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[Principate]

The usual apology I read here at GAF was "They wait a week before releasing data". I dont know if thats a good sign though.

For a total user base of 3 million on XB1 it was never going to sell gangbusters day one unless pc seriously picked up the slack. At least in comparison to highs of other major franchises. They'll probably want to wait until the 360 release to say anything concrete.

 

[benny_a]

For a total user base of 3 million on XB1 it was never going to sell gangbusters day one unless pc seriously picked up the slack. At least in comparison to highs of other major franchises. They'll probably want to wait until the 360 release to say anything concrete.

Xbone user base is at least 3.5 million at this point, and that's assuming it hasn't sold outside the US for awhile now.

Edit: vv I have no clue what that is supposed to mean and what I'm supposed to say. vv

 

[Raist]

Xbone user base is at least 3.5 million at this point, and that's assuming it hasn't sold outside the US for awhile now.

Wut?

 

[Boogdud]

They'll probably want to wait until the 360 release to say anything concrete.

Which is pretty ironic, seeing as how according to all the marketing and hype for titanfall pre-release you'd never even know there was a 360 version at all.

 

[DrkSage]

Wasn't enough in case of BF4. Xbox One userbase is the smallest of all platforms http://bf4stats.com

There's other factors like brand association and heavy PR talk like "Titanfall will be better on Xbox one thanks to the cloud"

So if we dump in a pot timed dlc exclusivity, brand association and heavy pr talk about why the game will be better on their platform, you'll get a bigger user install base on Xbox one

 

[ultratruman]

You'd have thought that with all the stories of the Wii U's sales, more of you guys would've been wary of percentages in PR statements.

This is comparing week for week sales. It's true; telling everyone that next week you're going to drop the price, include a copy of Titanfall and throw in a copy of Battlefield 4 or FIFA 14 for £20 will pretty much guarantee that your sales will be a lot stronger.

From my anecdotal experience, sales have increased, but not nearly as much as anyone was expecting. We ordered way too much Titanfall copies, consoles and swag at my store that we're having to discount it by 10% just to move stock.

 

[Yaoibot]

Meaningless without context. If the numbers for the game and X1 units sold were high enough to warrant touting, they would do so - unabashedly. MS are hardly subtle when it comes to self-promotion.

If Wed rolls around and all were getting are percentages and number of Titans dropped PR then there might be cause for concern. Wii U had massive boots in the UK too when some of its bigger games dropped. And that amounted to nothing.

 

[Renekton]

Microsoft will pull a CoD with the next Titanfall.
It won't matter if TF2 runs at 60fps@1080p on ps4 and 60fps@900p on XB1. Microsoft will buy timed exclusivity for DLC and that's enough excuse for people to get the game on that console.

If it sells enough, Microsoft might make TF2 exclusive to X1, not even PC.

 

[TechnicPuppet]

For a total user base of 3 million on XB1 it was never going to sell gangbusters day one unless pc seriously picked up the slack. At least in comparison to highs of other major franchises. They'll probably want to wait until the 360 release to say anything concrete.

What is your definition of selling gangbusters? How much would it have to have sold in the UK in 3 days not including those who bought it digitally on the store?

 

[crazygambit]

Wow, im amazed!

Hahaha...what?!

Biggest debut of the year by over 2x. What else has debuted this year? Thief, TR and what else?

There's no way you can't beat those with the biggest release of the year.

 

[Principate]

Xbone user base is at least 3.5 million at this point, and that's assuming it hasn't sold outside the US for awhile now.

That's not the important point.... the point is that'd require a ridiculous attach rate for them to be able brag about release numbers.

 

[beast786]

No sales number eh,

I wonder why?

 

[borius]

well the expected, if Xbox One want to compete with Ps4 it must have lots of great exclusives.

 

[CaptainTiptop]

If it sells enough, Microsoft might make TF2 exclusive to X1, not even PC.

I doubt it. EA will go where the money is, and that's fully multiplatform. Can't chase the COD dream on just one console.

 

[N30RYU]

This info is PR bullshit, if they don't tell the sales from the previous week in UK is useless..

 

[Phatosaurus]

That's not surprising, XB1 + Titanfall has been going for as low as £370 on some sites.

 

[DBT85]

If it sells enough, Microsoft might make TF2 exclusive to X1, not even PC.

Microsoft might ask EA to make TF2 exclusive.

 

[a916]

That's good news, it would be good if all consoles were selling healthy numbers.

I doubt it. EA will go where the money is, and that's fully multiplatform. Can't chase the COD dream on just one console.

That's to say if MS doesn't back up the brinks truck.

 

[Principate]

What is your definition of selling gangbusters? How much would it have to have sold in the UK in 3 days not including those who bought it digitally on the store?

A few in uk several hundreds of thousands. You rarely see companies brag day one or release in just the uk and that's on an install base of millions.

 

[Jack cw]

Since when? Because they didn't even wait for the end of XB1 launch day to claim "1M sold, every retailer sold-out" left and right.

The game did only release on Friday in some markets, they don't usually release PR statements on a weekend. I assume they will be releasing numbers this week.

For a total user base of 3 million on XB1 it was never going to sell gangbusters day one unless pc seriously picked up the slack. At least in comparison to highs of other major franchises. They'll probably want to wait until the 360 release to say anything concrete.

Fair enough, but that is the point. This game was supposed to be the gamechanger and was heavily marketed through any possible channel and is praised by the media. Obviously Titanfall couldnt generate that money or units sold that Microsoft and EA were expecting in 24 or 48 hours (with xbone and PC), so relying on 360 to "correct" the sales target is telling. I hope we get a press release soon from Microsoft, saying that they surpassed the 1 million. New IP is fine and all, but the longer they wait with positive PR, the more it seems to have performed below expectations and ergo couldnt help the xbone.

 

[DrkSage]

If it sells enough, Microsoft might make TF2 exclusive to X1, not even PC.

Doubt it but not completely.

It may happen, but I don't think EA will let a user base like the ps4 go since the ps4 userbase seems its going to be the bigger one compared to the other consoles.

 

[Aretak]

If it sells enough, Microsoft might make TF2 exclusive to X1, not even PC.

I doubt Microsoft will be willing to pay what EA would want for that deal. They got this one because EA were clearly expecting the Xbone to trounce the PS4 in terms of sales (at least in the US). It'd take a lot more money for EA to forego releasing a potential sequel on the PS4 (and PC) now that things have panned out the way they have.

 

[FeiRR]

There's other factors like brand association and heavy PR talk like "Titanfall will be better on Xbox one thanks to the cloud"

So if we dump in a pot timed dlc exclusivity, brand association and heavy pr talk about why the game will be better on their platform, you'll get a bigger user install base on Xbox one

You originally said that DLC will be enough of an excuse. Now you're making much more sense.

 

[Darksol]

The very fact they are quoting percentages and not real figures says it all.

Pretty much.

This is a change of 96% from the week before, and they quote no hard numbers. And we already know that it wasn't moving gangbusters in the UK after the initial launch anyways. This is PR made to sound more impressive than it actually is.

I am looking forward to some hard data eventually.

 

[level44]

96% of what though?

That is the golden question. Why have they not given an actual number? Something doesn't seem right here.

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

If it sells enough, Microsoft might make TF2 exclusive to X1, not even PC.

Not really up to them and based on wannabe-Mentalist capabilities, the creator of Titanfall wants his baby to be in as many game machines as possible.

 

[TechnicPuppet]

A few in uk several hundreds of thousands. You rarely see companies brag day one or release in just the uk and that's on an install base of millions.

So more that the install base for the XB1? Or roughly same?

 

[TechnicPuppet]

Pretty much.

This is a change of 96% from the week before, and they quote no hard numbers. And we already know that it wasn't moving gangbusters in the UK after the initial launch anyways. This is PR made to sound more impressive than it actually is.

I am looking forward to some hard data eventually.

This info is PR bullshit, if they don't tell the sales from the previous week in UK is useless..

This isn't PR.

Edit: Sorry double post

 

[reptilescorpio]

Microsoft might ask EA to make TF2 exclusive.

Titanfall is a one and done deal with EA though isn't it?
Respawn will make the decision on platforms for T2. They have already noted their desire to be on all current gen platforms.

 

[DrkSage]

You originally said that DLC will be enough of an excuse. Now you're making much more sense.

Sorry forgot to add the *

 

[Principate]

Fair enough, but that is the point. This game was supposed to be the gamechanger and was heavily marketed through any possible channel and is praised by the media. Obviously Titanfall couldnt generate that money or units sold that Microsoft and EA were expecting in 24 or 48 hours (with xbone and PC), so relying on 360 to "correct" the sales target is telling. I hope we get a press release soon from Microsoft, saying that they surpassed the 1 million. New IP is fine and all, but the longer they wait with positive PR, the more it seems to have performed below expectations and ergo couldnt help the xbone.

The strength of the game or what ever strength it'd have was always going to be long term, whether it fades into mediocre numbers or consistently puts up good numbers. It's a new IP mostly targeted towards a new console. Word of mouth and the translation of the word of mouth would always be the biggest maker/killer. Even if it did comparatively amazing it's kinda worthless for all involved if it has no legs.

 

[hooijdonk17]

96% more of a poor number is probably still a poor number.. Lack of nominal figures kind of proves my suspicion.

 

[spwolf]

That's not surprising, XB1 + Titanfall has been going for as low as £370 on some sites.

people need to understand that XB1 got price drop in UK, not just bundle... it was 429 GBP before this, without any game.

 

[Principate]

So more that the install base for the XB1? Or roughly same?

Around the same probably honestly. 200k is the minimum for impressive numbers in almost any context not considered fairly niche.

 

[FiggyCal]

As far as percentage increases go, 96% isn't that big a number.

 

[zhao3gold]

Xbox One is doomed. Titanfall is doomed...

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

So what was the basis 96% is based off on

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Well deserved the game is excellent.

 

[Stare-Bear]

So, it sold 96% better then a week in which everybody knew that the TF bundle was coming and would be cheaper.

 

[Aika'svyse]

I feel not enough information to be negative, whilst any increase is beneficial to long term prospects

 

[Principate]

As far as percentage increases go, 96% isn't that big a number.

It's pretty significant, the issue is the base number, I doubt many would say in itself almost doubling the initial is bad

 

[JayKay1337]

Well deserved , Respawn created an awesome game
This exclusive deal was Microsoft´s step back into the game and I think they won´t give this charm away

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

So, it sold 96% better then a week in which everybody knew that the TF bundle was coming and would be cheaper.

The interesting note was the Tf bundle accounted for 70% of HW sales for the week. That seems lower then I would have thought.

 

[Darksol]

This isn't PR.

Edit: Sorry double post

It's spinning. I didn't literally mean it came from the mouth of Microsoft. Percentages with no hard numbers to provide context, is pretty meaningless. Either tell us the numbers, or tell us what they did last week so we can figure out the numbers for ourselves.

 

[knitoe]

Anytime anyone uses % instead of actual numbers, it's probably not a very good number.

 

[N30RYU]

96% boost of nothing...

So they better say numbers first, then per cents.

 

[Megatron]

What week did the xb1 price cut take place there? Do we know how it affected sales?

 

[Principate]

It's spinning. I didn't literally mean it came from the mouth of Microsoft. Percentages with no hard numbers to provide context, is pretty meaningless. Either tell us the numbers, or tell us what they did last week so we can figure out the numbers for ourselves.

Chart track rarely provides numbers (as in almost never) that's why they're giving you percentages which is what they do with almost everything.

 

[FiggyCal]

It's pretty significant, the issue is the base number, I doubt many would say in itself almost doubling the initial is bad

It's not bad, but it doesn't sound very impressive.

 

[TechnicPuppet]

It's spinning. I didn't literally mean it came from the mouth of Microsoft. Percentages with no hard numbers to provide context, is pretty meaningless. Either tell us the numbers, or tell us what they did last week so we can figure out the numbers for ourselves.

They never reveal numbers.