Xbox One week-week sales increase means nothing;
20% deserting out of a less than 2000 people survey means a lot.

Totally understood...

Math, how does it work???

 

[Zok310]

Pretty good bump.
So we are looking at 15-18k sold for the week?

 

[wotta]

...and the source for this?

Here:

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/ps4-outselling-xbox-one-1-5-to-1-in-the-uk/0127461

Think this is what I was thinking of initially:

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CEgQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mcvuk.com%2Fnews%2Fread%2Fps4-games-outselling-xbox-one-by-3-to-1-on-play-com%2F0127414&ei=h9UmU-2rApPwyAHF6oHgCw&usg=AFQjCNEbABq-TY_uODoaDMTy2_ADaJ6zWQ&sig2=H9IPvGGQouuAhxonNL1cqA&bvm=bv.62922401,d.aWc

 

[Loudninja]

Hmm PS3 sales jump 999% at the slim release.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/playstation-3-sales-rocket-1000-percent-on-slim-release_2

Not sure how it compares the PS3 did have a bigger pricedrop,but did not have a big title packed in.

 

[zhao3gold]

Clearly you don't.

Clearly, you don't like Xbox One or Microsoft...

 

[badb0y]

96% Xbox One week-week sales increase means nothing;
20% deserting out of a less than 2000 people survey means a lot.

Totally understood...

Statistics, how do they work?

Anyways seems like good news so let's see how the numbers turn out.

 

[PerZona]

No numbers and just percentages speaks volume about the sales.

 

[c0de]

Then why say it in the first place if you aren't willing to back up your claim?

Not willing to get banned is another thing than not willing to back something up. The site is known and people can easily check the numbers there.

 

[VE3TRO]

But percentage means fuck all right without actual number of units?

 

[bigbaldwolf86]

Not willing to get banned is another thing than not willing to back something up. The site is known and people can easily check the numbers there.

Oh you mean the random number generator site? Yeah there's a reason that site is banned

 

[TechnicPuppet]

And? Xbox One sold a shit tonne more than PS4 since then? What were last weeks hardware numbers so we can decide if 96% increase is good?

People are stating stuff in here as facts that aren't. I haven't. The XB1 did poorly in January in US and picked up in February. Whether that happened in UK as well I don't know.

 

[c0de]

So a bannable site says Xbox One sold more but the others didn't.... Cool.

Which other sites? Or do you get banned if you back up your "numbers"?

 

[Mr Moose]

Not willing to get banned is another thing than not willing to back something up. The site is known and people can easily check the numbers there.

It's that side which shall not be named.

V...V... VOLDEMORT!

People are stating stuff in here as facts that aren't. I haven't. The XB1 did poorly in January in US and picked up in February. Whether that happened in UK as well I don't know.

That's true, at least with the US, but we don't have UK numbers to see if this 96% is good or not. Sounds good, but it could just be PR without numbers to show it.

 

[DBT85]

96% Xbox One week-week sales increase means nothing;
20% deserting out of a less than 2000 people survey means a lot.

Totally understood...

2000 people survey is a substantial sample size.

 

[Tsundere]

Which other sites? Or do you get banned if you back up your "numbers"?

Has to pass all the checks.

 

[c0de]

It's that side which shall not be named.

V...V... VOLDEMORT!

Exactly

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

FFS people, it's not PR, it's the weekly MCV sales blurb. They keep their numbers closer than even NPD, they always state things by ranking or percentage.

Which other sites? Or do you get banned if you back up your "numbers"?

Tip, don't even allude to VG charts numbers in sales-age topics here. Ever. They have no place in the discussion. MCV, NPD, and numbers directly from retailers/publishers are a go. Nothing else.

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

I guarantee that the £30-80 price drop in some places + free game had a bigger impact than Titanfall itself.

That said, its clear the game is going to be a success and Microsoft should be happy for that.

 

[GoofsterStud]

Which other sites? Or do you get banned if you back up your "numbers"?

I never had numbers just a direct quote.

 

[gngf123]

Not willing to get banned is another thing than not willing to back something up. The site is known and people can easily check the numbers there.

Here is what you don't seem to be understanding: The site is banned because their numbers are extremely unreliable, and often completely made up.

At least, if it is the site we all think it is.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

One week of doubled sales in February NPD would have been nearly 120k.

Again, you are missing the details. One very big one is that this is the UK and not the US, with weekly February sales in the UK bearing no relevance to weekly February sales in the US.

Also, unless the Xbone had a price-cut in the US the week before this sales boost or whatever it was, comparisons would obviously be off. And there was no price-cut in the US.

 

[CrimsonCrescendo]

96% Xbox One week-week sales increase means nothing;
20% deserting out of a less than 2000 people survey means a lot.

Totally understood...

One week of sales increasing from, say, 10,000 to almost 20,000 is hardly a game changer. If it ends up being a permanent increase and is a launch pad for better sales, then in retrospect it will mean a lot. It's like if Nintendo said a game cause week to week sales to double: While good, they are still at a disadvantage and it probably won't last. A 1,700 person poll is larger than most Presidential Candidate polls and is a very statistically significant poll. Not the end all, but it is significant. I understand the rhetoric seems to get a bit much, but there is some truth to it.

 

[stryke]

Clearly, you don't like Xbox One or Microsoft...

How does what I like and don't like got to do with the percentage increase missing context?

 

[kevcampbell]

Lets see what boost the PS4 gets with TF2 or TF GOTY edition

 

[Frodo]

96% over previous week is not that impressive, to be honest. But a bump is always a good thing.

Now, if this trend continues on the following weeks... (not that I expect it to).

 

[Raist]

Hundreds of thousands of people played TitanFall man, what more do you want.

6,014,456 grunts killed.
1,347,450 Titans called.
18,324,506 frames dropped.

 

[d9b]

Where are those insiders? Please let us know the hard data.

You cant handle the hard data!!!

 

[Jack cw]

He's talking about chartzzz, aka out of his ass. Let's not go down that road.

To fair and correct, their estiamtes in the last few months were pretty much spot on. But, unless we have hard data, its only guesses and estimates.

 

[FritoBandito]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...oosts-xbox-one-sales-by-96-per-cent-in-the-uk


Not as big a bump as I thought.

Math? Math.

 

[TheLaw]

That's awesome, should be more than doubled in US then.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

You can really see how enthusiastic people are about this platform can't you ?

 

[ron_bato]

96% Xbox One week-week sales increase means nothing;
20% deserting out of a less than 2000 people survey means a lot.

Totally understood...

The 96% bump does mean something, we just don't know how significant it is. Perhaps it sold way less the week before in anticipation of the titanfall uk bundle the week after that everybody knew was coming (Was the titanfall bundle only available only on march 11?). Without a base, we don't really know how meaningful a 96% increase is week-on-week.

It's a survey. The sample size is adequate, assuming they did everything correctly in choosing the sample. For example, the labor force survey in the philippines consists of 38,000 people which is representative up to a regional level with a population of 90 million.

 

[Steroyd]

Because when you reach near a monopoly companies start taking liberties. e.g coke is very rarely offered by franchise restaurants (it's almost always pepsi) despite them carrying their other products. Why? because it's too damn expensive.

That's the sort of complaency their talking about.

They want more profit that doesn't necessarily mean selling more

The ironic thing is that MS who sold the "least" number of units at 80 million actually tried to pull that off, so if anything there is more of a case for MS to go back to selling closer to original Xbox numbers moreso than reaching the heights of the Xbox 360.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

Again, you are missing the details. One very big one is that this is the UK and not the US, with weekly February sales in the UK bearing no relevance to weekly February sales in the US.

Also, unless the Xbone had a price-cut in the US the week before this sales boost or whatever it was, comparisons would obviously be off. And there was no price-cut in the US.

US and UK markets are the closest in terms of sales trends. This is extremely relevant. A 120K debut weekend in the UK points to 750K+ month in the US NPD.

To fair and correct, their estiamtes in the last few months were pretty much spot on. But, unless we have hard data, its only guesses and estimates.

No.

 

[Principate]

One week of sales increasing from, say, 10,000 to almost 20,000 is hardly a game changer. If it ends up being a permanent increase and is a launch pad for better sales, then in retrospect it will mean a lot. It's like if Nintendo said a game cause week to week sales to double: While good, they are still at a disadvantage and it probably won't last. A 1,700 person poll is larger than most Presidential Candidate polls and is a very statistically significant poll. Not the end all, but it is significant. I understand the rhetoric seems to get a bit much, but there is some truth to it.

You misunderstood the purpose of statistics you believe the number being larger than another is important.

Both sample sizes are comparatively white noise in comparison to the target data. What makes them important is the representation of the sample sizes, in comparison to the target data.

That's why a sample size of 1000 can be used to get rough representation of the trends of millions.

 

[Nightengale]

To fair and correct, their estiamtes in the last few months were pretty much spot on. But, unless we have hard data, its only guesses and estimates.

A lot of their estimates are 'recalculated' after actual sales figures come out and shame their original estimates.

They completely got Feb NPD wrong, significantly for both Sony and Microsoft.

 

[zip stick]

"If theres 100 million priests in the world, and 10% of them are paedophiles, thats still only 10 million." - Father Ted

 

[SEGAvangelist]

US and UK markets are the closest in terms of sales trends. This is extremely relevant. A 120K debut weekend in the UK points to 750K+ month in the US NPD.

No price cut in NA, though.

 

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

That's good and all but what is a percentage without numbers?

 

[IncandescentPrecept]

% means nothing without context.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

No price cut in NA, though.

MS probably believed they didn't need it, sales here were neck and neck in February.

 

[stryke]

No price cut in NA, though.

It's somewhat an effective price cut isn't it? Isn't Titanfall bundled for free?

 

[Jack cw]

A lot of their estimates are 'recalculated' after actual sales figures come out and shame their original estimates.

They completely got Feb NPD wrong, significantly for both Sony and Microsoft.

I'm pretty sure anybody got the Feb NPD wrong. We all know how chartz work, but they were able to predict pretty realistic numbers that mostly turned out to be not far away from reality in the last weeks. I'm not saying they are reliable, but to completely discredit them, when they were right from time to time, isnt correct either.

 

[LunaticHigh]

It's a decent boost, but the console had basically been forgotten up until it's release. what's the number? We need to know. are we sure of 125k~? That seems pretty good no?

 

[Nightengale]

No price cut in NA, though.

Not officially, but the Titanfall bundle works as one.

 

[travisbickle]

US and UK markets are the closest in terms of sales trends. This is extremely relevant. A 120K debut weekend in the UK points to 750K+ month in the US NPD.

Might want to add "sarcasm" to this or people will think you believe it.